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The Irish relationship with strong language

  • 14-09-2014 07:43PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭


    A perception exists that Irish people are unusually fond of doing "strong" language, i.e. cursing. It's a trait we share with the Scots.

    So my question is this? Why? We are a nation of literary big-hitters, yet often find ourselves reduced to dropping f-bombs, rudely cursing at each other down the pub or telling people to 'ask my ass" when a simple no would do.

    So; why?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Coz we're a bunch of cunts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    I've never heard anyone saying 'ask my ass'.

    I love cursing though. It's fcuking awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    Guys please, no cursing HERE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    I never curse. I hate it and would find it hard to take anyone who does seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I never curse. I hate it and would find it hard to take anyone who does seriously.

    that must be difficult, because as the OP proves, we are a nation of cursers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    A perception exists that Irish people are unusually fond of doing "strong" language, i.e. cursing. It's a trait we share with the Scots.

    So my question is this? Why? We are a nation of literary big-hitters, yet often find ourselves reduced to dropping f-bombs, rudely cursing at each other down the pub or telling people to 'ask my ass" when a simple no would do.

    So; why?

    Ah sure that's Fairview for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Go fcuk yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I was told before moving to Canada that people here don't swear, my ass they don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Ah sure that's Fairview for you.

    It was neither fair, nor a view:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Ah sure that's Fairview for you.

    An old man once called me a 'cockbucket' as I took in my milk bottles one glorious summer morning. Ruined my whole day and if I may say so, he was quite the bollix himself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    that must be difficult, because as the OP proves, we are a nation of cursers.

    Actually I don't think we are. I can only think of a handful of people who curse regularly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Actually I don't think we are. I can only think of a handful of people who curse regularly.

    Really ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭enda1


    Cause swearing is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    enda1 wrote: »
    Cause swearing is great.

    When done properly it is, if someone was saying fuck every other word it just gets annoying but well placed swear words can make something funnier. Fuck and it's variations are brilliant words, can be used in nearly any context or meaning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Really ?

    Yeah. Really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    Gonna be a cynical cnut here and say this is yet another example of thinking something is uniquely Irish when in fact, it's the same in nearly any place.

    In general(and this is a generalisation I know) 'strong language' will be a lot more common the more working class the area is. Worldwide.

    Been to Spain? When you are able to speak spanish you learn very quickly that they are, shall we say, very creative with some of their swear words. Same with Russian. Then closer to home we have the British, 'are you avin a fuckin laff' types.

    Basically we have no special relationship with strong language. And going to the pub isn't an exclusively Irish thing either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    Gonna be a cynical cnut here and say this is yet another example of thinking something is uniquely Irish when in fact, it's the same in nearly any place.

    In general(and this is a generalisation I know) 'strong language' will be a lot more common the more working class the area is. Worldwide.

    Been to Spain? When you are able to speak spanish you learn very quickly that they are, shall we say, very creative with some of their swear words. Same with Russian. Then closer to home we have the British, 'are you avin a fuckin laff' types.

    Basically we have no special relationship with strong language.

    Nonesense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Gonna be a cynical cnut here and say this is yet another example of thinking something is uniquely Irish when in fact, it's the same in nearly any place.

    In general(and this is a generalisation I know) 'strong language' will be a lot more common the more working class the area is. Worldwide.

    Been to Spain? When you are able to speak spanish you learn very quickly that they are, shall we say, very creative with some of their swear words. Same with Russian. Then closer to home we have the British, 'are you avin a fuckin laff' types.

    Basically we have no special relationship with strong language.

    That really, some people swear, some don't. Geographical location doesn't really have much to do with it. I've heard Americans swear like sailors, and met Americans who "damn" was something they'd never even say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Yeah. Really.

    I seriously doubt that tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    krudler wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that tbh

    Doubt it if you want but it's the truth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Doubt it if you want but it's the truth.

    No it isn't. They must just know you have a bug up your ass about cursing and hold back in front of you. Even my mom-in-law says awful things when she thinks no ones about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    What the hell is wrong with a supposedly bad word.

    For me saying something is a load of bollocks or pure sh1te is a far better way to describe something than saying its rubbish.

    Swear words are fairly harmless. You could eff and blind your whole life an be the nicest person around and the fella who uses nice language could be the biggest **** you'll ever meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    So my question is this? Why? We are a nation of literary big-hitters, yet often find ourselves reduced to dropping f-bombs,

    I'd consider it to be absolutely the opposite. To be reduced to not cursing would make language a far more boring experience.

    Catharsis for the user, comedy for the person hearing it.

    The content of what's being said - the meaning behind it - is the most important, but swearing is an invaluable tool in any person's verbal arsenal and to eschew using because you're, well... a giant pussy, is ignorant and a missed opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    No it isn't. They must just know you have a bug up your ass about cursing and hold back in front of you. Even my mom-in-law says awful things when she thinks no ones about.

    You think it's more probable that the majority of people I know, family, friends, coworkers, acquaintances would indefinitely abstain from cursing in front of me because they know I don't like it rather than simply preferring not to curse? Seriously?

    You're clutching at straws there dude I'm not that scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    With regards to people who curse a lot I think there tends to be a large degree of narcissism and lack of self control involved.

    The "society can't tell me what to do" crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    You think it's more probable that the majority of people I know, family, friends, coworkers, acquaintances would indefinitely abstain from cursing in front of me because they know I don't like it rather than simply preferring not to curse? Seriously?

    You're clutching at straws there dude I'm not that scary.

    No I just doubt that the majority of people you know never swear, it's pretty logical to assume you know a few people who do. What company you're in can affect how much you swear too, I'd rarely curse in front of my parents, which is probably silly being that I'm in my 30's, but still swear around friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Doubt it if you want but it's the truth.

    Based on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    The OP proves f*ck all tbh.

    I reckon most people switch it on and off given the situation. In work meetings I never use it, around the kids I never use it, with clients I would occasionally use it, same with co-workers, in informal conversations with them I would use it more often, and with friends I would use it more regularly.

    I reckon most people are the same and those who use it every second word are the minority.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Based on?

    What?


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