Is the GAA a dying sport?

thelad95 · 24-08-2014 06:17PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Don't believe you are correct on that one. Waterford v Kilkenny had 62,000 at it 2009. Both smaller than the football counties today, and when they played the year before there was 23 points in the difference.

There was also a football quarter final on that day. Waterford v Kilkenny in 2011 failed to attract 30000.

thelad95 · 24-08-2014 06:18PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Dublin have a very good up and coming hurling team. And resources are being piled in to Dublin so I don't see them being kept out much longer.

That line has been peddled out continuously since the late 90s and their pretty average compared to the big 3.

Mountainlad · 24-08-2014 06:23PM

thelad95 wrote: »

There was also a football quarter final on that day. Waterford v Kilkenny in 2011 failed to attract 30000.

32,000, but that is an exceptional year in that Waterford conceded 7 goals in the Munster final so there was no confidence behind them.

Don't think saying usually is accurate.

anncoates · 24-08-2014 06:24PM

Haven't a clue. The relevant bogball forum might have the answer though.

catallus · 24-08-2014 06:29PM

What I find incredible is that Dublin can't seem to get a proper hurling team together!

c_man · 24-08-2014 06:29PM

anncoates wrote: »

Haven't a clue. The relevant bogball forum might have the answer though.

With such witty and original material, I'm shocked you aren't booked for the whole month at the Fringe Festival. I think you should go for it man.

catallus · 24-08-2014 06:30PM

The Fringe? That's on its last legs.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-08-2014 06:30PM

How many premier league games attract over 50,000 crowd? Not many.

Meangadh · 24-08-2014 06:35PM

anncoates wrote: »

bogball

Ugh. How original.

catallus · 24-08-2014 06:35PM

http://www.soccerstats.com/attendance.asp?league=england

Back in the day when I followed football religiously I remember the attendances for some football games in Scotland being in or around 120 people.

Berserker · 24-08-2014 06:47PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

How many premier league games attract over 50,000 crowd? Not many.

Every single Man United, Newcastle and Arsenal home game has more than 50K. Old Trafford holds 75,000. How many GAA championship games get a crowd of 75K?

The likes of Liverpool and Spurs have 20 year waiting lists for season tickets and match tickets are incredibly difficult to source. They are constantly trying to buy up land/houses in the vicinity of their stadia to expand.

How many GAA league games attract crowds of over 50K?
How many hurling games attract that number with the exception of the September final?

Over the course of a season, the second tier of English football, the Championship, gets more people through the turnstiles than the GAA does over the course of a season and those people are proper fans. No corporate junkets in that division. What percentage of the seating at Croke Park is corporate?

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

As for soccer when is the last time any international match in Ireland had 52,000 in attendance?

I was commenting on the PL/English game and it's effects here. Domestic football here is a shambles and the senior international team is sliding away into obscurity.

thelad95 · 24-08-2014 06:48PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

How many premier league games attract over 50,000 crowd? Not many.

All of Manchester United, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Liverpool's home games attract in excess if 50000.

Santa Cruz · 24-08-2014 06:51PM

thelad95 wrote: »

All of Manchester United, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Liverpool's home games attract in excess if 50000.

And your completely irrelevant point is?????????

Meangadh · 24-08-2014 06:53PM

Eh, why are people comparing GAA and PL crowds? The populations aren't even comparable. There's an argument for comparing GAA and LOI crowds maybe, but even at that, what's the point? Any organisation putting down another just smacks of insecurity.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-08-2014 06:54PM

thelad95 wrote: »

All of Manchester United, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Liverpool's home games attract in excess if 50000.

Are you sure about that? Really sure? Really, really sure?

Kermit.de.frog · 24-08-2014 06:55PM

Meangadh wrote: »

Eh, why are people comparing GAA and PL crowds? The populations aren't even comparable. There's an argument for comparing GAA and LOI crowds maybe, but even at that, what's the point? Any organisation putting down another just smacks of insecurity.

Plus until very recently the GAA has not actively promoted it's sports abroad. Part of the logic behind the Sky GAA deal and with Channel 7 in Australia was that it would give hurling and football the type of exposure abroad it has never had before.

Mint Sauce · 24-08-2014 07:02PM

Stadium was well over half full, with only about two sides of the upper teirs, and parts of the hill/nally not occupied.

Will still be a big crowd and another payday for the GAA next week for the replay, and for a huge crowd, if not near capacity for Donegal v Dublin.

GAA is far from dying out.

Aislinn.B · 24-08-2014 07:06PM

Football dying out? Talking pure scutter.

Dick phelan · 24-08-2014 07:18PM

Comparing PL attendances to GAA is silly. Comparing the population of Manchester or Liverpool to Kerry and Mayo is ridiculous. the PL also has an international element many people from other countries will attend games doubt that happens much with GAA. The GAA is doing as good as ever 52k for a match between counties with the population of Kerry and Mayo is fantastic. GAA is without question the second most followed sport in the country and with football it's not the domestic game people follow.

Reekwind · 24-08-2014 10:18PM

thelad95 wrote: »

All of Manchester United, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Liverpool's home games attract in excess if 50000.

Which is pretty impressive given that Man City, Villa and Liverpool all have stadium capacities of less than 50k. Any thoughts on how they managed that?

And yes, the above points on comparing the two are perfectly correct. Let's see how beyond silly it is: The average attendance during the recent World Cup was just over 52k and the final attracted a mere 74k spectators. We can therefore conclusively say that the All-Ireland is more popular than the World Cup. Gaels everywhere can be proud.

