Religious Fanaticism in Ireland

francis1978 · 10-09-2014 08:02AM

Its spelt Leitrim.

Hammar wrote: »

Go home OP,you're drunk.

I live about 4/5 miles from the border with Fermanagh. Plenty of protestants around and no-one gives a sh1t about religion.
Glenfarne is in Laytrum as far as i know. You could at least get that point correct when you're making your short story up.

.jacksparrow. · 10-09-2014 08:05AM

Cool story bro.

Do you work for the Sunday world or are you Paul Williams in disguise?

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 08:24AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Cool story bro.

Do you work for the Sunday world or are you Paul Williams in disguise?

No, I am not Paul Williams and one does not have to be Paul Williams to realise the amount of crime and sectarianism that actually does exist in Ireland. The total hypocrisy of criminals and sectarians is also very evident for all to see. Those who often hate each other cannot thrive without each other.

Paul Williams would know very well all about borderland fanaticism I am sure. He was not from the border area as such but not all that far from it either.

Tail Docker · 10-09-2014 08:34AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

No, I am not Paul Williams and one does not have to be Paul Williams to realise the amount of crime and sectarianism that actually does exist in Ireland. The total hypocrisy of criminals and sectarians is also very evident for all to see. Those who often hate each other cannot thrive without each other.

Paul Williams would know very well all about borderland fanaticism I am sure. He was not from the border area as such but not all that far from it either.

And if he didn't, I'd say he'd give writing about it a good shot. Never stopped him before.

conorhal · 10-09-2014 08:48AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

As said, these are armchair republican/religious bigots. These people unfortunately DO exist very much and I will have nothing to do with them in the future. Do I think they will go out and kill protestants really? No. Do I think they hate protestants? Yes. I know they think Michael McKevitt is a hero and that bin Laden and the 'caliph' (Baghdadi) are too.

Ireland thank god is peaceful now. That's why they don't act on their views. But if a war or revolution broke out, no doubt in my mind these people would turn from armchair to real activists. Wars is what provided fanatics from Hitler to Pol Pot with space to implement their hatreds. ISIS and al Qaeda the same. If Ireland's infrastructure broke down, fanatics would take over in places too. Afterall, it is within our lifetime that violence and hatred based on religion existed in Ireland and this has no entirely gone.

Cool story bro.

Great examples there, Hitler and Pol Pot, neither or which however were religious fanatics, quite the opposite in fact.
I find that the only people with a sneeking admiration for the caliphate and Bin Liner 'teaching the Brits a lesson' tend to be the self reightous loony left, the real threat to our society.
The bead shufflers I find mostly harmless, but do update your thread when they pour across the boarder into Newry and start the beheadings and forced conversions.

FTA69 · 10-09-2014 08:55AM

Paul Williams is a fantasist and so are you lad. You've posted so many inaccuracies, half-grasped concepts, exaggerations and downright spoofs on this thread it's hard to know where to begin. Aren't you the same lad who was telling us that Islamic Jihad were Al Qaeda in Gaza?

There is actually nothing more annoying than someone giving patronising lectures about XYZ when they themselves are clearly clueless themselves.

.jacksparrow. · 10-09-2014 08:57AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

No, I am not Paul Williams and one does not have to be Paul Williams to realise the amount of crime and sectarianism that actually does exist in Ireland. The total hypocrisy of criminals and sectarians is also very evident for all to see. Those who often hate each other cannot thrive without each other.

Paul Williams would know very well all about borderland fanaticism I am sure. He was not from the border area as such but not all that far from it either.

Where you not the one last week claiming eirigi were flying an Isis flag at their demo only to be told it was in fact the flag of a non violent Palestinian group.

Plus you claimed there is a huge link between Isis and dissident republicans but when pressed for evidence you admitted you had none and had fabricated the whole story.

You seem to have some weird obsession to link groups in Ireland to Isis??

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 09:02AM

conorhal wrote: »

Cool story bro.

Great examples there, Hitler and Pol Pot, neither or which however were religious fanatics, quite the opposite in fact.
I find that the only people with a sneeking admiration for the caliphate and Bin Liner 'teaching the Brits a lesson' tend to be the self reightous loony left, the real threat to our society.
The bead shufflers I find mostly harmless, but do update your thread when they pour across the boarder into Newry and start the beheadings and forced conversions.

