Pride in being Irish

Frank Lee Midere · 24-08-2014 11:43PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

I don't get it why Irish immigrants bond together with other Irish immigrants in English speaking countries. It's bizarre. It's like someone from the west of Ireland and Dublin bonding together over their nationality even though they are worlds apart back home.

I don't get why people generalise.

Frank Lee Midere · 24-08-2014 11:45PM

kingchess wrote: »

"breathes there the Man,with soul so dead,who never to himself hath said,this is my own, my native land!"-

It is odd to not feel any live for your own place. That said the vast majority of people who "hate Ireland" never leave it, and never will leave it.

Fighting Irish · 24-08-2014 11:52PM

I'm glad i'm Irish but proud? not really, i've done nothing to make Ireland the way it is

Faux Socialist · 24-08-2014 11:55PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

It is odd to not feel any live for your own place. That said the vast majority of people who "hate Ireland" never leave it, and never will leave it.

I don't get it why people have stupid user names.

P_1 · 24-08-2014 11:56PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

It is odd to not feel any live for your own place. That said the vast majority of people who "hate Ireland" never leave it, and never will leave it.

Ah don't get me wrong I love the place. I just think that nationality is a very odd concept to feel pride or shame over.

FierceMild · 24-08-2014 11:59PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

I don't get it why Irish immigrants bond together with other Irish immigrants in English speaking countries. It's bizarre. It's like someone from the west of Ireland and Dublin bonding together over their nationality even though they are worlds apart back home.

What? How is someone from Galway "worlds apart" from a Dubliner? It's hardly akin to a rural Texan meeting an urbanite New Yorker.

Karl Stein · 25-08-2014 12:03AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I met a few school friends for drinks at Christmas. Most of them are still living in the home town, or working in factories in Galway. I made a remark in passing that I felt the people of Ireland don't get much value for money in public services considering how much they pay in tax. Thirty minutes of them giving out about the Government. The usual old rubbish which comes down to wanting to pay no tax, but wanting world class services. Blaming others for having made the decision to buy a badly built house in a one-horse town. Such negativity.

Yet by the end of the night they were getting emotional while listening to some barstool republican fire out songs about James Connolly and Sean South while their bellies grew even larger with nationalistic pride.

I don't believe one word of the above.

Faux Socialist · 25-08-2014 12:06AM

FierceMild wrote: »

What? How is someone from Galway "worlds apart" from a Dubliner? It's hardly akin to a rural Texan meeting an urbanite New Yorker.

For starters Galway isn't a city, it's a town (a kip of a town).

Dots1982 · 25-08-2014 12:08AM

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Just like that line.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 25-08-2014 12:11AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I live in Germany. Bringing up the delicate subject of rabid nationalism in polite conversation doesn't really happen.

That's weird. I wonder why?

lufties · 25-08-2014 12:26PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I live in Germany. Bringing up the delicate subject of rabid nationalism in polite conversation doesn't really happen. I'm always rather perplexed when I arrive back into Ireland and hear this weird mixture of hating the country, yet getting ultra defensive if anyone says anything negative about it.

I met a few school friends for drinks at Christmas. Most of them are still living in the home town, or working in factories in Galway. I made a remark in passing that I felt the people of Ireland don't get much value for money in public services considering how much they pay in tax. Thirty minutes of them giving out about the Government. The usual old rubbish which comes down to wanting to pay no tax, but wanting world class services. Blaming others for having made the decision to buy a badly built house in a one-horse town. Such negativity.

Yet by the end of the night they were getting emotional while listening to some barstool republican fire out songs about James Connolly and Sean South while their bellies grew even larger with nationalistic pride.

It's a weird type of dichotomy.

Well in fairness, that is weird..having lived in germany, I can safely say the germans are not much different in that respect. The point of my thread was that generally, Irish people are warm, and human..compared to some of the snakes I work with here in london, who would sell their own mother for a pound. We are not perfect but should be proud collectively about who were are and what we came from.

Strong Life in Dublin · 25-08-2014 12:57PM

You should be proud to be Irish in fairness. We are a very small country but we have contributed alot to the world.

biko · 25-08-2014 12:58PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

For starters Galway isn't a city, it's a town (a kip of a town).

Dafuq?
We could never be friends even if we met on Mars, Mr Rathgar :mad:

Irishcrx · 25-08-2014 01:14PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

For starters Galway isn't a city, it's a town (a kip of a town).

I'm fairly sure Galway is a county..

FierceMild · 25-08-2014 03:58PM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

For starters Galway isn't a city, it's a town (a kip of a town).

Well, maybe the reason you are incredulous that Irish people can bond despite their geographic differences is because, unlike you, they don't hold such dismissive opinions of each other's locales.

WilyCoyote · 25-08-2014 04:36PM

lufties wrote: »

I never really understood why 'being Irish' was such a popular thing, but having left Ireland a couple of years ago, and lived in five countries, I understand why we are portrayed as the cool people we are.

