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Oil price is at 2.5 year low but Petrol stays the highest in price

  • 04-10-2014 08:47PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭


    Someone must answer this, whenever Oil goes up in price in gas station goes up next day but now we have oil prices lowest in 2 years but prices one of the highest the ever been. What company is importing fuel into Ireland? is there any government agency who controls fuel prices? Its ridiculous. someone packeting huge money out of this, we cant be quiet over this. Considering decline in oil price, petrol prices should be in low 1.40 but not in mid 1.50.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭Ken Tucky


    Dont forget the Greens goddamn carbon tax of 7-8 cents a litre is still on our fuels costs at the pump. Another crap idea that should be binned but wont.
    Goverment love higher prices on the pumps. Probably have the forecourts warned not to drop prices too much.
    Tis a joke alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,041 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Well if I remember right, 2 years ago petrol was nearly 1.70.
    Now is just over 1.50 - so there is a difference.

    Remember that excise on fuels was increased few times since then afair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Euro is very weak against the dollar now too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,426 ✭✭✭testicle


    darka78 wrote: »
    Someone must answer this, whenever Oil goes up in price in gas station goes up next day but now we have oil prices lowest in 2 years but prices one of the highest the ever been. What company is importing fuel into Ireland? is there any government agency who controls fuel prices? Its ridiculous. someone packeting huge money out of this, we cant be quiet over this. Considering decline in oil price, petrol prices should be in low 1.40 but not in mid 1.50.

    I bought petrol for 147.8 today...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    CiniO wrote: »
    Well if I remember right, 2 years ago petrol was nearly 1.70.
    Now is just over 1.50 - so there is a difference.

    Remember that excise on fuels was increased few times since then afair.

    Where were you paying €1.70 a litre 2 years ago.??
    There must have been a very large window in the shop, ie they saw you coming.!!
    Anyway, that aside, the reason that prices are remaining high is because we live in a banana republic.:mad:
    Anybody that has been reading newspapers especially over the last 2 weeks will agree with this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain


    Euro is very weak against the dollar now too.

    This. The price is not necessarily at 2.5 year low in Euros.
    http://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/video-weakened-euro-negates-fall-in-price-of-crude-oil-30635825.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    Barrel price isn't the same as wholesale price either. I'd be willing to guess a chunk of this is the oil companies banking cash now while they can, given the fact that supplies are going to start running out soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    My local Topaz are 1.39 for diesel and 1.46 for petrol today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Lot of reasons being given for the price not falling much, but I would agree with the OP that the price ALWAYS rises as soon as the barrel prices goes up the slightest bit, irrespective of exchange rates etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,041 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    washman3 wrote: »
    Where were you paying €1.70 a litre 2 years ago.??
    I can tell you exactly, as I keep note of every fillup in excel sheet.
    In my local Topaz petrol station in Mayo on 5/09/2012 I paid 1.699 per litre of petrol. Same price on 16/09/2012.

    Bit earlier on 9/05/2012 cost was 1.689 per litre. In the mean time was lower. In July about 1.55 while in August about 1.65, to peak again in September as above. Down to 1.55 by November.

    There must have been a very large window in the shop, ie they saw you coming.!!
    Well maybe there was... Maybe I just got screwed up - not anyone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    CiniO wrote: »
    I can tell you exactly, as I keep note of every fillup in excel sheet.
    In my local Topaz petrol station in Mayo on 5/09/2012 I paid 1.699 per litre of petrol. Same price on 16/09/2012.

    Bit earlier on 9/05/2012 cost was 1.689 per litre. In the mean time was lower. In July about 1.55 while in August about 1.65, to peak again in September as above. Down to 1.55 by November.



    Well maybe there was... Maybe I just got screwed up - not anyone else.

    That's fair enough, you have the figures to prove it.
    Just that I cant remember paying anything near that, probably due to the fact I live in Limerick where there are a few big petrol depots thus creating a 'price war' therefore reducing prices.
    The 'big window' was just a joke, no offence meant.

    Did Conor Faughan say on SIX-ONE news yesterday that the Gubbermint now have almost €1 from every litre sold.??
    And we supposedly live in a low tax economy.!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭pippip


    I think i remember hearing before that the change in price of oil takes a few months (6ish) to filter down to the pumps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    pippip wrote: »
    I think i remember hearing before that the change in price of oil takes a few months (6ish) to filter down to the pumps.