Hitler and Pol Pot were not religious in the conventional sense. But religion and ideology are similar: both these had a fanaticism for what they believed in that knew no reason. What we see today in 'Islamic' dictatorships is the same only done with Islam instead of German nationalism and communism respectively.

There are dangerous far right and far left people in Ireland and Europe for sure. Strange as it seems at first glance, but these while are supposed to be opposite often show admiration for each other. A perfect example is the Irish far left's admiration for the far right 'Islamic' fascists of the Middle East.

.jacksparrow. · 10-09-2014 09:07AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Hitler and Pol Pot were not religious in the conventional sense. But religion and ideology are similar: both these had a fanaticism for what they believed in that knew no reason. What we see today in 'Islamic' dictatorships is the same only done with Islam instead of German nationalism and communism respectively.

There are dangerous far right and far left people in Ireland and Europe for sure. Strange as it seems at first glance, but these while are supposed to be opposite often show admiration for each other. A perfect example is the Irish far left's admiration for the far right 'Islamic' fascists of the Middle East.

Please just stop now, no one cares.

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 09:07AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Where you not the one last week claiming eirigi were flying an Isis flag at their demo only to be told it was in fact the flag of a non violent Palestinian group.

Plus you claimed there is a huge link between Isis and dissident republicans but when pressed for evidence you admitted you had none and had fabricated the whole story.

You seem to have some weird obsession to link groups in Ireland to Isis??

I have seen with my own eyes the solidarity there is between fanatics in this land and fanatics in the Arab world. The your enemy is my enemy principle.

Of course, Irish republicans love Brit-hating 'Islamofascists' or any other Brit hater for that matter. I don't know of any non-violent Palestinian group: the ones I know are all infiltrated by 'Islamic' fascist fanatics who don't want peace or settlement and who would not be satisfied even if Israel was 'wiped off the map': they want their caliphate and the only good news is even these fascists don't agree on who will lead the caliphate so hopefully all these will destroy each other.

I never admitted I had no evidence. There's a little tool called google that will tell you different. And it does not have to be specifically 'ISIS': that is just one of 1000s of awful 'Islamic' fascist terrorist groups that exist. Try typing in terms like dissident IRA al Qaeda or Hamas CIRA and you will see what you come up with!!

Failing that, go to Glenfarne or go to the outskirts of Dundalk or go to some poor Catholic part of Belfast and take note.

FTA69 · 10-09-2014 09:57AM

Please stop. You're clueless.

First of all, there are no links between any Irish group and Hamas. Least of all the CIRA who are the most useless c*nts going. The traditional links between Ireland and Palestine were between the Provisional IRA and the PLO, both secular and radical-left anti-imperialist movements. Their unity was based on similar goals of national liberation and not a mutual "hatred of the Brits" or a love of conservative religion or whatever spoof.

I don't know of any non-violent Palestinian group

There's a lot you don't know. There are countless local empowerment groups, protest groups, single-issue campaign groups, women's groups, trade unions etc etc. Palestinian society is broad and diverse like any other. Likewise the resistance groups aren't all Islamic headbangers. I was in Ramallah for a few days and my ex spent a good bit of time in female-only cafés run by feminist members of the Marxist PFLP. I stayed with Palestinian Christians in Jifna who were supporters of the Barghouti wing of Fatah and had zero time for Hamas or Islamic radicalism. Your portrayal of all Palestinian groups as religious-motivated nutjobs is nothing but a regurgitation of a caricature put out there by pro-Israeli media.

.jacksparrow. · 10-09-2014 10:00AM

FTA69 wrote: »

Please stop. You're clueless.

First of all, there are no links between any Irish group and Hamas. Least of all the CIRA who are the most useless c*nts going. The traditional links between Ireland and Palestine were between the Provisional IRA and the PLO, both secular and radical-left anti-imperialist movements. Their unity was based on similar goals of national liberation and not a mutual "hatred of the Brits" or a love of conservative religion or whatever spoof.

There's a lot you don't know. There are countless local empowerment groups, protest groups, single-issue campaign groups, women's groups, trade unions etc etc. Palestinian society is broad and diverse like any other. Likewise the resistance groups aren't all Islamic headbangers. I was in Ramallah for a few days and my ex spent a good bit of time in female-only cafés run by feminist members of the Marxist PFLP. I stayed with Palestinian Christians in Jifna who were supporters of the Barghouti wing of Fatah and had zero time for Hamas or Islamic radicalism. Your portrayal of all Palestinian groups as religious-motivated nutjobs is nothing but a regurgitation of a caricature put out there by pro-Israeli media.

