Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

Paully D · 28-08-2014 01:28PM

Zaha is another in a long list of self-entitled young players who think they've done everything there is to do in the game after signing for a big club. With the money he's on, I guess can't blame him.

Story in the Guardian a few weeks back that van Gaal had a "voluntary" training session on a Saturday morning when he first arrived at the club. The only player not to turn up was Zaha. :pac:

Reports suggest that Pulis left Palace because they wanted to bring in Zaha but Pulis didn't want him and his attitude (or lack of) in his dressing room.

eh i dunno · 28-08-2014 02:51PM

Hull and villa have bid 9m for cleverly. Madness

hadepsx · 28-08-2014 02:57PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

Hull and villa have bid 9m for cleverly. Madness

U could say its not very clever(ly) of them

28-08-2014 02:57PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

Hull and villa have bid 9m for cleverly. Madness

I presume that's rupees

KERSPLAT! · 28-08-2014 03:00PM

He was brilliant for Wigan when on loan there, if he could find that form again he could do well in a lower to mid table team IMO

TitianGerm · 28-08-2014 03:05PM

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

He was brilliant for Wigan when on loan there, if he could find that form again he could do well in a lower to mid table team IMO

He should stay where he is so

I kid I kid. I expect United to be there abouts for CL this year.

Johner · 28-08-2014 03:12PM

I think Cleverley could turn out to be a good signing for one of those sides, there is no way back for him at United but he is actually a decent player and a fresh start at a new club is exactly what he needs.

Hangballlouie · 28-08-2014 03:19PM

My Utd supporting mate always slates Cleverly and his performances probably justify it but I've always said that if he got a move to a club like Villa he could be a very good player again. I'll get slated for saying that but I do think there is a good player in him and he has shown it at times. He isn't international/top 4 level, but just underneath IMO.

Smithwicks Man · 28-08-2014 03:19PM

£9m for Cleverley is madness.

Hangballlouie · 28-08-2014 03:22PM

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

£9m for Cleverley is madness.

Not in today's market it isn't.

LostBoy101 · 28-08-2014 03:22PM

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

£9m for Cleverley is madness.

To be honest if I was Ed I'd take it and run for the hills.

Blatter · 28-08-2014 03:27PM

He's in the last year of his contract too.

KERSPLAT! · 28-08-2014 03:31PM

It's on BBC that he's willing to run down his contract. You'd think he'd want to be playing week in week out, though there's obviously gonna be a pay cut

Smithwicks Man · 28-08-2014 03:38PM

hangballlouie wrote: »

Not in today's market it isn't.

Yes even in today's market. Every player's price hasn't magically gone up 30%+ because of a few big transfers.

Why would you pay £9m for him when United would more than likely accept £5m?

He's in his last year of contract as well? I refuse to believe any team is stupid enough to pay £9m for him.

Hangballlouie · 28-08-2014 03:49PM

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Yes even in today's market. Every player's price hasn't magically gone up 30%+ because of a few big transfers.

Why would you pay £9m for him when United would more than likely accept £5m?

He's in his last year of contract as well? I refuse to believe any team is stupid enough to pay £9m for him.

But there is, that's the market right now. Ludicrous I know but it's fact. Two teams want him, the price rises.

astonaidan · 28-08-2014 04:03PM

Johner wrote: »

I think Cleverley could turn out to be a good signing for one of those sides, there is no way back for him at United but he is actually a decent player and a fresh start at a new club is exactly what he needs.

Id be happy with Cleverley at Villa, think hes not as bad as people are making out. Hed do well at Villa in a 3 man midfield

MisterAnarchy · 28-08-2014 04:21PM

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

£9m for Cleverley is madness.

No its not ,he is an English international and a Man Utd player.
I'll tell you whats madness though ,£25m for Lallana ,£30m for Milner or £20m for Stewart Downing .

Quazzie · 28-08-2014 04:45PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

No its not ,he is an English international and a Man Utd player.
I'll tell you whats madness though ,£25m for Lallana ,£30m for Milner or £20m for Stewart Downing .

Ah it is a bit mad though Ted!

Corholio · 28-08-2014 05:08PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

No its not ,he is an English international and a Man Utd player.
I'll tell you whats madness though ,£25m for Lallana ,£30m for Milner or £20m for Stewart Downing .

