Abducted/Missing 15 year old Wexford boy

michael999999 · 14-09-2014 01:11PM

lukesmom wrote: »

Well the CRI alert app shows the alert is still active and mentions him being abducted.

Its on radio 1 now. He got into a car of he's own free will. Alert has been stood down.

Weird case.

Skid X · 14-09-2014 01:11PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

RTE News reporting its not active.

Yeah they removed it just after I posted. It's a strange story but I suppose this is a positive development.

michael999999 · 14-09-2014 01:16PM

Skid X wrote: »

Yeah they removed it just after I posted. It's a strange story but I suppose this is a positive development.

I wonder did the mother say hr was abducted by balaclava wearing men, just to get the Gardai to act quickly?

jjf1974 · 14-09-2014 01:20PM

Link to latest development http://indo.ie/BtKTu

The_Valeyard · 14-09-2014 01:26PM

Well this has turned into a very odd story

Fat Christy · 14-09-2014 01:32PM

Hmmm, so he got into a car with 2 men wearing balaclavas willingly....WTF? Very strange.....

EDIT: Only noticed that they are now saying he wasn't abducted by masked men. It is still a very odd case.

PizzamanIRL · 14-09-2014 01:34PM

They could have staged it as a kidnapping for some strange reason that I cannot think of

14-09-2014 01:37PM

Maybe he got into the car with the lads wearing balaclavas because he was going to put one on and visit an ATM?

Who knows, but there a lot of this story we arent being told.

Reoil · 14-09-2014 01:37PM

"Gardai have stood down a Child Rescue Ireland Alert after they said they were satisfied a 15-year-old boy earlier believed to have been abducted did not in fact vanish against his own will.

Investigators said they are satisfied Sait Canbullu was not snatched by masked men in Wexford town yesterday afternoon, however his whereabouts is still being treated as a missing persons case and are appealing for witnesses."

WTF?

Frank Lee Midere · 14-09-2014 01:43PM

I suppose what happened is.

1) he ran away with people who knew him, and:
2) They wore balaclavas to protect themselves from being seen, or:
3) The balaclava thing was made up by the mother.

EmilyHoward · 14-09-2014 01:44PM

Wasting the Gardai's time and lying to them should carry a severe punishment. It undermines the whole CRI alert system.

hatrickpatrick · 14-09-2014 02:00PM

Just speculating here and don't in any way want to pre-judge anything, but could it be that the kid was part of whatever gang the balaclava wearing guys were part of, and got in to the car to join them on a job?

Would be astoundingly stupid though as he would now be identifiable as part of it and would put the others at risk. Still, I've heard of far more ridiculous cock ups by gangs before - remember when that guy was abducted a few years ago in East Wall and the gang burned out the wrong car in the parking complex, leaving the getaway car with all its forensics to be found by the Gardai?

_Whimsical_ · 14-09-2014 02:00PM

Delighted that this probably means the boy is alright at least.

There was a very odd interview on the radio with a guard who said they had reports of a struggle, a boy screaming and being bungled into a car by masked men but that other witnesses have been interviewed and they no longer believe this is the case.
Then they said the boy is still missing and considered to be at risk and are still appealing for reports of sightings and want everyone to check the pic online so they can identify him.

I think the lesson of this case is that the CRI thing doesn't work and they need to rename it to something like amber alert so we all know what it means, and to step it up with text alerts in this sort of situation. If this was the real thing we would have failed a child in danger.

hatrickpatrick · 14-09-2014 02:00PM

Just speculating here and don't in any way want to pre-judge anything, but could it be that the kid was part of whatever gang the balaclava wearing guys were part of, and got in to the car to join them on a job?

Would be astoundingly stupid though as he would now be identifiable as part of it and would put the others at risk. Still, I've heard of far more ridiculous cock ups by gangs before - remember when that guy was abducted a few years ago in East Wall and the gang burned out the wrong car in the parking complex, leaving the getaway car with all its forensics to be found by the Gardai?

michael999999 · 14-09-2014 02:02PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Just speculating here and don't in any way want to pre-judge anything, but could it be that the kid was part of whatever gang the balaclava wearing guys were part of, and got in to the car to join them on a job?

Would be astoundingly stupid though as he would now be identifiable as part of it and would put the others at risk. Still, I've heard of far more ridiculous cock ups by gangs before - remember when that guy was abducted a few years ago in East Wall and the gang burned out the wrong car in the parking complex, leaving the getaway car with all its forensics to be found by the Gardai?

Its not the systems fault that people in this case have lied about certain details!

Galwayguy35 · 14-09-2014 02:02PM

Bit strange his family are on FB giving out to people who comment on the case there, if a member of my family was missing the last place I would be is logged onto FB.

Little CuChulainn · 14-09-2014 02:02PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Just speculating here and don't in any way want to pre-judge anything, but could it be that the kid was part of whatever gang the balaclava wearing guys were part of, and got in to the car to join them on a job?

Would be astoundingly stupid though as he would now be identifiable as part of it and would put the others at risk. Still, I've heard of far more ridiculous cock ups by gangs before - remember when that guy was abducted a few years ago in East Wall and the gang burned out the wrong car in the parking complex, leaving the getaway car with all its forensics to be found by the Gardai?

