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P. Breathnach · 14-08-2014 10:18AM

artful_codger wrote: »

Traveller student? Check.
Immigrant student? Check.
Special needs student? Check.

Well, Brian O'Connell has met his quota of persecuted minorities for this week.

That's mean-spirited bolloxology.

The piece was an explicit recognition that success in the LC involves more than those who get a full hand of A1s. It presented people who coped with being in difficult circumstances, but got decent results anyway. Quite the converse of focusing on any persecuted minority status.

neris · 14-08-2014 10:44AM

another feckin healthy eating do gooder. all these nice airy fairy ideas that dont affect her

artful_codger · 14-08-2014 10:55AM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

That's mean-spirited bolloxology.

The piece was an explicit recognition that success in the LC involves more than those who get a full hand of A1s. It presented people who coped with being in difficult circumstances, but got decent results anyway. Quite the converse of focusing on any persecuted minority status.

There are plenty of students doing their leaving cert under much more difficult circumstances than a Traveller or an Immigrant, but Brian O'Connell isn't interested in them because he's shamelessly pushing his multi-cultural diversity spiel as usual. He's not a journalist, he's a propagandist, and not a very subtle one.

neris · 14-08-2014 10:59AM

artful_codger wrote: »

There are plenty of students doing their leaving cert under much more difficult circumstances than a Traveller or an Immigrant, but Brian O'Connell isn't interested in them because he's shamelessly pushing his multi-cultural diversity spiel as usual. He's not a journalist, he's a propagandist, and not a very subtle one.

Its called rte being PC and not trying to offend anyone.

Callan57 · 14-08-2014 11:00AM

That Prof O'Brien is talking a hell of a lot of sense

P. Breathnach · 14-08-2014 11:40AM

neris wrote: »

Its called rte being PC and not trying to offend anyone.

It's clearly offending some people here.

If somebody from a disadvantaged background does badly in life, there are people who say that their disadvantaged background is no excuse; if somebody from a disadvantaged background does well, there are people who get annoyed that it is celebrated as a good thing.

Is it a bad thing that a Traveller girl got her Leaving Certificate? Is it a bad thing to take note of it?

Callan57 · 19-08-2014 09:07AM

Ronan Mullen ..... that's me gone :mad:

IvyTheTerrible · 19-08-2014 09:11AM

God this guy is maddening!

neris · 19-08-2014 09:17AM

Clare Daly & Ronan Mullen 2 detestable individuals preaching their expertise & knowledge on whats best for the little women of Ireland

IvyTheTerrible · 19-08-2014 09:19AM

neris wrote: »

Clare Daly & Ronan Mullen 2 detestable individuals preaching their expertise & knowledge on whats best for the little women of Ireland

Well the little women of Ireland are clearly incapable of deciding anything for themselves, so we need those nice people to do it for us.

touts · 19-08-2014 09:21AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Ronan Mullen ..... that's me gone :mad:

Listening to Ronan Mullen and Claire Daly is soul destroying.

neris · 19-08-2014 09:32AM

jaysus only farmers think that coz a foreign market is closed off to European products they should get payments from Europe & state Governments. Wonder if the ruskies ban cars will Merc, BMW & Audi be going cap in hand to Brussels

CountyHurler · 19-08-2014 09:41AM

touts wrote: »

Listening to Ronan Mullen and Claire Daly is soul destroying.

It's fine for Clare Daly and the Rape Crisis Centre to stand on the ditch, criticising the Government/doctors/legislation ... If you put the knife in their hand, told them to kill the child, it would be a different story..

who's to say that if the doctors had carried out the abortion, that in three weeks the woman (who was under stress) wouldnt come back to them and say "I was mentally unwell and you killed my child". As usual with these types of cases, people with extreme views use the event as something to push their own agenda.

L1011 · 19-08-2014 09:46AM

CountyHurler wrote: »

If you put the knife in their hand, told them to kill the child, it would be a different story..

Abortions are not carried out with a knife.

At 8 weeks, it would have been a case of administering mifepristone - tablets, taken orally. At a later date it would have been vacuum aspiration, the type normally done when 'taking the boat' due to not hanging around for the after checkups required for mifepristone.

hotmail.com · 19-08-2014 10:13AM

CountyHurler wrote: »

It's fine for Clare Daly and the Rape Crisis Centre to stand on the ditch, criticising the Government/doctors/legislation ... If you put the knife in their hand, told them to kill the child, it would be a different story..

who's to say that if the doctors had carried out the abortion, that in three weeks the woman (who was under stress) wouldnt come back to them and say "I was mentally unwell and you killed my child". As usual with these types of cases, people with extreme views use the event as something to push their own agenda.

