Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Harry Palmr · 03-09-2014 11:49PM

Next summer I take it or is he being released now? That makes no sense at all.

daithijjj · 03-09-2014 11:56PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Next summer I take it or is he being released now? That makes no sense at all.

From what i gather, he had proposals from a few clubs, he chose Milan (Di Marzio).

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/milan-are-confident-about-being-able-to-sign-liverpools-suso-for-next-season/

~Rebel~ · 03-09-2014 11:58PM

Disappointing.

Even a buy back clause would mean little to be honest - if he does well enough that we'd want to use it, he'd likely turn down the move back to us, much like how Carlos Vela apparently had no interest in a return to Arsenal because things were going better where he was.

Harry Palmr · 03-09-2014 11:59PM

Must head to ForzaInter forums, they might wonder about a lad called Coutinho as they digest this news.

Doh!

daithijjj · 04-09-2014 12:11AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Disappointing.

Even a buy back clause would mean little to be honest - if he does well enough that we'd want to use it, he'd likely turn down the move back to us, much like how Carlos Vela apparently had no interest in a return to Arsenal because things were going better where he was.

I suppose one way to look at it is from the point of view that we have let young players go before that we were disappointed to be losing but not one of them has gone on to a level near good enough for us right now.

Suso is a tidy little player but imho Teixeira is/will be better.

dogbert27 · 04-09-2014 12:15AM

5live wrote: »

But we all get milkshakes too, right?

RIGHT?

We sure do! :pac:

googled eyes · 04-09-2014 08:44AM

https://vine.co/v/hEAPHhqLjtd

whatawaster · 04-09-2014 08:55AM

Disappointing.

Sterling has been the best youth player I can remember at Liverpool in all my time watching football at those levels. Suso is the only talent who comes anyway close imo.

Dickerty · 04-09-2014 09:00AM

mosstin wrote: »

Hodgson in rare form after the match tonight. Asked about only 2 shots on target, he responded "Only 2 shots on target? What about the shots people threw themselves in front of?"
Well, they wouldn't have been on target then Roy.

He's actually right though. Take that vine on the previous page, that's not considered a shot on target cause it was blocked. There were a LOT of those last night, England made a good number of chances. Still very little control in midfield, but when they got it up to S&S, they were dangerous...

Dickerty · 04-09-2014 09:01AM

whatawaster wrote: »

Disappointing.

Sterling has been the best youth player I can remember at Liverpool in all my time watching football at those levels. Suso is the only talent who comes anyway close imo.

I dunno - if you watched him last season, he wasn't so good that you'd be wow'd by him. He had a good season for a young player, but if we didn't already have him on our books, he wasn't so good that you'd sign him up on that basis...

D'Agger · 04-09-2014 09:08AM

I think Tex will be a better player than Suso so not overly sad to see him go, that said, watching the academy produce players, you want to see them do well and get a chance & Suso is one of the best players we've had come through the ranks in the past few years - Sterling obviously being the gem that made it

8-10 · 04-09-2014 09:09AM

whatawaster wrote: »

Disappointing.

Sterling has been the best youth player I can remember at Liverpool in all my time watching football at those levels. Suso is the only talent who comes anyway close imo.

Suso is not anyway close to Sterling

D'Agger · 04-09-2014 09:11AM

8-10 wrote: »

Suso is not anyway close to Sterling

Not now obviously but when they were playing in the youth academy they were the two players to watch

Chip Whitley · 04-09-2014 09:15AM

8-10 wrote: »

Suso is not anyway close to Sterling

Well Sterling has had a great run in a free-flowing team and Suso hasn't.

D'Agger · 04-09-2014 09:16AM

Brendão wrote: »

Well Sterling has had a great run in a free-flowing team and Suso hasn't.

That's your own fault

8-10 · 04-09-2014 09:17AM

Brendão wrote: »

Well Sterling has had a great run in a free-flowing team and Suso hasn't.

There's a reason for that.

Harry Palmr · 04-09-2014 09:27AM

Suso's temperament seems a bit suspect, he'll probably mature but over the last 18 months or so its held him back.

