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Wii U / Nintendo general news and discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    NTMK wrote: »
    the shareholders dont seem to have the power with nintendo with the company being run like a dictatorship under iwata and the way the managers want the son of the previous CE to take over

    i would like to see Ninty America gain more influence as they seem to know what they're doing

    if nintendo left it to the US arm to deal with third parties things would be a lot better

    If nintendo go mobile gaming to me will be dead as they're one of the very last companies that dont attempt to nickel and dime you

    I wouldn't. I think that is what the Xbox and PS are. I hope Nintendo regain their past success, but I don't think Mobile phones/tablets are the way either.
    They could build a PS/Xbox type console and make some serious cash, with their own games and 3rd party on it. I'm sure they know that, and have chosen not to, yet.
    I don't think i'd like to see smash bros brawl available on Steam... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    NTMK wrote: »
    the shareholders dont seem to have the power with nintendo with the company being run like a dictatorship under iwata and the way the managers want the son of the previous CE to take over

    i would like to see Ninty America gain more influence as they seem to know what they're doing

    if nintendo left it to the US arm to deal with third parties things would be a lot better

    If nintendo go mobile gaming to me will be dead as they're one of the very last companies that dont attempt to nickel and dime you

    If I remember correctly Nintendo america were the ones who turned down on multiple occasions bringing Xenoblade chronicles, last story and pandora tower over to the us


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I doubt there's any turmoil in Nintendo management and more arguing with clueless shareholders. Nintendo are right to stay out of mobile. It's a bubble at the moment. It will burst then stabilise and that will be the time to evaluate. Their handhelds are still going strong and the success of the 3DS proves there is a market to be shared with mobile.

    As for Nintendo of America being better at dealing with third parties, absolute nonsense. It's nothing to do with Nintendo of Japan being strict, that was back in 1997. Nintendo are as receptive as MS and Sony. The problem is install base. If your console hasn't a big install base then there's not many people to sell your game to so third parties won't develop for it. It's that simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Got Wonderfull 101 with my Mario Kart free game download....

    There's such a reeeeek of "New Hardware Launch Title" off it that it's unbearable.

    Turned it off after an hour, not sure i'll return to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Got Wonderfull 101 with my Mario Kart free game download....

    There's such a reeeeek of "New Hardware Launch Title" off it that it's unbearable.

    Turned it off after an hour, not sure i'll return to it

    How do you mean?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Allyall wrote: »
    How do you mean?

    Just the over use of the Wii U controller, having played both Marios, Pikmin 2, Windwaker HD and Mario Kart 8, it just seemed a bit over the top.

    My main issue was with the making circles and shapes on the pad screen, though i will admit its obvious they were keen to show off/justify/implement the new hardware.

    I just felt it wasn't for me, maybe had i played more DS/3DS it wouldn't have been as jarring


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Unheard that game has a bit of a learning curve.takes a while to get into it before it clicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭abbir


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Just the over use of the Wii U controller, having played both Marios, Pikmin 2, Windwaker HD and Mario Kart 8, it just seemed a bit over the top.

    My main issue was with the making circles and shapes on the pad screen, though i will admit its obvious they were keen to show off/justify/implement the new hardware.

    I just felt it wasn't for me, maybe had i played more DS/3DS it wouldn't have been as jarring

    Can't you use the right-analog stick instead of drawing on the touchscreen? I remember reading that before, still haven't started playing the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Just the over use of the Wii U controller....

    I love The Wonderful 101.. I think it's an excellent game, I was just curious as to what you meant.

    You'll hate the rumoured sequel (The wonderful 102 :pac:) then, as it may incorporate Mii's too.. :)

    I wait with baited breath...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    So what are people looking forward to in the coming year, I know I will be picking up Hyrule Warriors, Dex, Armikrog, Bayonetta 2, Devils Third, Star Fox, The Legend of Zelda and would love to see Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Fatal Frame 5 and Dragon Quest 10 get a localisation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    If interested in Hyrule Warriors, remember there's a dedicated Direct on tomorrow morning at 5am, which I guess means it'll be in Japanese.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    abbir wrote: »
    Can't you use the right-analog stick instead of drawing on the touchscreen? I remember reading that before, still haven't started playing the game.

