Have a child, get a free house.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-08-2014 03:16PM

If I already have a house, can I get a free child?

LynnGrace · 21-08-2014 03:18PM

I saw some abandoned car seats at a bus stop recently. Does that count?
(They were manky, and were dumped beside the litter bin).

Smidge · 21-08-2014 03:19PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

If I already have a house, can I get a free child?

If you collect butter vouchers you can get several.

sashafierce · 21-08-2014 03:20PM

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Pumpkinseeds · 21-08-2014 03:21PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would you bring up a kid on your own for a couple of hundred quid a week OP

no glamour in that life

The people doing it don't look at it as a negative thing. They grew up with parents who didn't do an honest days work and they themselves wouldn't work to warm themselves, their kids will probably be the very same. Once someone's rent/mortgage is paid that's the biggest monthly expense out of the way. If they're paying 20 or 30 euro a week for a house/flat they're laughing.

They can get cheap accomadation and whatever benefits are going for having a child or they can get off their arses and go work for minimum wage. The fact remains that there's a whole culture out there of people who want to have kids and live on benefits. That has to be stopped and the only way it will be is to stop giving them free or cheap housing.

Frankly if a couple with kids, neither of them are working, can afford foreign holidays every year and to buy, tax, insure and put petrol in a car as well, there's something very very wrong with the system. We have a family like that local to us, 5 kids, they're just back from a holiday in Lanzarote. Neither of thems ever worked. Neither sets of parents, grandparents or any blood relatives of theirs have ever worked. Pisses me right off.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-08-2014 03:21PM

Smidge wrote: »

If you collect butter vouchers you can get several.

I like this idea, but will I not just end up with a fat kid?

omega man · 21-08-2014 03:25PM

I'd like to think it's only a minority that abuse the system. However it's tough when all you seem to do is work and pay your wages over to the government by means of various taxes and then the rest on mortgage, bills etc. that's life I guess but then you experience first hand how others are seemingly doing it differently and then it hits home hard.

Neighbours of mine, neither of whom have worked in a number of years, seem to get by nicely. He does odd nixers whilst she minds a load of other peoples kids. Now they don't live it up but they have a kids, mortgage, decent car and holiday in Ireland a couple if times in the year. He also manages to visit the local 3-5 nights a week without fail. They certainly don't appear to be struggling that's for sure. I assume they get a number of associated benefits ie, mortgage relief, med card etc etc.
its hard to accept if I'm honest.

Ave Sodalis · 21-08-2014 03:26PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

The people doing it don't look at it as a negative thing. They grew up with parents who didn't do an honest days work and they themselves wouldn't work to warm themselves, their kids will probably be the very same. Once someone's rent/mortgage is paid that's the biggest monthly expense out of the way. If they're paying 20 or 30 euro a week for a house/flat they're laughing.

They can get cheap accomadation and whatever benefits are going for having a child or they can get off their arses and go work for minimum wage. The fact remains that there's a whole culture out there of people who want to have kids and live on benefits. That has to be stopped and the only way it will be is to stop giving them free or cheap housing.

Frankly if a couple with kids, neither of them are working, can afford foreign holidays every year and to buy, tax, insure and put petrol in a car as well, there's something very very wrong with the system. We have a family like that local to us, 5 kids, they're just back from a holiday in Lanzarote. Neither of thems ever worked. Neither sets of parents, grandparents or any blood relatives of theirs have ever worked. Pisses me right off.

This is the biggest load of horse manure I've ever read...

ScumLord · 21-08-2014 03:26PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

If I already have a house, can I get a free child?

I just found a child, I was going to go down to the welfare office and trade it in but maybe we can come to some sort of arrangement?

dar100 · 21-08-2014 03:28PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

The people doing it don't look at it as a negative thing. They grew up with parents who didn't do an honest days work and they themselves wouldn't work to warm themselves, their kids will probably be the very same. Once someone's rent/mortgage is paid that's the biggest monthly expense out of the way. If they're paying 20 or 30 euro a week for a house/flat they're laughing.

They can get cheap accomadation and whatever benefits are going for having a child or they can get off their arses and go work for minimum wage. The fact remains that there's a whole culture out there of people who want to have kids and live on benefits. That has to be stopped and the only way it will be is to stop giving them free or cheap housing.

Frankly if a couple with kids, neither of them are working, can afford foreign holidays every year and to buy, tax, insure and put petrol in a car as well, there's something very very wrong with the system. We have a family like that local to us, 5 kids, they're just back from a holiday in Lanzarote. Neither of thems ever worked. Neither sets of parents, grandparents or any blood relatives of theirs have ever worked. Pisses me right off.

