I see we now have the "War on Diseases"

Egginacup · 16-09-2014 11:13PM #1

3000 US troops to be planted (most likely with guns and helicopters) in Liberia to "fight" Ebola.

:pac:

Autonomous · 16-09-2014 11:15PM

Has ebola coverted to Islam?

whupdedo · 16-09-2014 11:16PM

Does liberia have oil, we wouldnt want the oil to catch ebola now would we

dxhound2005 · 16-09-2014 11:20PM

Nothing new. I see there is a War on Malaria and a Fight against Cancer.

fleet_admiral · 16-09-2014 11:21PM

Moyes should have bought him last season to solve his woes

Tail Docker · 16-09-2014 11:22PM

We're here to liberia-ate ye, from the sick. Better to die by a good, clean US of A bullet than some virus. Possibly.

BMJD · 16-09-2014 11:24PM

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Moyes should have bought him last season to solve his woes

Ye what

dxhound2005 · 16-09-2014 11:26PM

The Voice of America.

http://www.voanews.com/content/us-sending-troops-to-liberia-expanded-ebola-effort/2451118.html

Under the U.S. plan, 3,000 U.S. troops will be sent to a new command center in Liberia's capital, Monrovia, to help with the transportation of supplies and other personnel.

U.S. forces will construct 17 health care facilities of 100 beds each to isolate and treat victims. The U.S. mission will also set up a facility to train 500 health care workers per week.

If that fails they probably will start a shooting war and start drilling for oil.

ceadaoin. · 16-09-2014 11:27PM

The U.S. military will deploy about 3,000 personnel to West Africa to coordinate international aid, build treatment centers and train health-care workers as part of President Barack Obama's offensive against a rapidly worsening Ebola outbreak, a senior administration official said Monday.

Sounds like a good thing to me. The WHO has already said that this type of action is needed to stop the spread of the disease which has been described as out of control in Liberia. If the US want to make sure ebola doesn't land on their doorstep then this is what has to be done. Good job they are stepping up tbh because no one else seems to care too much about it.

FloatingVoter · 16-09-2014 11:28PM

If they declare war on Alcoholics (cos that's a disease and I'm wobbling by that) then we are armed, drunk and angry. We also have infiltrated the highest levels of the land. Any land.

WakeUp · 17-09-2014 12:39AM

ebola has gone exponential in Liberia anyways. the predictive models of future case rates some of the scientists have come out with are scary. even if they are just 10% accurate. this outbreak is different there is something different about it this time. and its been underestimated. more than most Im the first to give the US army stick and what not but in this instance fair play to them. but it isnt enough more needs to be done. this could take years to get under control even the WHO figures predict 20,000 fatalities before this has run its course. I reckon that might be an optimistic number. without wanting or needing to push the panic button we certainly need to watch this closely.

Rucking_Fetard · 17-09-2014 01:06AM

WakeUp wrote: »

ebola has gone exponential in Liberia anyways. the predictive models of future case rates some of the scientists have come out with are scary. even if they are just 10% accurate. this outbreak is different there is something different about it this time. and its been underestimated. more than most Im the first to give the US army stick and what not but in this instance fair play to them. but it isnt enough more needs to be done. this could take years to get under control even the WHO figures predict 20,000 fatalities before this has run its course. I reckon that might be an optimistic number. without wanting or needing to push the panic button we certainly need to watch this closely.

In a worst-case hypothetical scenario, should the outbreak continue with recent trends, the case burden could gain an additional 77,181 to 277,124 cases by the end of 2014.

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

Will the Ebola virus go airborne?

My name is URL · 17-09-2014 01:36AM

It's not even funny. US leaders are literally calling for a 'war' on ebola

"President Barack Obama on Tuesday called West Africa's deadly Ebola outbreak a looming threat to global security and announced a major expansion of the U.S. role in trying to halt its spread, including deployment of 3,000 troops to the region.

