Rotherham child sex ring

truffle5 · 26-08-2014 07:58PM

Candie wrote: »

Not whataboutery. It's been the case that child sex rings have operated without police action regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

I don't think you get to tell people what to talk about either.

Oh so we can chat about cornflakes in the thread I presume? No - the topic is the Pakistani pedophile rings that have abused a horrifying 1400 children in England with impunity for over a decade. You can be banned for going off-topic.

The more pertinent question is: why are you trying to obstruct discussion of this news piece?

GLaDOS · 26-08-2014 07:59PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

How the fcuk did the father trying to recover his child, end up getting arrested?? That goes beyond inept, that's fcuking complicit.

I'd really like to know what exactly happened there myself

P_1 · 26-08-2014 07:59PM

Disgusting. Also I'm not buying the 'afraid of being seen as racist' line for a second. Clearly a member of this sick ring was in a high enough position to be able to impede on the investigation.

Ranchu · 26-08-2014 07:59PM

The South Yorkshire Police aren't having a great couple of years. Cover up for Hillsborough exposed and now this. Saps.

26-08-2014 07:59PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I cannot wrap my head around that at all. How does it even happen once let alone multiple times?

The girls could have objected to being taken away and complained as such to the cops. Abused kids often identify with their abusers, as a form of Stockholm Syndrome, and possibly with the use of the kind of threats as detailed in the linked article. Terrorised people have difficulty in maintaining a rational perspective

Assuming the girls in question were over 18, of course.

26-08-2014 08:01PM

truffle5 wrote: »

Oh so we can chat about cornflakes in the thread I presume? No - the topic is the Pakistani pedophile rings that have abused a horrifying 1400 children in England with impunity for over a decade. You can be banned for going off-topic.

The more pertinent question is: why are you trying to obstruct discussion of this news piece?

Give over.

The fact is that these abuses aren't limited to gangs of any particular background. Insisting the discussion is limited to one ethnic group is telling.

ceadaoin. · 26-08-2014 08:02PM

truffle5 wrote: »

Whataboutery. We're talking about the endemic abuse of white children at the hands of Pakistani pimps. Stick to the topic.

Well a poster asserted it was fear of being labelled racist that prevented the police from taking action. I disagree with that, as other similar but not predominantly Asian, abuse rings have been uncovered where no police action was taken despite victims coming forward.

It makes me feel sick that child abuse is so rampant in society, does it really matter what ethnicity the perpetrators are? Nothing was done to help these and other kids and it's sickening.

My name is URL · 26-08-2014 08:03PM

Candie wrote: »

The girls could have objected to being taken away and complained as such to the cops. Abused kids often identify with their abusers, as a form of Stockholm Syndrome, and possibly with the use of the kind of threats as detailed in the linked article. Terrorised people have difficulty in maintaining a rational perspective

Assuming the girls in question were over 18, of course.

But even so, surely police would investigate the matter if the men were genuinely claiming that the girls were their daughters... not just show up, make an arrest and then forget about it.

Mind boggling stuff.

Tail Docker · 26-08-2014 08:03PM

Candie wrote: »

The girls could have objected to being taken away and complained as such to the cops. Abused kids often identify with their abusers, as a form of Stockholm Syndrome, and possibly with the use of the kind of threats as detailed in the linked article. Terrorised people have difficulty in maintaining a rational perspective

Assuming the girls in question were over 18, of course.

Child sex ring. Hence likely <18. So the parent finds where his child is being held, causes a scene and the police arrest him and leave the child with her abusers? i really don't care about the semantics, that's just utterly, despicably, stomach churningly wrong on a million levels. There's should be a raft of dismissals. Not fit for purpose.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 26-08-2014 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Mod

OP, I want you to explain exactly what you mean by that PC brigade sentence. Please.

Dont think he or she is coming back, to be honest.

26-08-2014 08:05PM

My name is URL wrote: »

But even so, surely police would investigate the matter if the men were genuinely claiming that the girls were their daughters... not just show up, make an arrest and then forget about it.

Mind boggling stuff.

It does make you wonder how complicit the police might have been. The certainly dismissed many complaints about Savile over the years.

truffle5 · 26-08-2014 08:05PM

Unbelievable. I didn't think anybody would be so low, so warped, so neurotic as to engage in whataboutery in such a serious case. Every single one of the 11 men arrested was Pakistani. This is a fact. You can't spin this to blame straight white males.

Immigration needs to be seriously curtailed from these countries. Pakistan is a relatively uncivilized third world country and they don't share the same respect for women or children that most of us do in the West.

statesaver · 26-08-2014 08:07PM

How is it racist to identify the race of someone?

Tipsy McSwagger · 26-08-2014 08:10PM

statesaver wrote: »

How is it racist to identify the race of someone?

In Britain you can only be racist if you are a white person*.

Edit -By the media

El Weirdo · 26-08-2014 08:10PM

statesaver wrote: »

How is it racist to identify the race of someone?

It isn't, but it is racist to suggest that the reason the perpetrators carried out this crime was solely due to their ethnicity, and not just the fact that they are scumbags.

Links234 · 26-08-2014 08:12PM

truffle5 wrote: »

Unbelievable. I didn't think anybody would be so low, so warped, so neurotic as to engage in whataboutery in such a serious case. Every single one of the 11 men arrested was Pakistani. This is a fact. You can't spin this to blame straight white males.

Immigration needs to be seriously curtailed from these countries. Pakistan is a relatively uncivilized third world country and they don't share the same respect for women or children that most of us do in the West.

