Nexen N8000 tires - anybody tried?

Haven't tried the tires., but re the fitting of customer's own tires it is very difficult to get a garage to do it.
I'm from Kildare but living in Dublin atm and the nearest garage I could find to do it was in Kildare town , for example.

Rylie Obedient Choir wrote: »

I don't think you would have grounds to sue them also the chances are the tyre you are fitting is a much better tyre than the cheap rubbish being pushed by a lot of tyre places.

I dont know why they all dont do it. Charge a 10er a corner and its 40 quid more than they get if they weren't doing it they will most likely get your business then for wheel alignment also which is another 50 quid or so in most places.

OP if you look on the eyretyres website there is a list of recommended fitters who don't have a problem fitting tyres.

Because they cant stand over what they dont sell, and legal issues aside, if Johnny gets his tires fitted at Fitter X and has a blowout that sends him into a wall, then he will go around telling everyone and anyone how Fitter X fitted defective tires on his car. Doesnt matter that its not true; reputations dont take long to damage and are very hard to mend.

Its the very same reason why most hotels/pubs dont allow you bring your own food to parties.

Its one thing having tires delivered from Camskills/Eiretyres; at least there is a good chance that they will be okay. Tires that someone pulls from their boot could come from anywhere.

Rylie Obedient Choir wrote: »

Yet a number of places have are doing it and they don't appear to be having any problem with it. Also the fact so many places are fitting terrible Chinese tyres that are no doubt leading to crashes in the wet doesn't appear to be deterring them.

I think anyone who is up on things enough to be buying tyres online wouldn't be a person to go bad mouthing a fitter if they had a blow out tbh.

More power to them. Im not saying its rational; you asked why more places dont do it and Im explaining the logic behind their decision not to. Agree or disagree all you like; many companies and many lines of industry take a similar stance over goods that they do not themselves sell. Maybe its costing them business, but all it takes is one clown with one set of tires that they bought second hand off eBay/from a scrap yard or something and their reputation is down the toilet. Some will take that risk, others wont.

Rylie Obedient Choir wrote: »

It's getting more and more popular though and there is significant price differences so more places might not have much choice and not be able to afford to turn away the fitting business.

The inevitable end result will be that prices for fitting tyres will increase, narrowing the price gap.

Charging €10 per tyre for fitting simply isn't a sustainable business model.

Tail Docker wrote: »

I thought that sounded pretty good money. Better than mending a puncture for a fiver..or washing the whole car for €6 which an awful lot do..

I understand that it sounds like ok money. But when you break it down and consider overheads you soon realise it isn't.

First of all tyre fitting should be charged at 23% vat. So your €10 equates to €8.13. Now a lot of places will sidestep some or all of this vat by adding a separate charge for balancing and charge that out at 13.5% So even assuming that your tyre fitter of choice just puts down wheel balancing on the invoice and charges 13.5% vat on the whole labour charge (which technically is tax evasion) then they are still only getting €8.81 out of your tenner.

Now consider what they or their employee have to do to put on a tyre for you.

Bring your car into their premises.
Put your car on their 2 post lift.
Remove the wheel using their air gun.
Remove the old tyre using their tyre machine.
Replace the valve from their stock of new valves.
Refit the tyre using their tyre machine and tyre fitting paste.
Balance the wheel using their balancer and weights.
Refit the wheel and torque the wheel studs using their torque wrench.
Prepare and print an invoice for you using their computer, printer, ink and paper.
Pay for disposal of your old tyre.

How much do you reckon they will have left of your €8.81 by the time everything on that list is paid for?

Valetta wrote: »

Tyre fitting should be charged at 13.5% as it's all labour.

Tyre fitting is specifically excluded from the lower rate and should be charged at 23%

Check the revenue website if you don't believe me.

I'm on a phone as well but I will find the relevant info for you tomorrow and post.

Valetta wrote: »

If I had a cafe I'd be extremely miffed if a customer arrived in with three eggs and asked me to make an omelette for him. -:)

No point being miffed. Just charge him accordingly

Let's say you charge a tenner for an omelette and the eggs cost you 50 cent. Then if some lad bring his own eggs how much should you charge him?

€9.50 is the obvious answer.

And if he said here are the eggs, make me an omelette and I'll give you a fiver you would tell him to eff off.

So why is it different when it comes to people bringing their own parts to a garage?

There is a bit of a change of attitude needed on the part of both garages and motorists IMO.

dharn wrote: »

Why would they ? You turn up with what could be a rubbish tyre they fit it you get a blowout a few weeks later you sue them :eek:

If that was the case, they wouldn't repair punctures either.

A different business, I know, but many restaurants allow you to BYOB and charge corkage (usually €8-10). I know one restaurant that has no corkage charge. Being a 'wine is wine, as long as it is not vinegar' person, I am much happier bringing an inexpensive wine that I know I like and paying corkage than paying a 300% markup on their house wine. The corkage charge more than covers the cost of stocking the glasses (and washing them later) and opening and later disposing of the bottle.

Meal ingredients - haven't tried that yet! I might, though, in very special circumstances - very special occasion, nice piece of organic fillet of beef, pork, goat, lamb, rabbit, hare, pheasant or wild duck etc. Obviously I would ask beforehand instead of rocking up with the goods in a plastic bag, and I would be prepared to pay a reasonable price for this special service. I would offer to sign a disclaimer, of course...

I think I paid €40 a couple of years ago to a tyre place (phoned and asked first) to fit and balance two tyres which I supplied, as well as rotating the rears to the front and balancing them too. We were all happy. If the lane and the fitter is unoccupied, the overheads (disposal, valves, weights,paste, oh - and paper and ink - seriously?) are minimal. Machine wear and tear - negligible.

Regarding parts: if I know what is needed - say CV joints or regular service parts (oil, plugs filters etc.), I source my own. I have never been refused by any mechanic (always ask in advance, of course). I assume they adjust their labour cost accordingly, and I am OK with that. I also know that if a part which I supplied subsequently fails, that is on me. Or if I supplied a wrong part, any extra labour cost is also on me.



Finally, anyone have an opinion on those Nexen N8000 tyres?

OP, what profile tyre are you looking at and have you looked at openeo? Prices were better on there last time I was looking.