    Yes you're right actually, anyway it was just a lot on the screen for me to be dealing with. If i was 10 years younger, maybe, i might give it another go sometime


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Radiosonde


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Just the over use of the Wii U controller, having played both Marios, Pikmin 2, Windwaker HD and Mario Kart 8, it just seemed a bit over the top.

    My main issue was with the making circles and shapes on the pad screen, though i will admit its obvious they were keen to show off/justify/implement the new hardware.

    I just felt it wasn't for me, maybe had i played more DS/3DS it wouldn't have been as jarring

    W101's controls are probably less down to the hardware, and more to do with Kamiya's interests - drawing shapes also figured in Okami, and using the analogue stick was said to be the true way to play 101, with the touchscreen a 'simplified' approach.

    Its a decent game, but with numerous flaws. Personally I was OK with the shapes, but the camera, the frequent vehicle sections, unintuitive environments, repetitive enemies...not so OK with them. I usually hate decimal scoring, but W101 is a 6.9/10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Had my buddy over for a bit and we fired up Mariokart 8. Played online 2 player and it was some great crack.
    MK games really work only when you play with similar skill people. Playing against 3 people locally who were **** at it was boring :(.

    My buddy sow Wii U for the first time and he actually liked it. Looks like we will have a lot more MK8 in the future.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    To those unfortunates who don't have a WiiU yet, poor sad fools, here is a post worth reading from the Nintendo forum
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91647401&postcount=1585

    A WiiU for 3DS money, €189.99 and two games as well.
    As the post says, you'll have to get a little hdd to go along with, but that's probably inevitable anyway, even the PS4 and XB1 will need expansion at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,212 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    ^ good deal.

    Actually whats the deal with running NetFlix on the WiiU?
    As long as you have your netflix account you are good to go? or do you have to pay for a type of 'live' service first (eg, like xbox)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    ^ good deal.

    Actually whats the deal with running NetFlix on the WiiU?
    As long as you have your netflix account you are good to go? or do you have to pay for a type of 'live' service first (eg, like xbox)

    Your good to go, no service like that or anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    To those unfortunates who don't have a WiiU yet, poor sad fools, here is a post worth reading from the Nintendo forum
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91647401&postcount=1585

    A WiiU for 3DS money, €189.99 and two games as well.
    As the post says, you'll have to get a little hdd to go along with, but that's probably inevitable anyway, even the PS4 and XB1 will need expansion at some point.

    Amazon.it have been running the same deal for the last 2 weeks as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭abbir


    Actually whats the deal with running NetFlix on the WiiU?
    As long as you have your netflix account you are good to go? or do you have to pay for a type of 'live' service first (eg, like xbox)

    I thought Microsoft got rid of that requirement in one of their latest updates. So none of the three consoles require an extra subscription on top of the Netflix one.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It's nice on the WiiU because you can watch on the touch pad while others watch regular TV on the, well the TV, or vice versa.
    Of course, any tablet that has Netflix as an app will do the same thing so....
    But it is kinda cool.
    Actually, I've been watching youtube videos of full Twilight Zone and Phil Silvers shows on the YouTube channel on the WiiU, throwing them onto the TV or Touchpad as required, very handy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    http://mynintendonews.com/2014/08/21/amazon-says-wii-u-game-pre-orders-increased-the-most-after-gamescom/

    Seems Nintendo momentum continues after the increasing interest after e3 for wii u gamescom showed great interest and according to amazon pre orders increased most for nintendo platform.




    christmas should prove positive for nintendo as long smash bros does not get a delay , and with amiibos coming around the same time period I believe nintendo are looking to turn there toy brand into a bllion dollar industry in itself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Very interesting indeed. The Wii U really is the ideal "companion console" and I don't mean that in derisory way at all. Anyone who isn't getting value from a X-Box One or PS4 alone and doesn't want to own both, this really is a great idea. Some really fun games and for once it looks like Nintendo are going to have a lot of 1st party IP games land in quick succession