    But only takes days to go the other way when there's the least hint of trouble in any oil supplying country...:confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭pippip


    washman3 wrote: »
    But only takes days to go the other way when there's the least hint of trouble in any oil supplying country...:confused::confused:

    Sort of understandable. One is a immediate confirmed problem at the source. The other is a potential good news that if it holds for a time confirms lower prices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭visual


    pippip wrote: »
    Sort of understandable. One is a immediate confirmed problem at the source. The other is a potential good news that if it holds for a time confirms lower prices.

    Its called profiteering


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭derry


    Expect oil prices to drop based on the massive new finds of oil they found except.... WAR....WAR makes fuel prices jump and the ISIS war the EU and USA government sponsored are there to make wars in the oil regions to make prices in crease >All that beheading stuff is just to ramp up the war story so we believe the CR@p that oil prices must increase .

    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    As long as the greens/government keep forgetting LPG which only has a 10c/litre duty which makes it only 80.9c/litre locally, I'm very happy......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    The government are not really to blame for this either: prices are as high if not higher in other European countries nowadays. I was in England last week where I paid 1.40 gbp per litre for fuel which works out about €1.79. We're not doing that badly here overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The Gov get the usual amount of grief from the moaners who moan about everything, but if they have the fuel prices so high in Ireland, why are the petrol stations on the border with NI packed full of NI drivers coming to fill up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭pippip


    Because our gov are ever so slightly less greedy than the rest at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,041 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Chimaera wrote: »
    The government are not really to blame for this either: prices are as high if not higher in other European countries nowadays. I was in England last week where I paid 1.40 gbp per litre for fuel which works out about €1.79. We're not doing that badly here overall.

    Here's the list of current prices in other countries (mostly Europe) sorted by petrol price.
    http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/index.php?sort=3

    13 countries in Europe with more expensive petrol than in Ireland (out of which 10 in the EU).

    29 countries in Europe with cheaper petrol than in Ireland (out of which 17 in the EU).

    I think though few small countries were ommited on the list.

    Anyway - we score fairly high.

    What I'm surprised though is that Poland seems to be EU country with cheapest Petrol, Diesel and LPG in the EU. Must be temporary tendency as this was never really the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Looks like this thread has now become a party political broadcast on behalf of FG/LAB with the amount of apologists that have come on board...;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Lurching


    While Ireland may not have the most expensive fuel in Europe, I would like to see a comparison done with overall cost of motoring compared to average incomes across Europe.
    Eg. VW Golf new price, yearly motor taxes and fuel costs for 10k / yr over 5 years.

    While the UK have a higher rate per litre on fuel, I'd wager that they pay less for the car in the first place and pay less motor tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    CiniO wrote: »
    Here's the list of current prices in other countries (mostly Europe) sorted by petrol price.
    http://www.spainatcasa.com/210-large/estrella-galicia-beer-33-cl.jpg

    ..

    How do you convert the engine to run on that?


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rip off Galway still charging 1.54 at best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    On the oilmarketreport website there are a few graphs that show how much oil/diesel/petrol we use and it shows that we are using a lot more than in 2012. I think its about 10k barrels per day more??
    Thats a large tax increase right there without any price rises.
    Bondholders have to be paid i suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭BMJD


    Chimaera wrote: »
    The government are not really to blame for this either: prices are as high if not higher in other European countries nowadays. I was in England last week where I paid 1.40 gbp per litre for fuel which works out about €1.79. We're not doing that badly here overall.

    how is their VAT, VRT, road/motortax, tolls, etc., etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭Chimaera


    BMJD wrote: »
    how is their VAT, VRT, road/motortax, tolls, etc., etc?

    In a discussion of the oil price market those are not really relevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    Short answer is petrol stations are simply gouging us and price per litre never drops in accordance to $ value of crude oil. on the other hand always jumps quickly when price of crude oil increases.

    These are businesses at the end of the day and the nr1 objective of any business is?... Yes, to maximize profits!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,786 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-27/rosneft-says-exxon-arctic-well-strikes-oil.html
    Chimaera wrote: »
    Barrel price isn't the same as wholesale price either. I'd be willing to guess a chunk of this is the oil companies banking cash now while they can, given the fact that supplies are going to start running out soon.

    That's what we are being led to believe alright, however I seen there was a multi billion barrel strike in Antarctica recently. Can't link at the min, but it was on blmbg during the week.


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