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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,796 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Really don't think dropping points this weekend is an option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Had a dream we were two nil up after 26 mins.

    Markovic on the score sheet. You heard it here first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    Rodgers is talking a lot about the technical level of the team not being at the level of last year. What I am coming to realise is that the foundation of the team was built on the individual brilliance of Suarez and Sturridge. Lest we forget we were a shambles defensively most of last year also. We didn't control games. We are operating at the exact same technical level minus the extraordinary talents of Suarez and Sturridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Really don't think dropping points this weekend is an option.

    Think somebody should inform the players that they should try and win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    Knex. wrote: »
    Think somebody should inform the players that they should try and win.

    Maybe we could get a petition going?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Rodgers being honest. What a bast*rd.

    We moan whinge and complain for years that the owners, management, club are not speaking truthfully to the supporters. When this happens it appears that we are moaning, whiging and complaining about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭hadoken13


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Rodgers being honest. What a bast*rd.

    We moan whinge and complain for years that the owners, management, club are not speaking truthfully to the supporters. When this happens it appears that we are moaning, whiging and complaining about it.

    Ye but there is a difference he is speaking truthfully about the players but not his management this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,659 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Knex. wrote: »
    Think somebody should inform the players that they should try and win.

    Maybe we should hire a plane to fly over melwood and Anfield for the next couple of days.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    hadoken13 wrote: »
    Ye but there is a difference he is speaking truthfully about the players but not his management this season.

    I think he was asked about the signings in that interview, why would he talk about his management?

    And in fairness, he is being honest about that, he had no problems talking about the set piece problems post match.

    Admitedly, there is alot he cant say, but he is saying alot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    Its very simple for me, the buck stops with the manager. If he thinks its best to have a go about certain players & for it to be printed, fair enough. However, he must accept he sends the team out, picks players & set the game plan. It cannot just be the players fault for our start to the season.

    A simple thing why play Enrique on Wednesday night. Stick with Moreno & keep a consistency with your back four. Stevie Wonder can see playing Gerrard in a 2 man midfield even with a road runner like Henderson is risky. Play Lucas & 3 man midfield, its away in the Champions League so a defensive balance to the team is needed. Especially a team that doesnt keep clean sheets.

    Thats my 2 Cents, Happy Friday & Come on Redmen 2mo!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,024 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I think there's more to the story between Mario and Brendan. The comments just seem odd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    8-10 wrote: »
    I think there's more to the story between Mario and Brendan. The comments just seem odd

    When he first came to Liverpool, I remember thinking that Rodgers comments weren't that effusive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    Anyone know much about Dele Alli?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    Anyone know much about Dele Alli?

    Is that the Pakistani sandwich place on Dame Street? I've heard good things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    I knew I wasn't going mad, Andy Hunter also pointed out that Coutinho blanked Rodgers when he was subbed on Wednesday. He also said that there were angry exchanges between them during the game.
    You'd say something about a player sulking when playing well and taken off - just having a bit of an attitude but Coutihno has been muck so far this season - well, well below par. Sounds like he needs a kick up the hole from the manager tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Ardent


    D'Agger wrote: »
    You'd say something about a player sulking when playing well and taken off - just having a bit of an attitude but Coutihno has been muck so far this season - well, well below par. Sounds like he needs a kick up the hole from the manager tbh

    Coutinho played well Wednesday. In contrast, Sterling and Markovic had shockers. I'd be pissed off at being substituted too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Ardent wrote: »
    Coutinho played well Wednesday. In contrast, Sterling and Markovic had shockers. I'd be pissed off at being substituted too!

    I like when a player shows this kind of reaction to getting substituted sometimes. It can show desire rather than petulance...I hope thats what it is. Suarez was the same too.....never wanted to come off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Everything is ok :)

    Liverpool AGREE £38m deal for Arsenal target Karim Benzema ;)

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/402884/Liverpool-AGREE-deal-for-Arsenal-target-Karim-Benzema

    For some reason I have never been particularly impressed by Benzema. We could do with him however as we are now almost solely relying on Sturridge to score goals and make the team work :o:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭brevity


    Perhaps Rodgers has tomfoolered us all by being the bad guy and getting us on Balotelli's side...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,234 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Hodgson getting criticism from other managers for showing preferential treatment to Liverpool for not picking Sturridge, ffs

    Can you play on Saturday but not turn up for the internationals?

    I thought there was something against that, or is it the game afterwards?

