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Price Changes FPL 14/15 **Mod warning 1st post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    zarquon wrote: »
    Actually the CTC team reckon that the formulae changes by FPL are now excluding wildcard transfers from the price rise calculations

    So would that mean if good few players WC for eg after GW 3... And start signing Aguero....his price wouldn't go up as quick as it would have last year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    So would that mean if good few players WC for eg after GW 3... And start signing Aguero....his price wouldn't go up as quick as it would have last year?

    Exactly. It's all guesswork at the moment though as none of the price change sites know what is going on at the moment. The FPL have made significant changes and removed data used to calculate the changes. For whatever reason they don't want this accessed. I presume it's to stop the 3rd party sites from profiting by offering such services by provisioning proprietary data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Crazy carry on by FPL if they're deliberately trying to stop this.
    It'll make no difference to the casuals but it'll annoy the vast majority of us I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    PARlance wrote: »
    Crazy carry on by FPL if they're deliberately trying to stop this.
    It'll make no difference to the casuals but it'll annoy the vast majority of us I

    Will mean that you won't build up even .5 of a m from Wildcard to make the diff going down the stretch next April to defeat other lads in your leagues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    Actually i just had a thought. Third parties providing this data means that users are not clicking on the FPL site to check for themselves. For advertising and promotion purposes they would have determined that the other websites are reducing their page hits significantly enough to the point where they want to disrupt them as much as possible and divert the traffic back to the main site.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,241 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    zarquon wrote: »
    Actually i just had a thought. Third parties providing this data means that users are not clicking on the FPL site to check for themselves. For advertising and promotion purposes they would have determined that the other websites are reducing their page hits significantly enough to the point where they want to disrupt them as much as possible and divert the traffic back to the main site.

    Is there a reason why the official site has never provided proper data on price changes? Would it not make more sense for them to be upfront about it thus avoiding players having to use third party sites?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Is there a reason why the official site has never provided proper data on price changes? Would it not make more sense for them to be upfront about it thus avoiding players having to use third party sites?

    They never thought players would take the game as seriously as us:D

    At the end of the day it is their data so they can do as they want.

    The rules are the same for every player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    zarquon wrote: »
    Actually i just had a thought. Third parties providing this data means that users are not clicking on the FPL site to check for themselves. For advertising and promotion purposes they would have determined that the other websites are reducing their page hits significantly enough to the point where they want to disrupt them as much as possible and divert the traffic back to the main site.

    That would make sense if they were in any way commercially minded..... But their site is filled with banner ads for their own app, Barclays (part of the main sponsorship I presume and not affected by page hits) and then the odd FIFA advert.

    They could be creaming money in from this if they wanted. 3 million teams and they're still offering a playstation (? :) ) as first prize isn't it.
    I think you're giving them WAY too much credit for having a commercial mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,451 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    There's also the chance that they didn't want the game to be stacked so far in favour of the hardcore player than the casual player and this is a good way to even the odds a bit.

    Obviously it limits the amount of time the casual player spends on the site if they're 100s of points behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    CSF wrote: »
    There's also the chance that they didn't want the game to be stacked so far in favour of the hardcore player than the casual player and this is a good way to even the odds a bit.

    Obviously it limits the amount of time the casual player spends on the site if they're 100s of points behind.

    Makes sense. We all expect half of the teams to be inactive by December.
    We don't just expect it, we count on it:D

    Whatever is the reason, we will have to live with that.
    This will stop me from making unnecessary transfers that didn't work too well last season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,451 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Totalfpl has both Chadli and Lamela as having gone down in ownership today. That can't be right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    CSF wrote: »
    Totalfpl has both Chadli and Lamela as having gone down in ownership today. That can't be right?

    They are messing with us. This is definitely the other way around judging by the official Status page.

    I will ignore their data for this week, already made my transfer anyway so can wait and see if they catch up with the changes at some point.

    Lamela is 8m so there shouldn't be major movements in his transfers in tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,451 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    wonski wrote: »
    They are messing with us. This is definitely the other way around judging by the official Status page.

    I will ignore their data for this week, already made my transfer anyway so can wait and see if they catch up with the changes at some point.