People see us as 'having character', which is entirely true, Irish people don't give themselves enough credit. This isn't a pat on the back thread, just a high five one really;)

Tell me how proud ye are :cool:

Quilligan! Are you coming back to Rathkeale for Christmas?

dd972 · 25-08-2014 04:47PM

Ice Storm wrote: »

I hate when people assume I "have character" just because I am Irish. They are inevitability disappointed when they discover that in fact, I do not.

It's connected to the myth that having an Irish accent or birth cert somehow makes you witter, earthier, more poetic, rugged and more authentic than those who don't, you could be called Oisin O'Conghaile, speak fluent Irish, have Irish parents and citizenship yet being born outside the 'hallowed emerald' and having a less than Irish accent somehow makes you 'lesser' and 'inferior'.

GB Shaw said that the stage Irish person is a roaring bore, Dara O'Briain is one for example.

I Heart Internet · 25-08-2014 04:59PM

lufties wrote: »

I never really understood why 'being Irish' was such a popular thing, but having left Ireland a couple of years ago, and lived in five countries.......

"I have many leather bound books."

lufties · 25-08-2014 07:31PM

dd972 wrote: »

It's connected to the myth that having an Irish accent or birth cert somehow makes you witter, earthier, more poetic, rugged and more authentic than those who don't, you could be called Oisin O'Conghaile, speak fluent Irish, have Irish parents and citizenship yet being born outside the 'hallowed emerald' and having a less than Irish accent somehow makes you 'lesser' and 'inferior'.

GB Shaw said that the stage Irish person is a roaring bore, Dara O'Briain is one for example.

Bull****!

fryup · 25-08-2014 11:44PM

lufties wrote: »

The point of my thread was that generally, Irish people are warm, and human..compared to some of the snakes I work with here in london, who would sell their own mother for a pound. We are not perfect but should be proud collectively about who were are and what we came from.

and what other nationalities aren't human

anyway i think the whole "friendly irish" thingy is greatly exaggerated

some of the most cold hearted mean minded fu&kers i've come across in my life have been irish

Wompa1 · 26-08-2014 12:02AM

Faux Socialist wrote: »

For starters Galway isn't a city, it's a town (a kip of a town).

Was born in one of the largest cities in the world and have been living in a city larger than Dublin for a few years now...not sure what, Galway being a town and Dublin being a city would have to do with it though....how does that make the people of those places worlds apart?

(I do agree that Galway is a town..)

Should also have stated, I lived in Galway for many years too....

John_Rambo · 29-08-2014 09:18PM

biko wrote: »

Dafuq?
We could never be friends even if we met on Mars, Mr Rathgar :mad:

In fairness Biko, it's the exact same guff you come out with about Dublin.

Case of your own medicine? Not nice, is it?

FloatingVoter · 29-08-2014 09:28PM

Why the **** is anybody proud of whatever rock they landed on. Be proud of your newfound sobriety, your **** record, your educational achievements, the cat you saved from the street.
I'm proud to be an American, I'm proud to be a North Korean. Who gives a monkeys. It a piece of rock that stops you from getting wet. That's all a country is.

feargale · 29-08-2014 09:34PM

Duff wrote: »

Thinly veiled "I'm cultured and well traveled" thread.

There's always one!

mickoftheglens · 29-08-2014 09:53PM

What does being Irish mean anyway? drinking guinness and talking drivel.

I am a gael, an Irishman is nothing without Gaelic culture.
I am not being racist but if it was a choice of being a 2nd generation Polish immigrant to Ireland and being lets say a Scottish Gael i would choose to be the Scottish gael.

twinytwo · 29-08-2014 10:02PM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Why the **** is anybody proud of whatever rock they landed on. Be proud of your newfound sobriety, your **** record, your educational achievements, the cat you saved from the street.
I'm proud to be an American, I'm proud to be a North Korean. Who gives a monkeys. It a piece of rock that stops you from getting wet. That's all a country is.

what a very narrow mind you must have

mickydoomsux · 29-08-2014 10:04PM

twinytwo wrote: »

what a very narrow mind you must have

He's 100% right.

Countries, counties etc are all just made up concepts.

talla10 · 29-08-2014 10:04PM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Why the **** is anybody proud of whatever rock they landed on. Be proud of your newfound sobriety, your **** record, your educational achievements, the cat you saved from the street.
I'm proud to be an American, I'm proud to be a North Korean. Who gives a monkeys. It a piece of rock that stops you from getting wet. That's all a country is.

If only Hitler thought like you do!

feargale · 29-08-2014 10:07PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

"I have many leather bound books."

Jeepers I'd hate to tell boardsies that I owned a ferret, because some of them would accuse me of hobnobbing with the hunting set for snobbish reasons. What's that Behan said about the begrudgers?

Manach · 29-08-2014 10:07PM

Knowing history, there is a sort of pride at being descendants of survivors of some of the worst ever eras.

Pride in being Irish

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