"The reality is that this epidemic is going to get worse before it gets better,"

The epidemic of the 'muricans involving their troops in absolutely everything they fcuking do presumably.

football game in Croke Park - get two fighter-jets from Germany to do a flyover (at a cost of?)
be a veteran of war and get a bad infection in a US hospital without the proper insurance and you'd be charged hundreds of thousands of dollars for treatment and probably counter-sued for costs

What are these 3000 troops going to be doing anyway? Patrol the borders of other countries.. limiting movement of those they see as suspicious? How very thoughtful of them all :rolleyes:

Turtwig · 17-09-2014 01:41AM

Too little too late.

Having just American troops on the ground sends the wrong message. The indigenous population are superstitious and scared as it is, last thing they need is a foreign military presence. Either all countries armies go or none. People are far too paranoid at the moment.

dxhound2005 · 17-09-2014 01:47AM

My name is URL wrote: »

What are these 3000 troops going to be doing anyway? Patrol the borders of other countries.. limiting movement of those they see as suspicious? How very thoughtful of them all :rolleyes:

How very inventive of you to make up all that.

Lapin · 17-09-2014 01:51AM

My name is URL wrote: »

[*]football game in Croke Park - get two fighter-jets from Germany to do a flyover (at a cost of?)

Yeah that was a poor decision.

A dozen F-16s would have been a hell of a lot better !

My name is URL · 17-09-2014 01:52AM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

How very inventive of you to make up all that.

G'wan so, Zacchaeus.

What'll they be at over there..? Taking swabs and giving people sponge-baths?

Turtwig · 17-09-2014 01:55AM

I'd suspect medical logistics and construction of medical camps. Doubt they'd be used as quarantine troops. (That's just asking for US enemies to "get" them to open fire on civilians. )

dxhound2005 · 17-09-2014 01:56AM

My name is URL wrote: »

G'wan so, Zacchaeus.

What'll they be at over there..? Taking swabs and giving people sponge-baths?

G'wan and read the part of the thread before your own brilliant input. It's not very long.

ceadaoin. · 17-09-2014 02:01AM

My name is URL wrote: »

G'wan so, Zacchaeus.

What'll they be at over there..? Taking swabs and giving people sponge-baths?

Have you looked into this at all? There are many articles online stating exactly what they will be doing or it has been said in this thread too if you just read the previous one page. Here is a quote for you

The White House said the troops will not be responsible for direct patient care. Amid concern about infections, Obama said the "safety of our personnel will remain a top priority."

Obama's plan calls for sending 3,000 troops, including engineers and medical personnel; establishing a regional command and control center in Liberia's capital, Monrovia, commanded by Major General Darryl Williams, who arrived there on Tuesday; and forming a staging area in Senegal to help distribute personnel and aid on the ground.

It also calls for building 17 treatment centers with 100 beds each; placing U.S. Public Health Service personnel in new field hospitals in Liberia; training thousands of healthcare workers for six months or longer; and creating an "air bridge" to get health workers and medical supplies into West Africa more quickly.

Tail Docker · 17-09-2014 06:50AM

Then 200 US troops come back to the states with ebola..and it spreads...

Akrasia · 17-09-2014 08:51AM

This is exactly the kind of thing that the Military and civil defence forces should be doing.

There is a crisis in Liberia that they do not have adequate resources to deal with themselves. Their medical crisis has global implications so the U.S. sending in assistance to build emergency medical treatment centres is an excellent development.

Can the conspiracy theory loonies please step away from the keyboard? The Paranoid CT bullsh1t (as well as local superstitious nonsense) is actually costing lives and assisting with the spread of this disease.

There are people refusing to present for treatment who have symptoms of the disease because they have been convinced that the authorities are not to be trusted.

ceadaoin. · 17-09-2014 09:34AM

Akrasia wrote: »

This is exactly the kind of thing that the Military and civil defence forces should be doing.

There is a crisis in Liberia that they do not have adequate resources to deal with themselves. Their medical crisis has global implications so the U.S. sending in assistance to build emergency medical treatment centres is an excellent development.

Can the conspiracy theory loonies please step away from the keyboard? The Paranoid CT bullsh1t (as well as local superstitious nonsense) is actually costing lives and assisting with the spread of this disease.