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Rather odd take on the events to say the least.

Jadaol · 19-08-2014 12:54PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

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Rather odd take on the events to say the least.

not really. pretty logical

Callan57 · 19-08-2014 01:31PM

Jadaol wrote: »

not really. pretty logical

Can't see the logic to be honest - same as any other operation/treatment. Any patient could come back and say "I was stressed" when I gave my premission for that opp or treatment.
Difference here is some people want to treat a woman, if she is pregnant, as some kind of mental incompetent who is to be considered incapable of rationally making a decision about her own health/welfare & her opinion is no longer to be afforded the respect any other person is automatically entitled to.
Absolute barbarism :mad:

hotmail.com · 19-08-2014 01:37PM

Callan57 wrote: »

Can't see the logic to be honest - same as any other operation/treatment. Any patient could come back and say "I was stressed" when I gave my premission for that opp or treatment.
Difference here is some people want to treat a woman, if she is pregnant, as some kind of mental incompetent who is to be considered incapable of rationally making a decision about her own health/welfare & her opinion is no longer to be afforded the respect any other person is automatically entitled to.
Absolute barbarism :mad:

Thanks for explaining it.

CountyHurler · 19-08-2014 07:54PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Rather odd take on the events to say the least.

You dont agree? Well that's reassuring at least.. Cos the day I find myself on the same side of an argument as yourself is the day that I would stop worrying about the mental health of an immigrant rape victim, and start worrying about my own...

And I dont find your smart ar$e remarks constructive or funny...

CountyHurler · 19-08-2014 07:58PM

MYOB wrote: »

Abortions are not carried out with a knife.

I meant that in a King Solomon sort of way.. I dont actually think that abortions are carried out with knives...

hotmail.com · 19-08-2014 08:05PM

CountyHurler wrote: »

You dont agree? Well that's reassuring at least.. Cos the day I find myself on the same side of an argument as yourself is the day that I would stop worrying about the mental health of an immigrant rape victim, and start worrying about my own...

And I dont find your smart ar$e remarks constructive or funny...

Major pet kettle. The whole post is pot kettle!

Not constructive, not funny and an attempt at being smart! lol

Callan57 · 20-08-2014 10:46AM

Unintended LOL moment there - Sean to Dr Andrew Rynne while discussing vasectomy .... "Are you still on active service?"

:)

hullaballoo · 20-08-2014 11:42AM

CountyHurler wrote: »

And I dont find your smart ar$e remarks constructive or funny...

hotmail.com wrote: »

Major pet kettle. The whole post is pot kettle!

Not constructive, not funny and an attempt at being smart! lol

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CountyHurler · 27-08-2014 09:32AM

"How I won the war" by Charlie Bird.

P. Breathnach · 27-08-2014 09:45AM

CountyHurler wrote: »

"How I won the war" by Charlie Bird.

It was more like "How the IRA used me as a conduit", and I thought it interesting. In general, I am not a fan of Charlie Bird, but today's piece was good. He often goes over the top, but in this piece he resisted the temptation. I suppose he recognised that the story was strong enough, and needed no embellishment.

Callan57 · 27-08-2014 10:04AM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

It was more like "How the IRA used me as a conduit", and I thought it interesting. In general, I am not a fan of Charlie Bird, but today's piece was good. He often goes over the top, but in this piece he resisted the temptation. I suppose he recognised that the story was strong enough, and needed no embellishment.

Agree, I though Charlie was unusually restrained.
An IRA man up close must have been fairly terrifying to a guy who was scared sh1tless at a polar bear 100 miles away

Callan57 · 27-08-2014 10:47AM

Odd the way guys just can't talk about illness without making silly unoriginal jokes .. must be a fierce pain in the butt for the medical specialists.
Grow up guys!

CountyHurler · 27-08-2014 11:35AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Odd the way guys just can't talk about illness without making silly unoriginal jokes

Well, yer man is a comedian, purportedly. But I agree completely, every one of his jokes went down like a lead balloon..

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-08-2014 09:32AM

Still arguing and the sick children are dying

Callan57 · 29-08-2014 09:33AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Still arguing and the sick children are dying

Would they just build the damn thing & stop talking about it

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