Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

05-10-2014 02:57PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

In retrospect, what did we really expect given the number of new faces that have come into the team.

We have been quite unlucky with injuries tbf, especially to Sturridge.

joe123 · 05-10-2014 03:02PM

The signing of two world class players in Fabregas and Costa show that sometimes investing big into two players of that standard work and was something I thought/hoped we would do this season.

I know other factors are involved with wages, desire to come and that we had to strengthen the squad etc etc but still, when people give out about just going for proven talent just point them towards those too.

Transformed Chelsea this year.

jesus_thats_gre · 05-10-2014 03:02PM

8-10 wrote: »

To be better defensively even if we're not scoring as many goals

That is true of course. I was mainly thinking in the context of us as an attacking threat.

The defensive issues are a long standing concern.

8-10 · 05-10-2014 03:04PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

That is true of course. I was mainly thinking in the context of us as an attacking threat.

The defensive issues are a long standing concern.

To me that was the genuine expectation though. We didn't expect to be scoring 100 goals again so focus on not conceding 50 again. I expected the attack to be worse but expected more of the defence than what I've seen so far.

Fescue · 05-10-2014 03:09PM

joe123 wrote: »

The signing of two world class players in Fabregas and Costa show that sometimes investing big into two players of that standard work and was something I thought/hoped we would do this season.

I know other factors are involved with wages, desire to come and that we had to strengthen the squad etc etc but still, when people give out about just going for proven talent just point them towards those too.

Transformed Chelsea this year.

I would hope that now we have a decent sized squad, the next number of windows will be about bringing in one or two top notch players.

I will despair if we are bringing in 5/6 young players every window.

joe123 · 05-10-2014 03:29PM

Fescue wrote: »

I would hope that now we have a decent sized squad, the next number of windows will be about bringing in one or two top notch players.

I will despair if we are bringing in 5/6 young players every window.

Going to be hard if we dont make Champions League. Serious battle on our hands.

mosstin · 05-10-2014 03:45PM

joe123 wrote: »

The signing of two world class players in Fabregas and Costa show that sometimes investing big into two players of that standard work and was something I thought/hoped we would do this season.

I know other factors are involved with wages, desire to come and that we had to strengthen the squad etc etc but still, when people give out about just going for proven talent just point them towards those too.

Transformed Chelsea this year.

Thing is though that neither Fabregas or Costa would have come here. Chelsea are guaranteed CL football every year and are certs for a PL tilt. We have spent a lot of money on potential - too early to write anyone off yet - but it's left us further behind this season.

Augmerson · 05-10-2014 03:48PM

mosstin wrote: »

Thing is though that neither Fabregas or Costa would have come here. Chelsea are guaranteed CL football every year and are certs for a PL tilt. We have spent a lot of money on potential - too early to write anyone off yet - but it's left us further behind this season.

Weren't we trying to sign Costa a year or two ago?

Fuhrer · 05-10-2014 03:57PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Weren't we trying to sign Costa a year or two ago?

A year or two ago Costa wasnt really thought of as being that good.

05-10-2014 04:04PM

We have gone through a poor spell, its coincided with the start if the season, compounded or caused by injuries, Liverpool aren't in a bad position regarding challenging for top 4.

Bowlardo · 05-10-2014 04:05PM

We just need to get everyone fit and win our next three games which we should do if we have our best 11 out.
Get something against chelsea at home and
Johnson (for all the giving out about him me included) might bring a bit of calmness and much need experience to that back line.

Qpr up next.

johnson Skrtel Lvren Moreno
Gerard
HendersonLalanna Coutinho
Sterling Ballotelli

Bring Sturride on with 30 minutes to go.

05-10-2014 04:06PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

A year or two ago Costa wasnt really thought of as being that good.

By fans of the premiership??

punk_one82 · 05-10-2014 04:20PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

A year or two ago Costa wasnt really thought of as being that good.

Yes he was.

Fuhrer · 05-10-2014 04:54PM

punk_one82 wrote: »

Yes he was.

Last season was the first time he scored more then 10 games in a league season

mosstin · 05-10-2014 05:09PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Weren't we trying to sign Costa a year or two ago?

Did he come?

Augmerson · 05-10-2014 05:15PM

mosstin wrote: »

Did he come?