    If Hogson has allowed L'pool to simply decide not to send him then that is a very strange call. Though given the easy group the England have they can easily do without him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Dickerty


    Looking at Enrique's two games so far, and Moreno having been very impressive to date, I wouldn't be surprised to see Enrique as a LW in a few games, he is more direct and links better (as a wide player) than Coutinho or Sterling, who always want to get inside. For the Real games, would give us extra defensive support, and both he and Moreno are capable of getting outside the FB.

    That's my prediction!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    brevity wrote: »
    Perhaps Rodgers has tomfoolered us all by being the bad guy and getting us on Balotelli's side...

    I'm pretty sure he said a similar thing when we signed him. Dont see the big deal really. A quality player who needs to improve consistency and score goals is the essence of what he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    For some reason, people think last season makes him immune to criticism, which is bollix. He is not the messiah, he's a very good naughty manager.



    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Interesting comments by Rodgers but a little worrying for me.

    I don't think Ballotelli is the problem with the team as I don't think he's getting the service from the midfield.

    Yes, he maybe should move more to create spaces but I don't think he deserves such a public admonishing after a short time at the club.

    Defence need to sort themselves out and the teams attacking pace needs to pick up and that should create more opportunities for the strikers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    Ardent wrote: »
    Coutinho played well Wednesday. In contrast, Sterling and Markovic had shockers. I'd be pissed off at being substituted too!

    One decent outing out of how many thought? String some performances together like Sterling has and you'll get the benefit of the doubt that you can maybe produce something worth keeping you on the field.

    He's a professional footballer, you can be píssed off at being taken off, but showing emotion in the form of petulance isn't a sign of desire to me - it's a sign of not getting what you want and publicly showing it - when you're clearly in the public eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    I made a point last week about our coaching.

    When Rafa left he took the goal keeping coach with him. The new goal keeping coach that came in (after Hodgson's coach) played with Tranmere Rovers for 9 years.

    There is a parallel with this guys appointment and Reina's decline. Imagine you have played in the CL final. Won the FA Cup. Finished 2nd in the league. Been part of one of the greatest international football squads that won the European and World Cup.
    You turn up to work one day and you're told that a guy who has played with Tranmere Rovers for 9 years is now your coach. Fxxk that for a game of soldiers.

    This guy is still the coach in charge of making Mignolet a top keeper. FFS Liverpool, go out and get a top level coach.

    Also it was quite clear last year we were useless defensively. This year looks even worse! Did Rodgers and Clarke have a falling out in their time together at Chelsea or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    The frustration with Balotelli for me is the same frustration with Robbie Keane. They keep dropping back too deep to midfield so that when another midfield players get the ball and looks to play it in Balotelli/Keane are usually beside or behind them.

    There's no forward pass to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭Benzino


    dogbert27 wrote: »
    There is a parallel with this guys appointment and Reina's decline. Imagine you have played in the CL final. Won the FA Cup. Finished 2nd in the league. Been part of one of the greatest international football squads that won the European and World Cup.
    You turn up to work one day and you're told that a guy who has played with Tranmere Rovers for 9 years is now your coach. Fxxk that for a game of soldiers.

    This guy is still the coach in charge of making Mignolet a top keeper. FFS Liverpool, go out and get a top level coach.

    How does a coaches playing career indicate how good of a coach they are? By that logic, Mourinho would never be a good coach, or Rodgers, or Ferguson etc etc. His playing career has no bearing on his coaching ability.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    Anyone know much about Dele Alli?

    No but everyone is raving about him and I think he is the new English star youngster that LFC have targeted rather than Will Hughes. However I think Liverpool may already have Dele Alli in the shape of Sheyi Ojo 17 years old. I was an Ojo sceptic as I couldn't quite figure out his place or "style" but in the last year its started to become clear he has a lot to offer.

    Ojo v West Ham U21s - fantastico golas



    Alli highlights reel with sh'ite music.



    Obviously Alli plays at a higher level week in week out in the Championship but I'd not bet against Ojo doing similar stuff at a club like MK Dons next season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Rodgers being honest. What a bast*rd.

    We moan whinge and complain for years that the owners, management, club are not speaking truthfully to the supporters. When this happens it appears that we are moaning, whiging and complaining about it.

    Did he not say Gerrard was excellent on Wednesday night. Hes making Mario the scapegoat. The honest comments would have been:

    Gerrard in his current position is not working
    Skrtel was at fault for the goal
    Sterling and Markovic were awful
    I should have started Lallana

    Not Mario is what we scraped off the bottom of the barrel


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