No one payed £30m for Milner though. Agreed with the rest though.

28-08-2014 05:09PM

Cleverley has been basically playing on his own against 3 midfielders in his recent United history, has a good touch and quick passing. With proper support he could prosper.

tupac_healy · 28-08-2014 05:36PM

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

He was brilliant for Wigan when on loan there, if he could find that form again he could do well in a lower to mid table team IMO

Well if he stays around he may not have to move the way we are headed ha!!

I joke before everyone looses their minds!

Montroseee · 28-08-2014 05:43PM

Liam O wrote: »

Cleverley has been basically playing on his own against 3 midfielders in his recent United history, has a good touch and quick passing. With proper support he could prosper.

This post is utter rubbish. He's been awful and has had his chances, there can be no credible excuses made for him.

Smithwicks Man · 28-08-2014 05:51PM

hangballlouie wrote: »

But there is, that's the market right now. Ludicrous I know but it's fact. Two teams want him, the price rises.

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

No its not ,he is an English international and a Man Utd player.
I'll tell you whats madness though ,£25m for Lallana ,£30m for Milner or £20m for Stewart Downing .

The fact that he plays for united has zero bearing on his value. If anything, it lowers it seeing as he's not good enough to be there and they'd be happy to sell.

I agree with the others but that doesn't change the fact that Cleverley is not worth £9m in current circumstances. You could get a far, far better player from abroad for that.

astonaidan wrote: »

Id be happy with Cleverley at Villa, think hes not as bad as people are making out. Hed do well at Villa in a 3 man midfield

Would you be happy spending that sort of money on him though?

tupac_healy · 28-08-2014 05:51PM

Liam O wrote: »

Cleverley has been basically playing on his own against 3 midfielders in his recent United history, has a good touch and quick passing. With proper support he could prosper.

Or the other player playing CM with him at the time could make the same claim.....

Clev will never make it at Utd, if we want to lay down a 'Di Maria' marker we need a Vidal type in midefield, not a player with constant question marks over every aspect of his game

MisterAnarchy · 28-08-2014 06:17PM

Corholio wrote: »

No one payed £30m for Milner though. Agreed with the rest though.

It was £26-28m plus Stephen Ireland I think.

You could get a far, far better player from abroad for that.

But that is always the case with English players ,they cost alot more than they are actually worth.

Smithwicks Man · 28-08-2014 06:20PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

But that is always the case with English players ,they cost alot more than they are actually worth.

And I will continue to share my bemusement every time it happens.

I mean, why buy him if he's going to cost that much when he's clearly not worth it?

28-08-2014 06:21PM

tupac_healy wrote: »

Or the other player playing CM with him at the time could make the same claim.....

Clev will never make it at Utd, if we want to lay down a 'Di Maria' marker we need a Vidal type in midefield, not a player with constant question marks over every aspect of his game

He normally played with Carrick and as much as I like Carrick he always lay deep. Rooney in front of him is basically a striker so created wide open space in the middle that the other team could gang up on him. He's looked good beside a player that will support him and stay close to him and when Welbeck was in front of him dropping deep. It's no coincidence.

eagle eye · 28-08-2014 07:43PM

Montroseee wrote: »

This post is utter rubbish. He's been awful and has had his chances, there can be no credible excuses made for him.

Meanwhile he has been regularly picked by Alex Ferguson, David Moyes and now Louis Van Gaal. I suppose those guys have no clue about who the best footballers at their club are?

Paully D · 28-08-2014 08:08PM

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

£9m for Cleverley is madness.

Especially when you consider the below:

Blatter wrote: »

He's in the last year of his contract too.

He may well become a decent player for a side who have top ten aspirations at best and at worst are relegation candidates (e.g., Villa and Hull) but £9m for someone who is about 4th choice at his club when everyone is available, with 10 months left on his deal, is big money.

Kirby · 28-08-2014 08:09PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Meanwhile he has been regularly picked by Alex Ferguson, David Moyes and now Louis Van Gaal. I suppose those guys have no clue about who the best footballers at their club are?

Would he start for the MK Dons though? That's the real question.

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