Agree about Texieira, just a pity that Coutinho, Lallana and Sterling are all ahead of him.

Dickerty · 04-09-2014 09:55AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Suso's temperament seems a bit suspect, he'll probably mature but over the last 18 months or so its held him back.

Agree about Texieira, just a pity that Coutinho, Lallana and Sterling are all ahead of him.

If Teix is good enough, we'll find room for him. We brought Sterling in as a winger, played him side of the main striker, and now more often as a #10.
If they are good enough, well find a way to play them...

04-09-2014 10:06AM

It's amazing how some players just kick on and others fall away.

Hopefully he goes on to be a decent player

tok9 · 04-09-2014 10:22AM

I really liked Suso.

If he does go it'd be a shame if we don't have some kind of buy back or % of next transfer in there.

sweetie · 04-09-2014 10:23AM

Hope Suso doesn't do a Pogba on us although I wish him well.

Pyjamarama · 04-09-2014 10:33AM

I don't think the work that Raheem has put in, in the gym can be understated. What's seperated him from the other talented youngsters his age is that he can win physical battles at the top level. At underage level a guy like suso can coast by on his superior technical ability and while that ability might translate to the senior level, he'll be coming up against guys who are on another planet in the strength department to what you face at underage.

I think as time goes by we'll start seeing more teams view underage football like nfl teams view college and start looking as much at physical attributes as technical.

RoboRat · 04-09-2014 10:41AM

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

If he can get goals for Sunderland he can get goals for Liverpool. I prefer him to Lambert. I think he fits into the current set up better than Lambert, and he wants his chance at Liverpool, can't fault him for that.

Not necessarily, teams set up differently depending on the opponents. City, Chelsea, United, Arsenal would all set up to win against Sunderland whereas they would not be as open against Liverpool.

Dickerty · 04-09-2014 10:45AM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I don't think the work that Raheem has put in, in the gym can be understated. What's seperated him from the other talented youngsters his age is that he can win physical battles at the top level. At underage level a guy like suso can coast by on his superior technical ability and while that ability might translate to the senior level, he'll be coming up against guys who are on another planet in the strength department to what you face at underage.

Great point. He's a power-house, huge gluts and thighs so he can explode away from players. That's something you see when he plays central, he takes the ball static and within 2 seconds is away and in space. And he has the balance to go either way past a player.

I am not even kidding when I say he could be as good as Messi. COULD be.
He has the speed, the vision for a pass, the strength on the ball, and goes past defenders for fun.

And he's only 19, with 2 years of top flight experience.
If he can develop his finishing (and he's not bad already), there is very little that can stop him...

Chip Whitley · 04-09-2014 11:05AM

8-10 wrote: »

There's a reason for that.

Care to elaborate?

MonkeyTennis · 04-09-2014 11:19AM

Albert Morenos wiki page.

klose · 04-09-2014 11:19AM

sweetie wrote: »

Hope Suso doesn't do a Pogba on us although I wish him well.

Susos position(s) are pretty stacked at the moment and its hard to make a valid arguement on why he should be playing, fergie played defenders in pogbas position and still wouldnt play him so its a different situation, im sure he would like to stay and see if he gets his chance but he has his head screwed on and knows he needs first team football. Heres hoping for teixiera in any case!

Underpaid Mike · 04-09-2014 11:20AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Albert Morenos wiki page.

Very descriptive
"Alberto Moreno Pérez (Spanish pronunciation: [alˈβerto moˈɾeno ˈpeɾeθ]; born 5 July 1992) is a Spanish professional footballer who plays for Liverpool as a left back. He was created when Stevie G pumped his man juice into Xabi Alonso's waxed bottom cavity, observed and instigated by Brendan Rodgers." :eek:

dogbert27 · 04-09-2014 11:21AM

Is Suso going the way of Pacheco?

D'Agger · 04-09-2014 11:23AM

dogbert27 wrote: »

Is Suso going the way of Pacheco?

Not really based on the club he's moving to...

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