Ireland - Always the poor mouth -and nothing to show for itself.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 02:21AM #1

Apart from a few dreamers winning Nobel Prizes for Literature and the odd medal in the Olympics , what have we achieved?

Two Grand slams in the 100+ years of the 5/6 Nations.

Eurovision wins - Wow !

A few rock stars that hang out with Tony Blair and Bill Clinton and Oama for mutual ego building purposes.

Have we any architectural landmark buildings that anyone anywhere can point to and say 'Thats Ireland' in the same way that our nearst neighbours can do about any amount of structures in their capital city alone'?

We have nothing that says 'Ireland' in the same way that an image of the Sydney Opera House says Australia or the bravery of the Guggenheim in Bilbao exert themselves as landmarks.

Architecture is only one example. We have nothing to show for ourselves after 90 years as a nation in many other areas.

No defence force. - Our Army, Navy and Air Corps deserve better. They do a great job but by and large, our successive governments don't dive a fuck about them.

My suggestion - Abolish our charade of meaningless neutrality and join NATO now.

Infrastructure - From day one we have begged, srounged and prostituted our dignity before our European partners with the con of optaining funding for our bad roads, railways and cargo terminals in our ports etc.

What did we do with it?

Our town centres are being boarded up as people flock to the German and British stores on the edge of town.

Ireland as a nation has fuckall to show for itself.

Apart from a few trinkets .

Czarcasm · 24-08-2014 02:24AM

Newgrange?

longhalloween · 24-08-2014 02:24AM

Lapin wrote: »

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Apart from a few trinkets .

Whores will have their trinkets...

131spanner · 24-08-2014 02:26AM

Lapin wrote: »

Apart from a few trinkets .

That word is highly offensive, they're an ethnic minority.

Ruu · 24-08-2014 02:27AM

We love the auld tae.

Insect Overlord · 24-08-2014 02:27AM

The bitterest Internet users in the world.

Lenin Skynard · 24-08-2014 02:28AM

Wow that's a lot of self-loathing. I love Ireland and I love living here. We're not Germany or Britain and we never will be. We've done well for a small country when it comes to arts, science and infrastructure in my opinion.

_Redzer_ · 24-08-2014 02:30AM

Well to be fair, we were always poor as fcuk and emigrating/suffering hardship -which lead to severe brain-drain and our talent fleeing.

It's only now in the last few decades we're getting really stable, educated and wealthy and catching up to many of our neighbours.

Give us time, we're generally an intelligent and hardworking nation, and we do get revered for that by other countries, when they're ignoring the stereotypes.

There have been great contributions by Irish people to art, science, architecture, and other things. That can only improve as we progress.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 02:31AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Newgrange?

I'm trying to get a 21'st century thing going here.

Name one thing Ireland built in the last 100 years that stands out amonst the rest of the world?

One thing ?

It wasn't me! · 24-08-2014 02:33AM

Lapin wrote: »

Name one thing Ireland built in the last 100 years that stands out amonst the rest of the world?

One thing ?

A reputation as a nation at the forefront of international peace and dialogue efforts, which was begun even before the state existed. I'll take that over any building, all day, every day.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 02:34AM

An File wrote: »

The bitterest Internet users in the world.

Not bitter at all.

Just sad that people like you are content to sit back and swallow shít.

Thats why Ireland has fuckall to show for itself.

wp_rathead · 24-08-2014 02:34AM

least we are better than wales

_Redzer_ · 24-08-2014 02:34AM

Lapin wrote: »

I'm trying to get a 21'st century thing going here.

Name one thing Ireland built in the last 100 years that stands out amonst the rest of the world?

One thing ?

jeni · 24-08-2014 02:37AM

Ireland rocks, we have a really rich history, we have a beautiful country to be proud of, the Irish people are the soundest out of all, why else would half the worlds population claim to be from here,

I brought my daughter into town and I was proud and quite surprised how much I had to show her, GPO, Grafton St, Trinity college as we walked past temple bar I heard an excitef tourist running towards it saying look they really have the cobble stones, the bridges my daughter was amazed by them, and the tall ships, she thought the buskers were a free concert

I am proud to be and say I am Irish

In Lonesome Dove · 24-08-2014 02:37AM

Lapin wrote: »

Apart from a few dreamers winning Nobel Prizes for Literature and the odd medal in the Olympics , what have we achieved?

Two Grand slams in the 100+ years of the 5/6 Nations.

Eurovision wins - Wow !

A few rock stars that hang out with Tony Blair and Bill Clinton and Oama for mutual ego building purposes.

Have we any architectural landmark buildings that anyone anywhere can point to and say 'Thats Ireland' in the same way that our nearst neighbours can do about any amount of structures in their capital city alone'?