Well obviously he didn't? The thing is we did try and our scouts or Rodgers saw the ability that Costa had.

I get your point and I know that neither of those players who went to Chelsea would come to Liverpool (at least until we establish ourselves in the CL) but I just wanted to say we did try to get him before he reached the level he is at now.

We have spent a lot of money on potential as you mentioned and I think that's the right approach for the club right now.

punk_one82 · 05-10-2014 05:32PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Last season was the first time he scored more then 10 games in a league season

Coincidentally it was also the first time he was the attacking focus of the team he was playing for. You can't just use goalscoring stats to suggest he wasn't highly thought of. He was playing with Falcao.

mosstin · 05-10-2014 06:01PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Well obviously he didn't? The thing is we did try and our scouts or Rodgers saw the ability that Costa had.

I get your point and I know that neither of those players who went to Chelsea would come to Liverpool (at least until we establish ourselves in the CL) but I just wanted to say we did try to get him before he reached the level he is at now.

We have spent a lot of money on potential as you mentioned and I think that's the right approach for the club right now.

I think we need to be bolder or risk being left behind. Sanchez - who we were in for - would have been a superb acquisition. Markovic was a puzzling signing given that he plays in a position that didn't seem to need urgent reinforcement.
It remains to be seen how the players we signed this summer pan out - and it is definitely too early to make any calls - but you pay for proven quality and you improve.

05-10-2014 06:04PM

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Gbear · 05-10-2014 06:40PM

joe123 wrote: »

The signing of two world class players in Fabregas and Costa show that sometimes investing big into two players of that standard work and was something I thought/hoped we would do this season.

I know other factors are involved with wages, desire to come and that we had to strengthen the squad etc etc but still, when people give out about just going for proven talent just point them towards those too.

Transformed Chelsea this year.

Completely different situations though.

Chelsea had a squad already. They didn't need bodies. And they have about 38 pretty high calibre players on loan as well. They rather circuitously bought themselves into a stable position from where they could make a serious assault on the top level trophies. A couple of top class additions were what they needed to bring their first 11 up to snuff.

We weren't in a position to be sign 2 or 3 players this summer. As it stands we've struggled with injuries. If we had 2 or 3 fewer players we'd have been utterly ****ed and would continue to be ****ed for the whole season unless we had a miraculously lucky injury record.

DVDM93 · 05-10-2014 06:42PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

35 days a Munich player.
5 MotM's.
2 Bundes Liga records broken.
Most passes, touches and distance covered.
Xabi Alonso.

Harry Palmr · 05-10-2014 06:50PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

35 days a Munich player.
5 MotM's.
2 Bundes Liga records broken.
Most passes, touches and distance covered.
Xabi Alonso.

and proud father to Alberto Moreno

DVDM93 · 05-10-2014 06:57PM

Oh, and he's still at this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQw0Nhba7nY

5starpool · 05-10-2014 06:57PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

35 days a Munich player.
5 MotM's.
2 Bundes Liga records broken.
Most passes, touches and distance covered.
Xabi Alonso.

He was too old for us and not what we needed though, or so half this thread believed. I'd have loved Xabi back.

Harry Palmr · 05-10-2014 07:02PM

5starpool wrote: »

He was too old for us and not what we needed though, or so half this thread believed. I'd have loved Xabi back.

I dunno how Bayern are playing this season (they have got over a sticky start) but I do know how Gerrard has been and yes Alonso would be a serious upgrade as the "controller" as I believe this role is now to be described as.

YouTookMyName · 05-10-2014 07:02PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

and proud father to Alberto Moreno

Mammy Xabi.

DVDM93 · 05-10-2014 07:03PM

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Mammy Xabi.

I still would.

Knex* · 05-10-2014 07:12PM

196 passes in one game. I can't even comprehend that.

The guy has still got it.

Vicxas · 05-10-2014 07:19PM

Knex. wrote: »

196 passes in one game. I can't even comprehend that.

The guy has still got it.

He's such a legend.

Fuhrer · 05-10-2014 07:22PM

punk_one82 wrote: »

Coincidentally it was also the first time he was the attacking focus of the team he was playing for. You can't just use goalscoring stats to suggest he wasn't highly thought of. He was playing with Falcao.

You cant use goal scored as a stat for a striker?

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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