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Grind School looking for an Intern

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  • #32
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    I'm increasingly seeing this in public schools too where DIP students are straight up timetabled for the year and the corresponding reduction in timetable for co-operating teachers doesn't actually exist. However not to the point of 10+ year long DIP students!


  • #33
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭doc_17


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    I don't think it's a case of saying that your friend is lying, more a case that he may not have been aware of everything going on in the background in the school.

    Oh absolutely. However he taught a 3rd year HL Maths class 5 times a week from the start of the year to the end of the year. I suppose all parents who send their children to any school would probably feel that exam students should be taught by fully qualified teachers. And maybe if you're throwing 5k, or whatever it costs, at it you might feel that a little bit stronger.


  • #34
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,407 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    doc_17 wrote: »
    Oh absolutely. However he taught a 3rd year HL Maths class 5 times a week from the start of the year to the end of the year. I suppose all parents who send their children to any school would probably feel that exam students should be taught by fully qualified teachers. And maybe if you're throwing 5k, or whatever it costs, at it you might feel that a little bit stronger.

    Indeed. My school never gives exam classes to dips. We rarely have more than 1 or 2 per year and they are given classes that are already assigned to a teacher.

    We also tend to get the UL ones that are doing block placements. I'd imagine there are plenty of other schools who operate the same


  • #35
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    doc_17 wrote: »
    Oh absolutely. However he taught a 3rd year HL Maths class 5 times a week from the start of the year to the end of the year. I suppose all parents who send their children to any school would probably feel that exam students should be taught by fully qualified teachers. And maybe if you're throwing 5k, or whatever it costs, at it you might feel that a little bit stronger.

    Ya I'll accept it on face value seeing as others alsohave the same experiences. No different to jobbrodge really I suppose, except no pay at all.


  • #36
    byhookorbycrook
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    And another school looking for a " class assistant" despite this on the site "
    Classroom Assistant


    "We at the JobBridge Policy Unit have received communication from both the Department of Education & Science and IMPACT Union to advise that there is no grade or post of Class Room Assistant within the Irish Education system.

    In light of this information and advice the recent advertisement for an Internship as a Classroom Assistant cannot continue to be advertised as a JobBridge, National Internship.

    Internships are designed to provide real world experience to those looking to explore or gain relevant knowledge and skills to enter that particular career. The primary focus should be to get on the job training and take what has been learned in previous workplace settings, education and training to allow the Intern to move into employment.

    As the job/career of a classroom assistant does not exist we cannot allow in good faith internships to take place under this heading. We regret any inconvenience that this may have caused and you may contact the Department of Education & Science or IMPACT if you have any queries."
    http://www.jobbridge.ie/notice3.aspx


    The ad for the "intern"is below.
    http://tinyurl.com/kh724bt


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  • #37
    Daisy 55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Daisy 55


    doc_17 wrote: »
    I did my Dip in a Galway school with 800 kids. There were 26 Dip Students. I have no reason to think he'd be telling lies. He just isn't that type of fella. He's one of the most down to earth and sensible fellas I know. He doesn't go around spinning yarns everyday.

    If it came down to a choice between believing him, or thinking that private fee paying schools wouldn't do such a thing (or get away it), I'd trust the fella who told me. One of the selling points of these schools is their "smaller class sizes" so it stands to reason that they will try to preserve this despite their PTR being increased.

    I take you point about the parents council though. But he did his Dip round about the time the government started increasing the PTR to fee paying schools on a harsher basis than other schools. So maybe this was a new initiative aimed at curbing the impact of that and they were chancing their arm to see how it would go.

    I have no information whether it is still happening or not. But what I do know is that, according to him and I trust him, it happened when he did his Dip there.

    It was the same story in Galway in the early 90s. So many dips they weren't allowed in the staff room. Two dips would take a maternity leave between them and never see any money!


  • #38
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    byhookorbycrook wrote: »
    And another school looking for a " class assistant" despite this on the site "
    Classroom Assistant


    "We at the JobBridge Policy Unit have received communication from both the Department of Education & Science and IMPACT Union to advise that there is no grade or post of Class Room Assistant within the Irish Education system.

    In light of this information and advice the recent advertisement for an Internship as a Classroom Assistant cannot continue to be advertised as a JobBridge, National Internship.

    Internships are designed to provide real world experience to those looking to explore or gain relevant knowledge and skills to enter that particular career. The primary focus should be to get on the job training and take what has been learned in previous workplace settings, education and training to allow the Intern to move into employment.

    As the job/career of a classroom assistant does not exist we cannot allow in good faith internships to take place under this heading. We regret any inconvenience that this may have caused and you may contact the Department of Education & Science or IMPACT if you have any queries."
    http://www.jobbridge.ie/notice3.aspx


    The ad for the "intern"is below.
    http://tinyurl.com/kh724bt

    Do you think they are trying to get it up just long enough to get phone calls? i.e. teachers offering their services free (even if it isn;t through jobsbridge!)

    Email INTO folks... They are just taking the proverbial ..

    I heard it on Joe Duffy last week and it was a disgrace the way Joe was promoting it.. he had some trades guy saying it was great for schools and the kids. The jobsbridge guys the tradesman takes on he throws them €100 at the end of the week himself (wonder does he declare that!!).

    Even had principals defending it!!! one principal intimated that she said to the jobsbridge teacher that they;d keep her in mind if a job came up in the future. Dunno if that's standard procedure to 'promise' someone a position without following a proper interview procedure.

    Never again listening to Joe Duffy.. never again.. anyone remember the time when the teachers were on strike, Joe and his show were claiming that all the teachers were queuing in their cars to travel to the north for cheap shopping!

    Anyhow... on with the Public vs Private sector straw man argument. When will people be happy?


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