We have nothing that says 'Ireland' in the same way that an image of the Sydney Opera House says Australia or the bravery of the Guggenheim in Bilbao exert themselves as landmarks.

Architecture is only one example. We have nothing to show for ourselves after 90 years as a nation in many other areas.

No defence force. - Our Army, Navy and Air Corps deserve better. They do a great job but by and large, our successive governments don't dive a fuck about them.

My suggestion - Abolish our charade of meaningless neutrality and join NATO now.

Infrastructure - From day one we have begged, srounged and prostituted our dignity before our European partners with the con of optaining funding for our bad roads, railways and cargo terminals in our ports etc.

What did we do with it?

Our town centres are being boarded up as people flock to the German and British stores on the edge of town.

Ireland as a nation has fuckall to show for itself.

Apart from a few trinkets .

As read the last part of this as:

'Apart from a few tinkers'

Shakespeare's Sister · 24-08-2014 02:38AM

Wow, will some Irish people ever get over the self flagellation craze and stop dissecting how this country appears to the rest of the world, much of which doesn't even know about it?
It's a small country - never had much clout economically/politically. It's not on a par with America, Britain, France or Germany. Same with lots of countries. I wonder are chunks of their population so self flagellating though.
Iceland and Estonia - why don't you have architectural landmarks and well known sh-t damn you?!

Insect Overlord · 24-08-2014 02:38AM

Lapin wrote: »

Just sad that people like you are content to sit back and swallow shít.

I enjoy delicious beef and some top quality craft beers, all Irish. Frequently. So there.

amkin25 · 24-08-2014 02:38AM

The Spire,a feat of construction that will never be rivaled.

porsche959 · 24-08-2014 02:38AM

An File wrote: »

The bitterest Internet users in the world.

I blame the gubbimint.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 02:42AM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

I note your confusion.

My question was related to what we have contributed to the global community since independence, a time period that equates to the last century in the main.

So - any suggestions ?

stefan idiot jones · 24-08-2014 02:42AM

wprathead wrote: »

least we are better than wales

Ahem. We have the best flag in the world.

Double figure Grand Slam wins and The Stereophonics.

That makes us considerably better than you.

Lenin Skynard · 24-08-2014 02:44AM

Oh you silly goose, Wales isn't a country.

wp_rathead · 24-08-2014 02:45AM

Lapin wrote: »

I note your confusion.

My question was related to what we have contributed to the global community since independence, a time period that equates to the last century in the main.

So - any suggestions ?

We built New York.

chuckyarelaw · 24-08-2014 02:45AM

We have a Defence Force - we don't however have an army.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 02:49AM

wprathead wrote: »

We built New York.

And they knocked it down since and built over it.

In the meantime, we built Hawkins House - and its still there.

It wasn't me! · 24-08-2014 02:51AM

chuckyarelaw wrote: »

We have a Defence Force - we don't however have an army.

Wrong. Our Defence Forces comprises the Army, the Air Corp and the Naval Service.

pidgeoneyes · 24-08-2014 02:51AM

More PS3s per head of population outside of Japan! Irish men designed the White House and the modern submarine.

24-08-2014 02:57AM

Lapin wrote: »

I'm trying to get a 21'st century thing going here.

Name one thing Ireland built in the last 100 years that stands out amonst the rest of the world?

One thing ?

The celtic tiger

Lapin · 24-08-2014 02:59AM

chuckyarelaw wrote: »

We have a Defence Force - we don't however have an army.

My point summed up here.

We have Army, Navy and Air Corps defence forces (and I'm damn proud of all three).

But as long as successive governments treat them as revenue collectors rather than men and women who deserve to serve the state at a higher level on the international stage, they will always be no more than a sourse of cheap jokes through no fault of their own.

And they don't deserve that.

WakeUp · 24-08-2014 03:00AM

We our known around the world for our stunning landscapes and the warmth of our people. gimme a rugged wild ancient Atlantic coastline and such along with a pint and a session in one of the many taverns throughout the land over a concrete opera house in Sydney and the whatever in Bilbao. any day of the week. we win as far as Im concerned. whooya for nato though. lets buy tanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu3VwANi674

Lenin Skynard · 24-08-2014 03:06AM

Lapin wrote: »

they will always be no more than a sourse of cheap jokes through no fault of their own.

Several of my family members are in the army and have served in Lebanon as peacekeepers. I've never once heard them speak of being mocked or otherwise, they're spoken of very highly around the world. Why on earth would a country of four million people have a big army? This isn't North Korea. You should maybe have a closer look at yourself as the "sourse" of your unhappiness rather than blaming the country for it.

Ireland - Always the poor mouth -and nothing to show for itself.

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