There are people refusing to present for treatment who have symptoms of the disease because they have been convinced that the authorities are not to be trusted.

It's not just distrust of authority, many treatment centres are so poorly equipped that to go there means you probably will die. A lot of them are full anyway so the people that are going are being turned away to die in the streets which in turn leads to the disease spreading. This US aid is much needed and hopefully other countries will join and help to turn the tide.

I know people like to think that this won't affect developed countries. I thought that too when it was first being reported, but if you have been following the outbreak at all then it's obvious that it is a threat. Norovirus manages to infect thousands of people every year and that is spread in a similar fashion to ebola.

Grayson · 17-09-2014 09:49AM

Turtwig wrote: »

Too little too late.

Having just American troops on the ground sends the wrong message. The indigenous population are superstitious and scared as it is, last thing they need is a foreign military presence. Either all countries armies go or none. People are far too paranoid at the moment.

Thousands have been killed. To be fair, it's the best use of the US military I've seen in years. Beats the crap outta drone killing some shepherds.

And the locals are suspicious/superstitious anyway. That wasn't going to change with or without soldiers.

Remember some of these countries have near zero infrastructure. I think Liberia has a couple of hundred doctors for a population of millions. If the US military can get supplies to the needy then I'm all for it.

Grayson · 17-09-2014 09:50AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's not just distrust of authority, many treatment centres are so poorly equipped that to go there means you probably will die. A lot of them are full anyway so the people that are going are being turned away to die in the streets which in turn leads to the disease spreading. This US aid is much needed and hopefully other countries will join and help to turn the tide.

I know people like to think that this won't affect developed countries. I thought that too when it was first being reported, but if you have been following the outbreak at all then it's obvious that it is a threat. Norovirus manages to infect thousands of people every year and that is spread in a similar fashion to ebola.

Plus there's always the danger of it mutating and becoming airborne. The risk is very small, but it gets bigger with each infection.

Dyr · 17-09-2014 10:03AM

Lapin wrote: »

Yeah that was a poor decision.

A dozen F-16s would have been a hell of a lot better !

Nuke it from orbit, its the only way to be sure

SeanW · 17-09-2014 10:08AM

Egginacup wrote: »

3000 US troops to be planted (most likely with guns and helicopters) in Liberia to "fight" Ebola.

:pac:

If you believe there is something else going on, why did you not start this thread in Conspiracy Theories?

Fratton Fred · 17-09-2014 10:10AM

My name is URL wrote: »

It's not even funny. US leaders are literally calling for a 'war' on ebola

The epidemic of the 'muricans involving their troops in absolutely everything they fcuking do presumably.
football game in Croke Park - get two fighter-jets from Germany to do a flyover (at a cost of?)

be a veteran of war and get a bad infection in a US hospital without the proper insurance and you'd be charged hundreds of thousands of dollars for treatment and probably counter-sued for costs

What are these 3000 troops going to be doing anyway? Patrol the borders of other countries.. limiting movement of those they see as suspicious? How very thoughtful of them all :rolleyes:

You underestimate the sheer scale of the US military. They have possibly the largest logistics capability of any organisation on the planet. When it comes to building field hospitals, shelters and moving supplies in to the middle of nowhere, there is nothing on this planet that comes remotely close to the US military.

This is a good move, but as always with the US, it's a case of damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Elmer Blooker · 17-09-2014 10:15AM

SeanW wrote: »

If you believe there is something else going on, why did you not start this thread in Conspiracy Theories?

The US only sends troops to places that are rich in resources, everyone knows that - that's not a conspiracy theory. Liberia is very rich in gold and diamonds.

Canis Lupus · 17-09-2014 10:15AM

Grayson wrote: »

Plus there's always the danger of it mutating and becoming airborne. The risk is very small, but it gets bigger with each infection.

No it won't. Stop watching Outbreak.

PucaMama · 17-09-2014 10:17AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

No it won't. Stop watching Outbreak.

It's a virus it does have the potential to mutate whether people want to acknowledge it or not

I see we now have the "War on Diseases"

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