I can't get my ahead around this posters agenda, its non stop non sense.

Grayson · 10-09-2014 10:27AM

FunLover18 wrote: »

Religious fanatics praising another religion's religious fanatics?

Doesn't that sort of defy the point?

There was a study done about how people view atheists. Religious people trust sex offenders more than they trust atheists.

In general people who are religious generally have more respect for someone who holds religious beliefs, even if they are of a different religion.

BeerWolf · 10-09-2014 10:33AM

Ireland was a pretty religious country in the past...

Good example is my mother, lovely woman but absolutely sick of her when she starts talking about religion... which is like 90% of the time.

topper75 · 10-09-2014 10:52AM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Sounds like Lidl own brand turkey slices.

So, these Glenfarne turkeys Ted, are they killed hal-al style or just sprinkled with holy water? Or maybe both just to be sure.

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 05:36PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Paul Williams is a fantasist and so are you lad. You've posted so many inaccuracies, half-grasped concepts, exaggerations and downright spoofs on this thread it's hard to know where to begin. Aren't you the same lad who was telling us that Islamic Jihad were Al Qaeda in Gaza?

There is actually nothing more annoying than someone giving patronising lectures about XYZ when they themselves are clearly clueless themselves.

Islamic Jihad = al Qaeda = ISIS = all the same fascist warped 'Islam'. Same stuff. They may hate each other now because they all fell out due to them not being able to agree which will spawn the true caliph. That's the only good thing about these f'ers.

I know my stuff and only post stuff I know and know for sure that if these took over in any country, the intolerant laws, world domination ambition and superiority of their 'religion' over others. I am aware that there are breakaways of breakaway factions of breakaway factions but they are all equally vile organisations and we can be only thankful they are fighting and disagreeing among themselves too.

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 05:41PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Please just stop now, no one cares.

I notice there is a huge defence of and differentiation of various 'Islamist' groups here and that there are huge strides made to differentiate them from our beloved 'Palestinians' in Hamas who wouldn't dare implement fascist 'Sharia' Hitlerist law!! And of course, we will always see those who defend the whiter than white dissidents who would be the first to condemn ISIS, al Qaeda and the Omagh bombing which was carried out by ............... Fine Gael!! Tell me when you get your Sharia fascist meets RIRA government how you like it ok!! Guinness. Mention this and you are beheaded. Whiskey. You get hacked to death!!

Nodin · 10-09-2014 05:45PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Islamic Jihad = al Qaeda = ISIS = all the same fascist warped 'Islam'. Same stuff. They may hate each other now because they all fell out due to them not being able to agree which will spawn the true caliph. That's the only good thing about these f'ers.

I know my stuff and only post stuff I know and know for sure that if these took over in any country, the intolerant laws, world domination ambition and superiority of their 'religion' over others. I am aware that there are breakaways of breakaway factions of breakaway factions but they are all equally vile organisations and we can be only thankful they are fighting and disagreeing among themselves too.

*sigh

Annasopra · 10-09-2014 05:54PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I notice there is a huge defence of and differentiation of various 'Islamist' groups here and that there are huge strides made to differentiate them from our beloved 'Palestinians' in Hamas who wouldn't dare implement fascist 'Sharia' Hitlerist law!! And of course, we will always see those who defend the whiter than white dissidents who would be the first to condemn ISIS, al Qaeda and the Omagh bombing which was carried out by ............... Fine Gael!! Tell me when you get your Sharia fascist meets RIRA government how you like it ok!! Guinness. Mention this and you are beheaded. Whiskey. You get hacked to death!!

What?

Fine Gael bombed Omagh
If you ask for a pint of guinness you'll beheaded
The Irish government is going to be Sharia Fascist RIRA

What are you smoking op?

.jacksparrow. · 10-09-2014 06:12PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I notice there is a huge defence of and differentiation of various 'Islamist' groups here and that there are huge strides made to differentiate them from our beloved 'Palestinians' in Hamas who wouldn't dare implement fascist 'Sharia' Hitlerist law!! And of course, we will always see those who defend the whiter than white dissidents who would be the first to condemn ISIS, al Qaeda and the Omagh bombing which was carried out by ............... Fine Gael!! Tell me when you get your Sharia fascist meets RIRA government how you like it ok!! Guinness. Mention this and you are beheaded. Whiskey. You get hacked to death!!