And I'm shocked that anyone could be so disguting, so warped as to take a case like this and twist it into a stick to beat the so-called "PC Brigade" with, AND further denigrate everyone from a different country as uncivilized, as if we didn't have our own Catholic child rapists being constantly covered up for and investigations impeded. No, clearly this is a problem with them uncivilized brown people, obviously :rolleyes:

I'm actually seriously ****ing angry reading this pile of drivel.

truffle5 · 26-08-2014 08:13PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

It isn't, but it is racist to suggest that the reason the perpetrators carried out this crime was solely due to their ethnicity, and not just the fact that they are scumbags.

That's too simplistic. You're willfully ignoring patterns that can help us prevent this sort of abuse happening in the future. Is there something about Pakistani/Islamic culture that would encourage this sort of behavior? I understand child brides and forced marriages are common over in Pakistan. Mohammed himself married a 9 year old child. I personally don't want this sort of "culture" to be inflected upon my daughter.

truffle5 · 26-08-2014 08:14PM

Links234 wrote: »

And I'm shocked that anyone could be so warped as to take a case like this and twist it into a stick to beat the so-called "PC Brigade" with, AND further denigrate everyone from a different country as uncivilized, as if we didn't have our own Catholic child rapists being constantly covered up for and investigations impeded. No, clearly this is a problem with them uncivilized brown people, obviously :rolleyes:

I'm actually seriously ****ing angry reading this pile of drivel.

You don't have the right to not get angry. How about getting outraged at Pakistani pedophile gangs grooming white children for sex rather than getting angry at an internet post?

El Weirdo · 26-08-2014 08:16PM

truffle5 wrote: »

You don't have the right to not get angry. How about getting outraged at Pakistani pedophile gangs grooming white children for sex rather than getting angry at an internet post?

Why not just get outraged at paedophile gangs grooming children? What difference does their ethnicity make?

26-08-2014 08:17PM

truffle5 banned.

Still waiting on hootanany.

Tick tock

P_1 · 26-08-2014 08:18PM

truffle5 wrote: »

That's too simplistic. You're willfully ignoring patterns that can help us prevent this sort of abuse happening in the future. Is there something about Pakistani/Islamic culture that would encourage this sort of behavior? I understand child brides and forced marriages are common over in Pakistan. Mohammed himself married a 9 year old child. I personally don't want this sort of "culture" to be inflected upon my daughter.

Right so while we're on the topic of being too simplistic in your arguments....

A warped sub section of a society doing evil things does not imply that the entirety of said society will also do these evil things because they're part of that society.

Links234 · 26-08-2014 08:18PM

truffle5 wrote: »

You don't have the right to not get angry. How about getting outraged at Pakistani pedophile gangs grooming white children for sex rather than getting angry at an internet post?

I'll get angry at what I want and if I want, your twisted little post is just feigning outrage so you can stick it to those dirty brown savages and PC liberal loonies blah blah.

Bite me

Frank Lee Midere · 26-08-2014 08:18PM

Funny reaction here. It seems clear to me if police are arresting men who go to the house of a child rapist and not the alleged rapists there are reasons other than corruption. Fear of being seen as racist is a possible cause.

El Weirdo · 26-08-2014 08:19PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Funny reaction here. It seems clear to me if police are arresting men who go to the house of a child rapist and not the alleged rapists there are reasons other than corruption. Fear of being seen as racist is a possible cause excuse.

FYP

Cienciano · 26-08-2014 08:19PM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

We get to hate Asians, the police, the UK government, Yorkshire local government, the PC Brigade and paedophiles in the same story.

Something for everyone there.

I reckon the Daily Mail will explode

Hootanany · 26-08-2014 08:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Mod

OP, I want you to explain exactly what you mean by that PC brigade sentence. Please.

I ment these sicko went unchecked because people were afraid that if they said something they would be branded racist.
They are peados plain and simple and i dont like peados.

Hope this is ok.

Ranchu · 26-08-2014 08:22PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Funny reaction here. It seems clear to me if police are arresting men who go to the house of a child rapist and not the alleged rapists there are reasons other than corruption. Fear of being seen as racist is a possible cause.

Why do you think there would be reasons other than corruption? I'm sure they've arrested people of different ethnicities on many occasions.

Sounds like an excuse.

Frank Lee Midere · 26-08-2014 08:22PM

Links234 wrote: »

And I'm shocked that anyone could be so disguting, so warped as to take a case like this and twist it into a stick to beat the so-called "PC Brigade" with, AND further denigrate everyone from a different country as uncivilized, as if we didn't have our own Catholic child rapists being constantly covered up for and investigations impeded. No, clearly this is a problem with them uncivilized brown people, obviously :rolleyes:

I'm actually seriously ****ing angry reading this pile of drivel.

Oh For ****'s sake. What an appalling sh1tload of whataboutary.

You guys remind me of the 80 year olds who think the church has been given a hard time.

Lapin · 26-08-2014 08:23PM

Ranchu wrote: »

The South Yorkshire Police aren't having a great couple of years. Cover up for Hillsborough exposed and now this. Saps.

Couple of years ?

Hillsborough was a quarter of a century ago.

Frank Lee Midere · 26-08-2014 08:26PM

Ranchu wrote: »

Why do you think there would be reasons other than corruption? I'm sure they've arrested people of different ethnicities on many occasions.

Have they? I don't think we know. This police force have probably arrested people for pedeophillia.

What we know is they didn't arrest in these cases. In the Irish cases the police were not corrupt but "turned a blind eye" to reports of abuse. In catholic countries that's because it wasn't politically expedient to arrest priests in 1950-1990. Similarly that's the likely explanation here.

Corruption would mean that the entire police force were paid off by child molesters, or complicit in paediophillia themselves.

I may be naive buts that's a more unlikely scenario.

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