I think a lot of people confuse stupidity with not giving a ****. A lot of younger criminals in Ireland are completely overt about their activities as they know they'll have to kill someone, or come close to it, before getting any kind of time behind bars. While I do believe in rehabilitation, especially of younger people, the give a hug mentality in the justice system is beyond a joke.

SpaceTime · 14-09-2014 02:38PM

I saw two people fighting over a kid in a city centre location maybe 5+ years ago.

There was a lot of screaming and an attempt to take the kid away. I called the Gardai and they responded extremely rapidly. They seemed to be on the scene in about 1 minute and immediately intervened.

It's hard for anyone to prejudge this kind of thing, including the Gardaí. They can only respond to what's in front of them.

Irish policing works to a large degree because people all cooperate to ensure the place is safe. The Gardaí need to be able to crowdsource help like this from time to time and I think it's something that we could probably make a lot more use of through Twitter, Facebook and social media.

You could have extreme alerts like this where people should probably be alerted by SMS.

However, it should be possible to subscribe to your local area's alert system, so for example when a burglary gets reported or a car gets stolen, everyone knows what to look out for.

All it would take is a national Emergency Alert app or even a specialised Twitter client.

There are some early adopters of this type of stuff already. For example, Cork City Council alerts me anytime there's a risk of severe weather / flooding in the city centre. You just sign up for their free alert service and you get an SMS. It probably prevents a lot of property damage and people parking on the quays / low lying areas at risky times.

We should be using this kind of technology a lot more.
Smartphone usage in Ireland is pretty much in line with the US and elsewhere at present. Roughly between 61% and 70% (there are a few different surveys) of the population currently use smartphones.

Little CuChulainn · 14-09-2014 02:53PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

I saw two people fighting over a kid in a city centre location maybe 5+ years ago.

There was a lot of screaming and an attempt to take the kid away. I called the Gardai and they responded extremely rapidly. They seemed to be on the scene in about 1 minute and immediately intervened.

It's hard for anyone to prejudge this kind of thing, including the Gardaí. They can only respond to what's in front of them.

Irish policing works to a large degree because people all cooperate to ensure the place is safe. The Gardaí need to be able to crowdsource help like this from time to time and I think it's something that we could probably make a lot more use of through Twitter, Facebook and social media.

You could have extreme alerts like this where people should probably be alerted by SMS.

However, it should be possible to subscribe to your local area's alert system, so for example when a burglary gets reported or a car gets stolen, everyone knows what to look out for.

All it would take is a national Emergency Alert app or even a specialised Twitter client.

There are some early adopters of this type of stuff already. For example, Cork City Council alerts me anytime there's a risk of severe weather / flooding in the city centre. You just sign up for their free alert service and you get an SMS. It probably prevents a lot of property damage and people parking on the quays / low lying areas at risky times.

We should be using this kind of technology a lot more.
Smartphone usage in Ireland is pretty much in line with the US and elsewhere at present. Roughly between 61% and 70% (there are a few different surveys) of the population currently use smartphones.

There's a lot of ways technology could be used but data protection concerns prevent it. There's enough cctv footage of crimes to fill up a 24 hour channel but we only see one hour a month on crimewatch. I'd be full sure that local bookies, postal workers and barmen could identify over half the people caught on cctv but I doubt there'd be support for circulating cctv stills to them on a regular basis.

lukesmom · 14-09-2014 03:02PM

So now it's a high risk missing person alert

chooey · 14-09-2014 03:13PM

I hope he's found ok and not harmed

JimBobPlayer · 14-09-2014 03:23PM

Seems it must be family removing him from HSE care?

The_Valeyard · 14-09-2014 04:22PM

JimBobPlayer wrote: »

Seems it must be family removing him from HSE care?

Interesting, where did ya hear that? (my curiosity is peaking)

JimBobPlayer · 14-09-2014 04:24PM

Read it somewhere. He's in HSE care. His family lives in Sligo, he lives in Wexford recently. He left his most recent home and was transferred or something?

The_Valeyard · 14-09-2014 04:58PM

JimBobPlayer wrote: »

Read it somewhere. He's in HSE care. His family lives in Sligo, he lives in Wexford recently. He left his most recent home and was transferred or something?

Cheers

JimBobPlayer · 14-09-2014 05:08PM

He has been found safe and well in Sligo.

grey_so_what · 14-09-2014 05:12PM

Well, that's a positive ending.....

KERSPLAT! · 14-09-2014 05:17PM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0914/643584-cri-wexford/

RTE Tweet wrote:

Gardaí say 15-year-old Sait Canbullu who had been reported missing has been located safe and well in Sligo.

Mint Aero · 14-09-2014 05:23PM

Lingua Franca wrote: »

Yes, it is a flippant remark to make, and it was a flippant thing to think, which is why I posted my regret at not paying attention to the story when I first saw it, and added some details from the linked article in the hope that others wouldn't make the mistake I did.

Don't bother feeding them Lingua. Too many high horse around here.

chooey · 14-09-2014 05:28PM

Very strange outcome but glad he's been found!

Abducted/Missing 15 year old Wexford boy

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