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    wants most interesting is there is more interest in the system now with no 3rd party support than its first for when it had 3rd party support.

    wii u might make gamecube numbers but It does no matter as long as the games are great. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    wants most interesting is there is more interest in the system now with no 3rd party support than its first for when it had 3rd party support.

    wii u might make gamecube numbers but It does no matter as long as the games are great. :D

    Looks like the other way around according to them. More publishers leaving Wii U, which is a bit stupid.

    http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/ukoyqx/gt-news-new-resident-evil-leaked-and-more-publishers-leaving-wii-u


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    cant compete with there install base ? hmm last time I checked wii u is hitting 7 million while xbox one just hit 5 so that excuses is not valid.


    Ubisoft fiasco with ceo saying nintendo don't buy mature games and prefer games like just dance is also stupid since ubisoft best selling game is zombi u with nearly 1 million copies sold as last time I checked t was around the 700k mark. rayman legends also sold better on wii u than other consoles.

    porting bad ports of franchises to a system that was new and never played previous games such as eas mass effect 3 or ubisoft assassin creed 3 and 4 I do not see how you could expect them to sell well in the first place.


    then you have the case for yacht games shovel knights sales were 27 per cent of wii u and that is in north america alone as the game has not reached eshop for europe or japan yet and one of the developers said that the wii u attach rate was high when it came to game sales.


    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-06-shovel-knight-sales-surpass-devs-lifetime-estimate-in-one-month


    Its become the case publishers do not want to risk bringing there games over and when they have they are pretty awful ports or missing features.
    so instead of trying to make there titles established on nintendo platforms and making more money they choose not to.





    forgot one more point , there is a very good chance sony could go bust if its not evident enough of the billions they lost in may that they were even shocked by also the lay offs of naughty dog , infamous few days ago , closing of pc and other electronics you would think for publishers if anything happened to sony you have microsoft whos future is up in the air as we do not know do they even want to be apart of the gaming industry after xbox one so you are left with pc and nintendo and ms if they are around.

    its not reliable for publishers to survive just 2 platforms and mobile is very hit or miss. so Instead of going oh we should bring our games to the 7 million install base on nintendo they are like nope we dont need em .

    alot of studios went bust due to losing money , sometimes you have to take the chance to seek the rewards


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It makes sense for Ubisoft and Activision to do so. I mean lets face it, who buys a wiiU to play assassins creed or Watchdogs? However I do think there is a market for a mature game on the WiiU, but one that uses the exclusive features of the system. People will just get it for the other consoles otherwise even if they own a WiiU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Not forgetting how Ubisoft have been treating the Wii U versions of their games, if they were released at the same time as the other platforms. Like announcing the Wii U version of AC wouldn't get DLC. Then they'll probably point at Watch Dogs not selling well on Wii U as a reason to not go back to it, ignoring the fact the game has been out for months on other platforms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Its a better case to relelase games like red steel or some games to nintendo platforms than simply writing it as a place to store your shovelware crap like wii.

    Is it more of a case that they do not feel there games could compete with nintendo ips as thats why the majority of nintendo consumers are ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The WiiU isn't popular enough to support shovelware, that will be heading for the PS4 :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    For anyone who still thinks Nintendo do not support mature games :)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Devil's Third is about as chilidish as the latest CoD or GTA game but at least it knows it and openly enjoys itself :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    What's the craic with the new Fatal Frame I thought i saw in gamestm?

    Are we gonna see that here?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It fecking better although with 4 missing out on a Western release there's a chance it won't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    NNNNNGGGGGHHHH!!!!! :P :)



    Rrrreeaallllyyy annoying commentary, best just muted and listening to some music for full affect :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    But we did get the Project Zero 2 remake and the 3DS game. At least Europe got the remake. :)
    Also since it's now a Nintendo franchise, more or less, there's a better chance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Eh? Is it any good on 3DS?

    How did i miss that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    I really like the art style in the wooly Yoshi game. But I'm not sold on the actual game. The mechanic of throwing eggs always felt a little off to me. Like it slowed down the game a little too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    Eh? Is it any good on 3DS?

