Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

01-09-2014 09:47AM

Betfair odds on Falcao:

No transfer: 1/20

Utd: 12/1

Something is not right

CSF · 01-09-2014 09:47AM

United are just becoming a joke at this stage, even if they were to sign a pacey striker, you could kind of understand it.

SherlockWatson · 01-09-2014 09:49AM

Signing a World Class striker on loan to replace RVP who is due out for surgery, doesn't make United a joke.

Quazzie · 01-09-2014 09:52AM

tok9 wrote: »

United are honestly just the Real Madrid of England at the moment. Buying "Galacticos" when they so badly need to invest elsewhere.

LOL. Is Shaw a Galactico now?
Over paying for players does not a Galactico make

shrewdness · 01-09-2014 09:52AM

tok9 wrote: »

United are honestly just the Real Madrid of England at the moment. Buying "Galacticos" when they so badly need to invest elsewhere.

Only Di Maria and Falcao could fall into that "galactico" category, and Utd badly needed a player like Di Maria, an attacking player with pace, and he can also play in a midfield 3. Falcao has come out of the blue but if the rumours of RVP needing surgery are true, along with the departures of Hernandez and maybe Welbeck, Utd need another striker. Every signing made by Utd this summer was needed, such was the scale of the rebuild which was required. Two more player are needed to complete the team really, a dominating centre back and a physical defensive midfielder. But it's good business done so far.

death1234567 · 01-09-2014 09:54AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Betfair odds on Falcao:
Something is not right

Maybe a loan doesn't count as a transfer.

CSF · 01-09-2014 09:54AM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Signing a World Class striker on loan to replace RVP who is due out for surgery, doesn't make United a joke.

How longs Van Persie going to be out for a month?

It does when you're crap in most areas of the pitch.

Will I Amnt · 01-09-2014 09:55AM

HazDanz wrote: »

Did you watch the game last night? It was shocking. Team completely unbalanced.

2 games in with a few players to bed in and no Ronaldo. The defensive side of midfield will be addressed.

Dickerty · 01-09-2014 09:55AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Does the payout remain the same if CL is missed out again? I'd imagine those mega deals have something in the contract for such scenarios

Yes, I believe that's the case, but not a huge % of the total...

01-09-2014 09:55AM

death1234567 wrote: »

Maybe a loan doesn't count as a transfer.

Yeah one of the lads in the Utd thread just pointed that out. Probably it alright

sabat · 01-09-2014 09:58AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Does the payout remain the same if CL is missed out again? I'd imagine those mega deals have something in the contract for such scenarios

The adidas deal alone is worth £30m less if they don't get top 4 this season. If they don't get at least 6 points from their next nine, which with the way they're playing is doubtful, I reckon they'll miss out again.

That_Guy · 01-09-2014 09:59AM

Newcastle need a defender and a striker.

We will get nobody.

S'alright though because Cisse and Yanga M'biwa will be like "new signings" even though they're simply not up to it.

Ambition. Sure who the fúck needs that anyway?

RayCun · 01-09-2014 10:03AM

sabat wrote: »

The adidas deal alone is worth £30m less if they don't get top 4 this season. If they don't get at least 6 points from their next nine, which with the way they're playing is doubtful, I reckon they'll miss out again.

If United don't get Champions league football for two successive seasons - after the start of the deal, so not including this season - they will only get £52.5 million a season.
The poor mites.

tok9 · 01-09-2014 10:06AM

shrewdness wrote: »

Only Di Maria and Falcao could fall into that "galactico" category, and Utd badly needed a player like Di Maria, an attacking player with pace, and he can also play in a midfield 3. Falcao has come out of the blue but if the rumours of RVP needing surgery are true, along with the departures of Hernandez and maybe Welbeck, Utd need another striker. Every signing made by Utd this summer was needed, such was the scale of the rebuild which was required. Two more player are needed to complete the team really, a dominating centre back and a physical defensive midfielder. But it's good business done so far.

I would argue Mata was another one.

Dickerty · 01-09-2014 10:09AM

That_Guy wrote: »

Newcastle need a defender and a striker.

We will get nobody.

S'alright though because Cisse and Yanga M'biwa will be like "new signings" even though they're simply not up to it.

Ambition. Sure who the fúck needs that anyway?

I feel for you! As a Pool far, we had a few very testing years under previous ownership. But you guys have had it far worse...

HazDanz · 01-09-2014 10:10AM

Anyone feel like this is SSN coverage of deadline day? It's cringy.

