Kick in the Head = Attempted Murder

Sunnyisland · 25-08-2014 03:39PM

emeldc wrote: »

'upmarket resort of Puerto Banus' LOL

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darkdubh · 25-08-2014 03:40PM

I've noticed that you very rarely hear of people being charged with attempted murder in this country and when you do it tends to be for gangland shootings.Theres cases of people being stabbed ten times or kicked within an inch of their life and perpetrater being charged with assault causing harm.

Turtyturd · 25-08-2014 03:42PM

not yet wrote: »

I think it was Liverpool v Arsenal, When they went 5-0 up

Was looking for Williams kicking a ball at Van Persie's head....but that'll do.

con___manx1 · 25-08-2014 03:43PM

thomasm wrote: »

I would love to see a similar attitude taken over here

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/teen-on-attempted-murder-charge-after-fight-30533670.html

You boot someone in the head on the ground you should go to jail. Might make some scum bags think twice. What do you reckon, too severe or a suitable charge.

Kick in the head is serious assault and I think there should be a 2 year sentence. I have only been in one fight in my life. I came out of a nightclub seen my friend getting kicked by 3 guys on the ground. One of them kicking in the head. I hit the guy kicking my friend in the head an uppercut to the jaw. He didn't c it coming. It was a dirty thing to do but I felt he deserved it.my friend ended up in the hospital with the guy I punched. My friend had blood coming from his ear. He had a cat scan turned out they fractured his skull. It could have been a lot worse

Hangballlouie · 25-08-2014 04:05PM

not yet wrote: »

I think it was Liverpool v Arsenal, When they went 5-0 up

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ScumLord · 25-08-2014 04:18PM

Absoluvely wrote: »

Would this new law apply to Taekwondo? A good kick to the head earns you two points and 4 months in jail.

There is no competitive martial art where you're allowed to kick someone in the head while they're on the ground.

Son Of A Vidic · 25-08-2014 05:06PM

Absoluvely wrote: »

Would this new law apply to Taekwondo? A good kick to the head earns you two points and 4 months in jail.

How can you compare the controlled actions of a well trained and disciplined martial artist, to the actions of a drunken street thug? Do you have any idea about the protective equipment that must be worn in a Taekwondo competition? I'm guessing not, otherwise you would have saved yourself such a clueless comment.

Gbear · 25-08-2014 05:09PM

I think part of the problem is that people are somewhat removed from the realities of violence but also exposed to a lot of simulated violence.

I have no intuitive knowledge of how much damage I could do to someone or could be done to me. The only things I have to go by are depictions on TV and in film.

Apparently I can get shot in the chest and soldier on if I'm fairly sound but if I'm a bit of a dickhead then I die immediately instead.

Turtyturd · 25-08-2014 05:10PM

ScumLord wrote: »

There is no competitive martial art where you're allowed to kick someone in the head while they're on the ground.

Pride used to allow them.

SpaceTime · 25-08-2014 05:10PM

It's also normal enough in Spain to be held in custody until a trial date, he'll be likely to spend several months in prison / youth offenders detention centre until the trail date without any question of being bailed out.

Sentencing over there for attempted murder can carry quite a long term too, certainly for an adult anyway it could be anything up to 10 years based on what I've seen from other cases.

It's also (in common with all continental jurisdictions) a civil & criminal codified legal system so, sentencing tends to be quite simply codified as opposed to what goes on in our system.

ScumLord · 25-08-2014 05:19PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Pride used to allow them.

Maybe they did but it's not allowed now, they've even stopped certain elbows to downed opponents.

EyeSight · 25-08-2014 05:37PM

Gbear wrote: »

I think part of the problem is that people are somewhat removed from the realities of violence but also exposed to a lot of simulated violence.

I have no intuitive knowledge of how much damage I could do to someone or could be done to me. The only things I have to go by are depictions on TV and in film.

Apparently I can get shot in the chest and soldier on if I'm fairly sound but if I'm a bit of a dickhead then I die immediately instead.

