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Atlas Shrugged

robindch · 2010-06-03 17:28:26

For those not familiar with it, it's a large table-thumper of a book, written by a Russian emigrée to the USA named Ayn Rand who, through that book and others, expounded a philosophy she called Objectivism, something which she claimed was entirely rational. The book is hugely popular in the USA, and apart from the bible, I…

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#932 23-09-2014 07:24PM

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IIRC, France transitioned to its Fifth Republic when it gave up its North African colonies in the 1960s.

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#933 23-09-2014 10:00PM

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PopePalpatine wrote: »

IIRC, France transitioned to its Sixth Republic when it gave up its North African colonies in the 1960s.

No, fifth. I messed up in my last post, Vichy isn't numbered in the republic system, because as a Nazi client state it didn't adopt the parliamentary or any other democratic or quasi-democratic system.

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#934 25-09-2014 04:32PM

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Funny how the libertarian mob just seem to drive by this thread and throw out random accusations and never stick around to back them up.

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#935 26-09-2014 01:57AM

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If you one really wants to discuss libertarianism, then I suggest to open up a thread or contribute to one that is already created in the political theory forum which is a neutral setting. Everyone knows where it is.

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#936 26-09-2014 02:50AM

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I'm just going to assume that 'neutral' meant the poster demographic.

Posters can indeed go there but I hope they don't. I'd miss em. We'd miss them! We'd be all lonely here and no one to share with biscuits with. Plus no one crucify with our God-like Mod powers. Dictators have feelings too you know!

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#937 26-09-2014 08:33AM

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Just so we're clear, is Salon more or less lefty than Jezebel?

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#938 26-09-2014 09:39AM

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The thread went the typical way any thread about libertarianism goes. They are quick to throw mud, socialist, fascist, statist etc. But can't take any criticism. They will also point out the obvious issues with countries that have governments i.e. almost every country ever. When asked to explain how a libertarian country would be different or better though it is like pulling teeth and you won't get a reply. This is because it is so ridiculous. Check out the 20Cent guide to libertarians http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75190058

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#939 26-09-2014 10:41AM

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jank wrote: »

If you one really wants to discuss libertarianism, then I suggest to open up a thread or contribute to one that is already created in the political theory forum which is a neutral setting. Everyone knows where it is.

so knowing this , why did you and others participate in the first place ? And ye still leave all questions put to ye unanswered .

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#940 26-09-2014 10:42AM

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marienbad wrote: »

Funny how the libertarian mob just seem to drive by this thread [...]

jank wrote: »

If you one really wants to discuss libertarianism, then I suggest to open up a thread or contribute to one that is already created in the political theory forum which is a neutral setting [...]

Ladies and gentlemen - no need for those kind of comments from either side.

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#941 26-09-2014 01:28PM

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20Cent wrote: »

Check out the 20Cent guide to libertarians http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75190058

I read that as 50 Cent's guide to libertarians and ended up being very disappointed.

Mod : Also this isn't the place for that type of goading.

The thread went the typical way any thread about libertarianism goes. They are quick to throw mud, socialist, fascist, statist etc. But can't take any criticism. They will also point out the obvious issues with countries that have governments i.e. almost every country ever. When asked to explain how a libertarian country would be different or better though it is like pulling teeth and you won't get a reply. This is because it is so ridiculous. Check out the 20Cent guide to libertarians http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75190058

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#942 26-09-2014 03:51PM

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Deleted User wrote: »

Just so we're clear, is Salon more or less lefty than Jezebel?

Salon is lefty but I think Jezebel is lefty controvertialist. Am open to correction. Not in a kinky way though.

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#943 26-09-2014 05:18PM

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Isn't Jezebel more of a feminist website rather than a general catch-all left-wing site?

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#944 26-09-2014 08:39PM

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Turtwig wrote: »

I'm just going to assume that 'neutral' meant the poster demographic.

Posters can indeed go there but I hope they don't. I'd miss em. We'd miss them! We'd be all lonely here and no one to share with biscuits with. Plus no one crucify with our God-like Mod powers. Dictators have feelings too you know!

To misquote Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri:

Please don't go. The mods need you. They look down on you.

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#945 26-09-2014 11:48PM

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I'm sorry Bryan but that's not entirely accurate. It's more like Loki's ant and boot. Posters, the ants, have no quarrel with mods, the boots. Mods are sadistic boots that step on ants for fun. We don't look down on anybody; we squish them!

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#946 29-09-2014 02:39PM

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have we been explained yet why Somalia has not, in fact, turned into a libertarian paradise, and that this is to blame on governments and regulations?

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#947 29-09-2014 03:04PM

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Vivisectus wrote: »

have we been explained yet why Somalia has not, in fact, turned into a libertarian paradise, and that this is to blame on governments and regulations?

I'll throw in a guess and say that Governments are to blame.

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#948 29-09-2014 03:27PM

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I'm guessing they don't count as the likes of al-Shabab count as governments. Somalia is more like an argument against anarchy rather than just libertarianism.

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#949 29-09-2014 03:28PM

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John Oliver has a great piece on Ayn Rand in his show Last Week Tonight - I'll post up the youtube clip asap

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#950 29-09-2014 03:50PM

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wprathead wrote: »

John Oliver has a great piece on Ayn Rand in his show Last Week Tonight - I'll post up the youtube clip asap

too slow!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mJpVf4dkc

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#951 07-10-2014 01:23PM

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#4:

http://www.cracked.com/article_21333_5-acts-staggering-hypocrisy-from-self-righteous-critics.html

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#952 07-10-2014 02:39PM

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I'm not the only one here who saw Rand's acceptance of government aid as similar to Mother Teresa getting expensive cancer treatment, am I?

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#953 07-10-2014 02:58PM

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PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'm not the only one here who saw Rand's acceptance of government aid as similar to Mother Teresa getting expensive cancer treatment, am I?

Did mother Teresa spend her life calling those who use government services moochers?

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#954 07-10-2014 03:25PM

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Nope, but she believed that a painful illness brought someone "closer" to God.

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#955 07-10-2014 03:37PM

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PopePalpatine wrote: »

Nope, but she believed that a painful illness brought someone "closer" to God.

they were both hypocrites

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#956 07-10-2014 03:37PM

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PopePalpatine wrote: »

Nope, but she believed that a painful illness brought someone "closer" to God.

What's your point?

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#957 07-10-2014 03:46PM

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I think marienbad said it just before you posted.

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#958 07-10-2014 03:51PM

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PopePalpatine wrote: »

I think marienbad said it just before you posted.

Some people are hypocrites so what?

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#959 07-10-2014 05:16PM

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20Cent wrote: »

Some people are hypocrites so what?

Kinda invalidates what you say in a practice what you preach sort of way , don't you think ?

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#960 07-10-2014 05:20PM

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20Cent wrote: »

Did mother Teresa spend her life calling those who use government services moochers?

No but she did spend quite a chunk of her career refusing to give proper health care to the poor of Calcutta. Said it "brought them closer to god" or some ****.

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#961 07-10-2014 05:29PM

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marienbad wrote: »

Kinda invalidates what you say in a practice what you preach sort of way , don't you think ?

Honestly totally lost on this one you need to spell it out. No idea what Mother Teresa has to do with Ayn Rand.

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