Adios!

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 06:14PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

What?

Fine Gael bombed Omagh
If you ask for a pint of guinness you'll beheaded
The Irish government is going to be Sharia Fascist RIRA

What are you smoking op?

All those Palestine-flag-waving brigade who let's admit it drink and sing rebel songs and the female ones dressing as they please better know that what they are supporting in this Palestine cause is a Palestine ruled by fascist, warmongering, drug dealing thugs who will tell people what they can eat, drink, dress in and what religion they have to follow. I think if they were to come over and implement the same here, the very people who give them sympathy from afar (their loudest supporters) would find themselves stifled by fascism within minutes. No pubs, no music, no fashion, no pork, etc. because some idiot in the first place confused Mein Kampf and the Koran and mixed up the two for their own agenda.

Now, I am NOT pro-Israel. Israel are the other side of the same coin. What they are doing is wrong. Palestine deserves neither Israel or Hamas/PLO/Fatah or other such cancer-stricken terminally ill organisations where the good in them are silenced by the evil in them. The cancer being 'Islamic' fascism. Palestine deserves peace, prosperity, a government that allows people to eat, drink and dress as they please. NOT some bloody fascist regime that wants to use Palestine as another stepping stone to establish a fascist caliph or Arab third reich. And Irish people who are excess drinkers and like to dress as they please are about the last people who would support such a regime in reality !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Annasopra · 10-09-2014 06:18PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Adios!

Same... not reading any more of that rambling nonsense.

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 06:20PM

Nodin, Jacksparrow, etc. all better give up your way of life if you are prepared for a fascist takeover. Or am I talking to actual ISIS or al Qaeda here? I can't understand why you have such a love for these vile evil organisations and defend them and differentiate them for the sake of doing so EVERY CHANCE YOU GET. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Go to ISIS controlled Iraq or North Korea if you love totalitarianism so much and leave us alone.

PopePalpatine · 10-09-2014 06:20PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

It's their biggest recruiting ground in Ireland.

I suppose you'd get pretty desperate in Cavan. :pac:

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 06:22PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Same... not reading any more of that rambling nonsense.

Ignorant person again. You are dictators with what you say. I'd love to see this country if you were in charge. Free speech and valid arguments would be gone but hate speech allowed. You deserve al Qaeda and ISIS!

Tail Docker · 10-09-2014 06:27PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Ignorant person again. You are dictators with what you say. I'd love to see this country if you were in charge. Free speech and valid arguments would be gone but hate speech allowed. You deserve al Qaeda and ISIS!

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I need something to give me a giggle when I'm on the jax.

BuilderPlumber · 10-09-2014 06:30PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I need something to give me a giggle when I'm on the jax.

There's nothing funny here about Islamic fascists, their apologisers and bullies like Nodin who always down others' viewpoints. I never have engaged in first off insults like some of you have and I have met (thankfully not in real life!) some of the most ignorant bigots on ISIS, etc. related threads here. Caliph Nodin gets first prize!!

Tail Docker · 10-09-2014 06:36PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

There's nothing funny here about Islamic fascists, their apologisers and bullies like Nodin who always down others' viewpoints. I never have engaged in first off insults like some of you have and I have met (thankfully not in real life!) some of the most ignorant bigots on ISIS, etc. related threads here. Caliph Nodin gets first prize!!

Until they come storming up the pier at Dun Laoghaire, I have other stuff to get excited about. Like what's for dinner.

Donkey Oaty · 10-09-2014 06:37PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Go to ISIS controlled Iraq or North Korea if you love totalitarianism so much and leave us alone.

FAO Nodin and Jacksparrow, I'd recommend North Korea over ISIS controlled Iraq.

It's less dusty, and you'd be a big fish in a small pool of Westerners, have less chance of getting shot, plus you can drink alcohol when it's available, and apparently smoke weed semi-legally (source: Guardian report).

It'd be Glenfarne with kimchi.

KERSPLAT! · 10-09-2014 07:51PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

There's nothing funny here about Islamic fascists, their apologisers and bullies like Nodin who always down others' viewpoints. I never have engaged in first off insults like some of you have and I have met (thankfully not in real life!) some of the most ignorant bigots on ISIS, etc. related threads here. Caliph Nodin gets first prize!!

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Religious Fanaticism in Ireland

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