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Black stereotypes

  • 02-10-2014 02:56AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie


    you know the ones....

    -black fathers don't support their children
    -they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
    -women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
    -they have trouble with the police

    point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    point is, are these humorous or racist?

    They are stupid and racist and not in the least bit funny. And they do promote hatred and intolerance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Can fences even be racialist?

    What?

    Pewpewpew!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    Shut it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Well all stereotypes are based on truth in some form. It's a stereotype Irish people drink a lot? why? Because loads of Irish people drink a lot. Yeah it's a cliche, doesn't make it 100% true for every Irish person though.
    Shockingly, some black people do like fried chicken, there's a Popeyes right near me that is testament to this (I love it too it's bloody deliclious and way nicer than KFC), and yes some black women can be loud an opinionated, seen it loads of times. Does mean it's true for every black person? nope, but you'd want to be a special type of offence seeker to say these things don't happen. They do. It's where the stereotype originated from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭Hold the Cheez Whiz


    This thread will end well.

    P.S. - Who doesn't like fried chicken?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Calm Down Brah


    This thread will end well.

    P.S. - Who doesn't like fried chicken?

    Vegetarians, I hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    you know the ones....

    -black fathers don't support their children
    -they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
    -women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
    -they have trouble with the police

    point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

    Those are pretty ignorant stereotypes and not harmless at all. Maybe they are funny if you are a bigot who likes to make fun of black people but other than that I fail to see the humour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    -black fathers don't support their children
    -they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
    -women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.

    I would be of the opinion that those stereotype relate to a general area of the southern states rather than blacks in particular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Calm Down Brah


    I would be of the opinion that those stereotype relate to a general area of the southern states rather than blacks in particular.

    That's a stereotype of a stereotype...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    The levels of faux outrage from people in this thread will be marvellous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie


    im far from a bigot, and I don't go around making any kind of jokes towards any race, I was raised better than that. Shame the stuck up PC brigade are out in force though...regardless of race it's important we all learn to laugh at ourselves, and dismiss stereotypes as just that...mere stereotypes unrelated to reality. Often you'll see the ones partaking in these memes and vines are black people THEMSELVES. And power to them. If you're ignorant enough to believe in these exaggerations then that's another story. I personally don't. I will admit some of it is annoying and clichéd/unoriginal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭brandnewaward


    its astounding in sydney the amount of people ask me ( out of ignorance , not badness) are us irish still blowing each other up.......funnily enough , its only asians that ask that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭marketty


    Black fellas have big mickeys.

    What a terrible prejudiced stereotype to have hanging over you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    its astounding in sydney the amount of people ask me ( out of ignorance , not badness) are us irish still blowing each other up.......funnily enough , its only asians that ask that
    they're just distracting you with silly questions while they try to steal your stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    Shame the stuck up PC brigade are out in force though..

    That's racist against the the PC brigade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    Irish stereotypes

    Stupid
    Drunks
    Always fighting
    Red headed
    Corrupt
    Mad
    Great Laugh( craic)
    Leprechauns
    Fiddlers
    Sad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    marketty wrote: »
    Black fellas have big mickeys.

    What a terrible prejudiced stereotype to have hanging over you.


    It isn't true anyways :cool::

    A 2006 study showed that the average Nigerian male was 5.1 inches or 13 cm, 2012 study showed that the average Tanzanian male was 4.5 inches or 11.5 cm, while another 2012 study showed that the average Caucasian British man’s penis was 5.6 inches or 14.3 cm.


    http://pag.aids2012.org/abstracts.aspx?aid=10259


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17191423


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21711435


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    "They love friend chicken"



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    you know the ones....

    -black fathers don't support their children
    -they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
    -women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
    -they have trouble with the police

    point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

    Stupid and doubly racist seeing as this is an exclusively African American stereotype you are using. Black people are across the globe you know....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Stupid and doubly racist seeing as this is an exclusively African American stereotype you are using. Black people are across the globe you know....

    Meh.... I don't think its racist, as it doesn't imply prejudice or hatred.

    Regarding African Americans, the list of stereotypes is pretty on the nose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I wish 70's jive talk would come back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Meh.... I don't think its racist, as it doesn't imply prejudice or hatred.

    Regarding African Americans, the list of stereotypes is pretty on the nose.

    "Black fathers don't support their children" is pretty fuccking nasty in fairness.

    I used to get a big kick out of racist jokes when I was younger, because I took them ironically, i.e "Oh jesus, that's awful, lol", "There are people who really believe this shhit!", but I don't find it funny any more, or even joke with my friends, just because of the sheer amount of (racist) dicckheads who tell these jokes unironically, and use them to actually be offensive. I suppose what I mean is I used to find them funny, and use them as a way to make fun of retarded stereotypes, in a "it's funny cos it's not true" way, but have encountered far too many who enjoy them "because it's true".

    Constantly hearing this nasty rubbish also definitely clouds your judgement in real life. So no, not really harmless on the whole, because most people have a hard time seperating the stereotypes from reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    "Black fathers don't support their children" is pretty fuccking nasty in fairness.

    It is, especially when used as a sweeping statement.

    It is pretty common though (or was when I was growing up).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    To be fair, if black people, the same as anyone else, don't want to have a stereotype used they should not promote it themselves.

    How many films/songs/TV/comedy shows etc have there been when the black actor/whatever uses the stereotype to promote themselves.

    I am an Irish man, I like to drink. I don't take offence when it is used a running gag. Why, we in Ireland promote this image as it is lazy humor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,931 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I'm not racist, I'm classist. To my mind, never attribute to race what can be attributed to socio economic background.

    When channel surfing and I come across that Detroit based Pawn shop reality show and they are dealing with another gobby black female or male, I don't think to myself, "Bloody gobby black women!" I think bloody gobby knacks. An aussie reality show with a drunken gobby aboriginal? I don't think, "Bloody gobby abo's". I think bloody gobby knacks. Of course there are historical reasons they ended up and are trapped in this socio economic pit and racism is one of the things that perpetuates it in the case of my two examples, but the fact remains that I no more want to interact with them than I would a gobby dublin knack. It has nothing to do with the colour of someones skin and everything to do with the way a person acts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    you know the ones....

    -black fathers don't support their children
    -they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
    -women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
    -they have trouble with the police

    point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

    Ummmm.... do you live in the US or Ireland? In Ireland there no very few black stereotypes. You post isn't very relevant to Ireland.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    *The sound of trumpets and horse hooves coming from a distance*

    It's the High Horse Brigade and the PC brigade all rolled into one!


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