Johner · 01-09-2014 10:14AM

Falcao is a quality signing for United but if they don't get a centre half and a centre midfielder in I still think they will struggle to get top 4. Vlaar and Carvalho would be 2 great additions.

sabat · 01-09-2014 10:16AM

RayCun wrote: »

If United don't get Champions league football for two successive seasons - after the start of the deal, so not including this season - they will only get £52.5 million a season.
The poor mites.

Yes, but all these signings are being budgeted around the presumption of a return to the CL. Throw in tv, gate money and other sponsorships and it's probably the guts of 100m down if they don't qualify. United fans should also take a sobering look at the history of big money transfers in the premier league-a large majority have been huge flops.

Ulysses Gaze · 01-09-2014 10:17AM

Any sign of 'Arry yet?

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Falcao is a quality signing for United but if they don't get a centre half and a centre midfielder in I still think they will struggle to get top 4. Vlaar and Carvalho would be 2 great additions.

They need at least one centre half and a ball winning midfielder.

Whilst Falcao is a great striker, it seems to be a vanity purchase.

Benzino · 01-09-2014 10:23AM

I think it's a great bit of business by Utd, pricey for a loan but they have the money, so why not? Questions as to whether he will regain his previous form after the injury, but since it's a loan it reduces the risk greatly. I wanted him at Liverpool, and I know many others did, and didn't mind the reported loan fees either, he is one of the best strikers in the world.

It doesn't address Utd's problems, but I think it buys them some time to look for the right players to fix their issues. You just have to look at Liverpool last season, we had a poor defense but still managed to come second due to our quality in attack. I see no reason why Utd can't do the same with quality like Di Maria and Falcao (even if their midfield is weaker than Liverpool's IMO).

And if RVP is out, it makes perfect sense. Great move for them

Edit: By no means am I saying Utd will finish second, but it'll definitely help them challenge for top 4 spot.

RayCun · 01-09-2014 10:27AM

sabat wrote: »

Yes, but all these signings are being budgeted around the presumption of a return to the CL. Throw in tv, gate money and other sponsorships and it's probably the guts of 100m down if they don't qualify. United fans should also take a sobering look at the history of big money transfers in the premier league-a large majority have been huge flops.

No, maybe 40 million a year total lost, 50 tops. Most of the deals are not CL dependent. United are still raking in the sponsorship money .

Edit: That 40-50 million is during the Adidas period. Reports put the cost to United of being out of the CL this year at about 20 million.

That_Guy · 01-09-2014 10:32AM

Shane Duffy gone to Blackburn.

SherlockWatson · 01-09-2014 10:36AM

CSF wrote: »

How longs Van Persie going to be out for a month?

It does when you're crap in most areas of the pitch.

Please, give me an area where we are crap? Shouldn't be too hard considering we are apparently "crap in most areas"?

ASOT · 01-09-2014 10:38AM

That_Guy wrote: »

Shane Duffy gone to Blackburn.

I like Shane hes a nice lad, taught he would make it at Everton but i think hes just slightly under the ability. Will be a tidy player for Blackburn.

Harry Palmr · 01-09-2014 10:39AM

Marco Verratti from PSG to Real Madrid

SherlockWatson · 01-09-2014 10:40AM

Brendan Filone wrote: »

Saw this elsewhere-

United getting Falcao and Di Maria is the equivalent of giving somebody who needs heart surgery fake tits. Looks nice, but isn't what's needed.

Perfect synopsis!!

That's not a synopsis and it's also a terrible analogy.

That_Guy · 01-09-2014 10:44AM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Please, give me an area where we are crap? Shouldn't be too hard considering we are apparently "crap in most areas"?

SherlockWatson wrote: »

That's not a synopsis and it's also a terrible analogy.

Will I Amnt · 01-09-2014 10:45AM

Brendan Filone wrote: »

Saw this elsewhere-

United getting Falcao and Di Maria is the equivalent of giving somebody who needs heart surgery fake tits. Looks nice, but isn't what's needed.

Perfect synopsis!!

Herrera and Blind are central midfielders so it's like getting a heart and fake tits as a bonus.

SherlockWatson · 01-09-2014 10:45AM

That_Guy wrote: »

Gifs should be banned if they don't accompany words.

That_Guy · 01-09-2014 10:46AM

Just saw this on Twitter.

'So Man Utd have replaced Van Persie before Arsenal have replaced Van Persie'
(Rikki Clarke, Cricketer).

Brilliant.

Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

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