Interesting Stuff Thread

recedite wrote: »

Also the relationship between the RCC and the Nazis was reasonably stable, at least until the German occupation of Italy. You are overplaying the antipathy between them. While Mussolini was in power in Italy, the RCC were doing quite well. Pope Pius was wary of the Nazis growing power, but only because it threatened to impinge on his own influence. Both competed with each other as purveyors of their own all encompassing doctrine. Inevitably they would have clashed eventually, which was always in the back of their minds. For the actual duration of the war though, they had come to "an arrangement".

Oh, no. Mitt Brennender Sorge was issued in 1937, six years before the occupation of Italy, at at least by then the mutual loathing of the church and the Nazis was clear. Hitler despised the Catholic church but was afraid to take it on for fear of the domestic instability that would cause. The church, and in particular the papacy, loathed the Nazis but were afraid to take them on too explicitly, for fear of what that would expose the church in Germany to. I suppose that's a kind of stability, but its stretching a point to say that Hitler didn't consider a catholic ethos a problem. He considered it a huge problem; it was fundamentally antithetical to National Socialism, in his view, and at some point it was going to have to be dealt with. It would have been a significant black mark against A na hA, but as pointed out their general lunacy was an even more signficant black mark.

Jesus - that looks toasty warm!

Bible-pushing Christians open the door for Satanic activity books in Florida schools http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/bible-pushing-christians-open-the-door-for-satanic-activity-books-in-florida-schools

Just a note on one of our other regular interests: http://www.independent.ie/

An impressive nine million milk chocolate digestives were sold in the past five weeks alone, according to Aisling Pearce of Tesco Ireland.

The original McVities version first made its appearance in 1925, and it is estimated that approximately 52 biscuits are consumed every second in the United Kingdom alone.

It seems we are a nation of sweet-toothed chocolate fiends, as chocolate chip cookies and OREOs came in second and third place.

As traditional biscuits such as McVities plain digestives and Rich Tea also made up the top five, the study proved that we haven’t turned our backs on the classics just yet.

I love the igs.

I've searched and searched on boards but there seems to be some sort of blackout as if the abortion rights march today didn't happen, how is that?

I was there with my wife, we hope our daughter can grow up in a more enlightened and humane society than exists today.

I got SO many ideas for good placards today, for if we have to march again. Who am I kidding. WHEN we have to march again. Our politicians are utterly spineless.

So, so angry at the dreadfully biased RTE news report. Parroted uncritically the government line, minimised the numbers attending and then for no reason whatsoever gave Cora Sherlock an uncritical platform to spout her sh**e.

Screw marching at Leinster House, the next march should be lobbing bricks through the smug plate glass windows of Montrose.

CramCycle wrote: »

Maybe we watched different coverage but I thought it was very well covered.

Just annoying that the likes of Sherlock/Iona etc. who represent almost nobody are given such a platform on RTE. They would claim it's 'balance' but a factual report of an event doesn't require 'balance'. I don't recall IFPA or abortion rights campaign being given a spake after the so-called 'pro-life' rally. They don't report on the Ryder Cup and then give somebody who hates golf an interview for 'balance'!

They said 2500 were at the march, it was clearly larger than that, Irish Times are saying 5000. It's hard to be sure but I think it was a little bigger than 5000

They parroted the government line more than once about the existing legislation etc. etc. which is totally irrelevant and a diversionary tactic, the problem is the constitution needs change and that is what the march was all about. RTE frequently does this though, they don't seem to have the wit to realise that govt or a lobby group are trying to fool them with irrelevances.

Constructive criticism -

> There were radio spots on Newstalk and a heap of non national stations

My wife is a full time mother, and has Newstalk on a lot during the day, she had heard nothing about this march until I told her a week beforehand.

> there were 10,000 flyers given out in Dublin

I work in the city centre, the only flyers I saw were on the day, handed out to people who'd already committed to march

> there were 10 paid advertisements in publications

Didn't see any.

> There were 1,000 posters put up the week before in Dublin city

I work in Stephen's Green area, I saw two posters within a week of the march.

> as well as daily up dates on the abortionrights.ie site, twitter, Facebook and the social media for doctors, for choice, Nwci.

I don't do twitter or farcebook by choice, and advise anyone else who cares about privacy to do likewise. Some people can lose their jobs for being seen to support abortion rights, they should never have to use a site like facebook, which forces real names, to find out what's happening.

> and the banner has in my sig for the last 3 weeks.

Yes I saw that and PM'd you, because the abortion rights campaign site didn't have a link to the march on its events page :rolleyes:

> There were also buses organised to come to the march in Galway, Cork, Limerick, and Belfast by pro choice groups.

I hope these were better publicised than the march itself was.