    How did i miss that?

    You probably researched it by now but it's Spirit Camera:The Cursed Memoir and it's more of a spinoff
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_Camera:_The_Cursed_Memoir

    Never played any of the games but don't think this got great reviews


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Oh yeah, I saw that a while ago in Gamestop and figured it was some sort of cheap clone because it looked a bit rubbish!

    I played the original on the old xbox. Scared the jesus out of me. The Wii one is one of the few wii games i still want to get. Anytime I've seen it it's still over 30 quid, though.

    The camera gimmick with the gamepad would (could) be amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Mister Man


    So i've had the WiiU for the past 8 or so months now. I've bought Monster Hunter, Mario Kart, Zelda WW, and Super Mario World 3D.
    Have to say, I'm hugely disappointed with the console all around. I've probably used it more as a remote to turn on the TV, then as a gaming console.
    When I look at games coming for the WiiU, nothing really interests me hugely, other then Smash Bros.
    Think it's time to sell it off and look at the PS4's/Xbox One's. What's the going rate for a second hand WiiU console, does anyone know?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Mister Man wrote: »
    Think it's time to sell it off and look at the PS4's/Xbox One's. What's the going rate for a second hand WiiU console, does anyone know?

    Going rate is roughly on Adverts.ie.. Hard to say, with games, and condition, and if it has original box and any extra's etc..

    I am maybe taking your phrasing a bit too literally, but I don't think now is the time at all.. if anything, I think right now it's the best time to go the opposite direction. feck all games, for the other 2, and the Wii U is gaining a little momentum... Maybe (obviously) it's not for you though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Just as a matter of interest, and I ask this of anyone planning to buy a console, what games are on PS4/Xbox One that would interest you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Radiosonde


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Just as a matter of interest, and I ask this of anyone planning to buy a console, what games are on PS4/Xbox One that would interest you?

    There'll be a good few things by this time next year, on ps4 anyhow. Right now there's still not enough. Would probably just end up replaying Last of Us. But Metal Gear, Grim Fandango remake, Bloodborne...once those sort of things there'll be no looking back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭Daith


    Radiosonde wrote: »
    There'll be a good few things by this time next year, on ps4 anyhow. Right now there's still not enough. Would probably just end up replaying Last of Us. But Metal Gear, Grim Fandango remake, Bloodborne...once those sort of things there'll be no looking back.

    Sigh a Grim Fandango remake on Wii U might just make me pick up the console. Unless my ancient laptop can play it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Just as a matter of interest, and I ask this of anyone planning to buy a console, what games are on PS4/Xbox One that would interest you?

    For me:
    Destiny
    TLOU remastered
    Bloodbourne
    Battleborn
    Silent Hills
    Uncharted 4
    Far Cry 4
    Batman: Arkham Knight
    Evolve
    Diablo 3


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Which are all either not released or available on PC. It could be a while longer before I find the PS4 or One essential for me.

    More than likely that will be the day Bloodborne is released :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Allyall wrote: »
    Rrrreeaallllyyy annoying commentary,

    You were not wrong, I hope nobody is paying them for this, they can't even keep their voices/audio at a consistent level :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Miyamoto has done a interview with edge magazine recently and pretty much said he does not want to make games for casuals anymore

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendos-miyamoto-doesnt-want-to-make-games-for-p/1100-6421955/


    now while casuals has been shape into meaning no blood , nudity or not dark and gritty makes your games for kids I am assuming the more passive games like wii fit , wii music is not on miyamoto mind as he feels he does not want to makes games for people who wont be there in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    New 3ds, but I am a bit disappointed. Why they did not just got a same circle pad on other side...

    http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qdn0zq/new-nintendo-3ds-debut-trailer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    New 3ds, but I am a bit disappointed. Why they did not just got a same circle pad on other side...

    http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qdn0zq/new-nintendo-3ds-debut-trailer

    I'm also disappointed by the second stick.

    That said as a few others have already said if there's a Zelda one I might just have to pull the trigger particularly as I don't own any form of 3DS yet. :o


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