    Lamela is 8m so there shouldn't be major movements in his transfers in tbh.

    I'm wildcarding this week so trying to do as best as I possibly can with the rises despite the confusing information available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    CSF wrote: »
    I'm wildcarding this week so trying to do as best as I possibly can with the rises despite the confusing information available.

    Dier and Ivanovic went up tonight. Total FPL got it all wrong. I think what we see is an old data tbh.

    Not sure if you manage to make any money tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,451 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    wonski wrote: »
    Dier and Ivanovic went up tonight. Total FPL got it all wrong. I think what we see is an old data tbh.

    Not sure if you manage to make any money tbh.

    Had them both in, here's hoping they rise again. Confident Dier will at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Latest from www.fplstatistics.co.ok

    Sounds promising....

    Testing completed. Managed to predict all the rises correctly for last night on a spreadsheet. Next step will involve development of a desktop predictor. The website implementation is likely to take place tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    any chance of Mata going back up?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,086 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    any chance of Mata going back up?

    Not for a while.
    FPL site has more transfers out for him this week than in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    FHFC wrote: »
    Latest from www.fplstatistics.co.ok

    Sounds promising....

    I wonder if Totalfpl is up and running again? They have Cesc, Cattermole and Larsson due for a rise, so will be interesting to see if they go up tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    I wonder if Totalfpl is up and running again? They have Cesc, Cattermole and Larsson due for a rise, so will be interesting to see if they go up tonight.

    They are putting up figures, but as CSF I think posted above some of them don't make much sense and a lot of their predictions were wrong last night.

    while they obviously have some kind of algorithms running I'd say there is a big big margin for error there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    I wonder if Totalfpl is up and running again? They have Cesc, Cattermole and Larsson due for a rise, so will be interesting to see if they go up tonight.

    Only Fab went up.

    Giroud, Austin, Davies and a whole clatter of others drop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    I wonder if Totalfpl is up and running again? They have Cesc, Cattermole and Larsson due for a rise, so will be interesting to see if they go up tonight.

    Only Fab went up.

    Giroud, Austin, Davies and a whole clatter of others drop. But not Caulker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    You can tell from the progress and NTIs that it's not right still. Totalfpl have Dier's NTI at 134,958. That's a helluva lot of people who transferred him in in the last half hour in the early hours of Tuesday morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,725 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Saying Jovetic is protected?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Yeah it still seems to be a bit of a mess tbh. As long as FPL still release the exact figures for transfers in and out then the rest of the external sites will be able to extrapolate the data needed. I'm not sure why they (FPL.com) don't just give rough figures in order to counteract it? Obviously I'm hoping they don't though! These sites do come in handy and having the extra few million from January onwards really helps you to kick on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    roryc wrote: »
    Yeah it still seems to be a bit of a mess tbh. As long as FPL still release the exact figures for transfers in and out then the rest of the external sites will be able to extrapolate the data needed. I'm not sure why they (FPL.com) don't just give rough figures in order to counteract it? Obviously I'm hoping they don't though! These sites do come in handy and having the extra few million from January onwards really helps you to kick on.

    Yeah these sites do allow the more serious players to make some money where the more casual players wouldn't, and that money will come in handy later in the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    With all this confusion and lack of accurate predictions it does make the WC this weekend less appealing. Normally like to trade a few to get money in but it looks like we will be unable to predict price rises like in previous years.

    Anyone planning to WC anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    dahat wrote: »
    With all this confusion and lack of accurate predictions it does make the WC this weekend less appealing. Normally like to trade a few to get money in but it looks like we will be unable to predict price rises like in previous years.

    Anyone planning to WC anyway?

    No. There's a few players in my team I'm not thrilled with, but I'm going to try and hold of for this week, and the international break, and hopefully by then totalfpl and fiso will have sorted it out! I'm lost with out them!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    No. There's a few players in my team I'm not thrilled with, but I'm going to try and hold of for this week, and the international break, and hopefully by then totalfpl and fiso will have sorted it out! I'm lost with out them!!

    Same here, would love if it was sorted so we can activate over the international break. A blind WC does not appeal at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Wanted to swap Giroud for Adebayor but cant now - darn


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