Berserker · 25-08-2014 09:38AM

Dick phelan wrote: »

Comparing PL attendances to GAA is silly. Comparing the population of Manchester or Liverpool to Kerry and Mayo is ridiculous. the PL also has an international element many people from other countries will attend games doubt that happens much with GAA. The GAA is doing as good as ever 52k for a match between counties with the population of Kerry and Mayo is fantastic. GAA is without question the second most followed sport in the country and with football it's not the domestic game people follow.

I think you are forgetting rugby. Gate wise, that is probably the best of all the sports here. Agree with you in relation to football, it's all about the PL. More people travel to see Liverpool, average of 3,000 for the bigger games, from here than attend most domestic games.

AudreyHepburn · 25-08-2014 09:40AM

Johnny Utah wrote: »

I'm just watching the All Ireland semi final at the moment and it's noticeable that the stadium is nearly half empty.

This is one of the most important games of the year between two of the biggets teams, but the GAA can't even fill Croke Park. 30 years ago, a game like this would have been a full house.

Do you think that interest in the GAA is waning?

Just the opposite I would have thought. If anything I think the games are getting more and more popular, hurling in particular.

I think the rail strike was at fault yesterday.

Its Only Ray Parlour · 25-08-2014 11:54AM

Reekwind wrote: »

Which is pretty impressive given that Man City, Villa and Liverpool all have stadium capacities of less than 50k. Any thoughts on how they managed that?

And yes, the above points on comparing the two are perfectly correct. Let's see how beyond it is: The average attendance during the recent World Cup was just over 52k and the final attracted a mere 74k spectators. We can therefore conclusively say that the All-Ireland is more popular than the World Cup. Gaels everywhere can be proud.

The TV ratings for 2012 prove the football is the most popular sport in Ireland. I can't post links but this is from the Journal:

1. The Late Late Toy Show with 1,453,000 viewers;
2. Euro 2012 (Republic of Ireland v Croatia) with 1,236,000 viewers;
3. Mrs Brown’s Boys -Christmas Special with 1,068,000 viewers;
4. Love/Hate with with 1,034,000 viewers;
5. The Late Late Show with 1,028,000 viewers;
6. The Sunday Game Live: All Ireland Senior Football (Mayo v Donegal) with 974,000 viewers;
7. Mrs Brown’s Boys again with 909,000 viewers;
8. The Sunday Game Live: All Ireland Senior Hurling Final (Kilkenny vGalway) with 901,000 viewers;
9. RTE News: Nine O’Clock with 778,000 viewers;
10. The Eurovision Song Contest with 771,000 viewers;
11. London 2012 Olympics with 754,000 viewers;
12. The Voice of Ireland with 725,000 viewers;
13. The Voice of Ireland – Results with 718,000 viewers;
14. Coronation Street on TV3 with 715,000 viewers;
15. Raw with 704,000 viewers;
16. The Rose of Tralee with 695,000 viewers;
17. RTE News: Six One with 675,00 viewers;
18. Operation Transformation with 673,000 viewers;
19. Fair City with 648,000 viewers;
20. RBS 6 Nations (Ireland v Wales) with 648,000 viewers.

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If Ireland were in the World Cup, they would, undoubtedly, win the TV ratings for 2014.

Reekwind · 25-08-2014 12:05PM

Its Only Ray Parlour wrote: »

The TV ratings for 2012 prove the football is the most popular sport in Ireland. I can't post links but this is from the Journal:

Whoosh

catallus · 25-08-2014 12:09PM

Varoom!

WesternZulu · 25-08-2014 12:17PM

Its Only Ray Parlour wrote: »

The TV ratings for 2012 prove the football is the most popular sport in Ireland. I can't post links but this is from the Journal:

If Ireland were in the World Cup, they would, undoubtedly, win the TV ratings for 2014.

Not comparing like with like there at all.
I notice how you put up 2012, that year was an exception as Ireland qualified for a tournament for the 1st time in 10 years.

You cannot really compare viewing figures for Ireland, where everyone gets behind them, to the viewing figures for 2 counties who represent a small fraction of the population.

Anyway, all that doesn't really matter because for most years either the football or hurling finals get the highest viewing figures.

I think that the GAA is getting stronger if anything, as much as that disappoints some people.

guest2014 · 25-08-2014 12:18PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Football, maybe. Hurling, no.

only a handful of teams play hurling, unlike football so maybe you have that the wrong way round.

GerB40 · 25-08-2014 12:21PM

Firstly hurling is far superior to football, just look at the Tipp v Cork match last week, nearly full attendance.
Secondly GAA is an organisation not a sport.

WesternZulu · 25-08-2014 12:25PM

GerB40 wrote: »

Firstly hurling is far superior to football, just look at the Tipp v Cork match last week, nearly full attendance..

Loving the hurling snobbery, hurling people seem to have a deep need to put down football at any given opportunity.

It reeks of insecurity, and I am saying this as someone who likes hurling!

GerB40 · 25-08-2014 12:39PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

Loving the hurling snobbery, hurling people seem to have a deep need to put down football at any given opportunity.

It reeks of insecurity, and I am saying this as someone who likes hurling!

Okay that was more of a knee jersey reaction to someone dissing the GAA. But last year the gate receipts for hurling was €12 million while football was €11.9 and by all accounts this should be repeated this year.
Sorry if I sound like a snob but football was never as important to me as hurling..

Is the GAA a dying sport?

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