I watch tonnes of action movies and play tonnes of video games. I know 100% how dangerous kicking someone in the head is. It's basic common sense.
Actually video games help to show you how dangerous a headshot can be

BTW: I highly doubt this is the first time this idiots and his buddies assaulted someone

RoboRat · 25-08-2014 05:40PM

Pride used to allow them.

Yep, it did but it is no more and Pride was a promotion not an actual MA. It was based around the MMA style but without the same rules as say the UFC.

Maybe they did but it's not allowed now, they've even stopped certain elbows to downed opponents.

MMA still is to some degree unregulated and various promotions allow or prohibit certain techniques but I don't know of one current promotion that allows kicks to the head or stomps anymore.

EyeSight · 25-08-2014 05:53PM

RoboRat wrote: »

Yep, it did but it is no more and Pride was a promotion not an actual MA. It was based around the MMA style but without the same rules as say the UFC.

MMA still is to some degree unregulated and various promotions allow or prohibit certain techniques but I don't know of one current promotion that allows kicks to the head or stomps anymore.

To add to this. you would assume anyone trained to fight in these arts would know that when someone is down, it's not ok to kick them in the head.
It's just fighting dirty and going too far

K.Flyer · 25-08-2014 05:55PM

jimgoose wrote: »

These monkeys don't know they're born with what they get away with in Ireland. Occasionally one of them gets caught doing the animal in a civilised jurisdiction, and then it hits home, if only temporarily. I suppose the radio will be full of trying to bring the poor child back home Gadluvvim. Personally I hope the Guardia Civil shoot him.

Spanish police and the Guardia Civil tend not to take any nonsense from people causing trouble and have been known to dish out a few slaps to mouthy trouble making ar$eholes.
The judges over there also know how to count, as in 2 years and 2 years equals 4 years inside.

strobe · 25-08-2014 06:15PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

And he won't be having any x-box or home comforts either.

Aren't Spanish prisons in general considered pretty comfortable with tons of home comforts, so much so that it has one of the lowest rates in the world of foreign prisoners requesting transfers to their home countries prison system to serve the rest of their sentences? I'm sure I've read something along those lines a couple of times.

As to the OP, yeah kicking someone in the head while they are down being charged with attempted murder sou da about right to me.

foggy_lad · 25-08-2014 06:43PM

EyeSight wrote: »

To add to this. you would assume anyone trained to fight in these arts would know that when someone is down, it's not ok to kick them in the head.
It's just fighting dirty and going too far

Travellers wouldn't even continue to box someone once they go down and certainly would never kick someone in the head when they are on the ground.

SpaceTime · 25-08-2014 06:57PM

strobe wrote: »

Aren't Spanish prisons in general considered pretty comfortable with tons of home comforts, so much so that it has one of the lowest rates in the world of foreign prisoners requesting transfers to their home countries prison system to serve the rest of their sentences? I'm sure I've read something along those lines a couple of times.

I wouldn't be so sure about that statement. They were given a serious going over by the Council of Europe and accused of torture for use of 'fixation' as a form of punishment (i.e. tying inmates to beds). Apparently one prison was using a 'concrete block' as the bed and a thin mattress and handcuffs and one prisoner had been left cuffed to a bed for 21 hours and, following a break of 9 hours, for a further 14 hours the following day.

They got good marks for sanitation, ventilation and cell size but two-to-a-cell scenarios are increasingly common due to cutbacks.

All in all, I wouldn't be so sure that Spanish prisons are a model of Nordic-style hotel quality excellence. They've still got a bit of a vibe of Franco and the Inquisition about them.

Prison shouldn't be a pleasure, but that kind of stuff is quite uncalled for.

bb1234567 · 25-08-2014 07:05PM

One strong well placed kick to the head could easily kill somebody, or leave them with long term brain damage. Definitely not too severe

25-08-2014 07:07PM

Stamp = attempted murder
Kick while unconscious = attempted murder
Kick to stop an aggressor getting up = self-defence.

Kick in the Head = Attempted Murder

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