Great private detective skills there. Maybe look at it as a way to earn a little extra income, instead of been bitter:)

Fabreo · 21-08-2014 03:28PM

mariaalice wrote: »

Done to death on boards, but go ahead.

Not everyone spends their lives on boards.

MRnotlob606 · 21-08-2014 03:29PM

I agree

donegal__road · 21-08-2014 03:41PM

smellmepower wrote: »

If you really think life relying on state handouts is a cushy number go down the social in the morning and sign on.

It isn't though,and you won't.

Your problem is more with the lack of affordable housing in Dublin,which the government does nothing about because they don't want to upset voting landlords who are creaming it in government.

:eek:

FloatingVoter · 21-08-2014 03:46PM

Posting drivel on boards while you're meant to be counting the paperclips has led may a poor soul to the dole queue. The expected free house, the free car, multiple prams, the free bus pass alas are not there awaiting you.

Yes, this is what happened to me.

eisenberg1 · 21-08-2014 03:47PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

I heard you get a mansion on the moon with a monkey butler if you're on the dole.

Meanwhile, us working chumps have to work 32 hours a day and have to walk 15 miles to get 3 years length of rope for our mules so we can power our carrot-generators.

:D

Tell that to the kids of today and they wouldn't believe you...:D

Tasden · 21-08-2014 03:48PM

PLL wrote: »

My partner and I had a child at 20, we have since then paid €900 a month in rent, all our own bills, not claimed any benefits, my partner has a great job because he worked hard and went to college while working at the same time. I am going back to college in September so that I can also be educated, and have a career myself.

The people that have kids and claim benefits or live at home with mammy and daddy and then think they can relate to my life grinds my gears like you cannot imagine. You are not an adult, you are not living in the real world. F*ck off.

So your partner worked a good job and paid your bills etc. And now you're going to college while your partner will help you, either financially or through supporting you practically with your child (minding child while you study, doing the drop offs at creche etc.)?
Some people get support from the state or from their parents or wherever else, you're no better or worse than them just because your support came from a loving partner. Not everyone in the positions you mentioned are wasters that know nothing about your so called "real world".

swimming in a sea · 21-08-2014 03:48PM

The top and bottom take from the middle,, The top take taxes off the middle to give to the bottom who pay for cigs\beer\lottery\etc. which boost profits of company's for their executives\ex gov ministers the Top...

It not going to change so get into the top or maybe you'd prefer repeats of TopGear on Dave.

Arcto · 21-08-2014 03:52PM

I was at the bus stop last week and there was a woman with 3 kids and a house there. The bus driver said there was no room for the house so she left it there and said "Sher the council will give me another one".

Shamefull society.

FloatingVoter · 21-08-2014 03:52PM

swimming in a sea wrote: »

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It not going to change so get into the top or maybe you'd prefer repeats of TopGear on Dave.

You've got to watch Top Gear so you can know if the social are ripping you off next time they give you a free car. Its edumacational, bud.

Owryan · 21-08-2014 03:54PM

Dowl88 wrote: »

Not really friends, just people I know and would have a chat too.

Do they know you are on board bad mouthing them

Smidge · 21-08-2014 03:55PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I like this idea, but will I not just end up with a fat kid?

Nah, trade the vouchers for the kid. But this then means you will have to pay cash for your smokes

KungPao · 21-08-2014 03:55PM

mike_ie wrote: »

Here we go again....

You need to have a kid OP, they'll get your free house to you in a week or two... :rolleyes:

If you have a brown baby, it greases the wheels even further and you get a converted attic, new decking, and a year's free subscription to Sky Sports.

myshirt · 21-08-2014 03:56PM

Only Fools and Horses work?

Welfare system in this country is very generous in my view - though some would say it barely meets the poverty line.

There does need to be reform in the area, particularly as relates to work activation initiatives; but this can't be motivated solely by greed and jealousy of people who have had a better crack of the whip in life and now find themselves going through a short rough patch. Get off your high horses. You will accumulate way more wealth over your life than these guys ever will or ever had the opportunity to.

Every person in this country is trying to game the system; every person; from those on jobseekers all the way up to bankers, CEO's, Senior Managers; everyone is trying to arrange their affairs in the best manner & shape possible to benefit themselves.

It's the same principle, get as much money into the pocket as possible, and let the least out.

There are more bargain shoppers than there are ethical shoppers, even where children make the tshirts. We don't give a sh!t.

Look also for example at your majority of civil servants, way, way, way overpaid for years and years; ate into the next generations money; never ever worth the pay they got and are getting. We have young unemployed graduates a million times more competent that have no jobs, as unions are dominated by the older members and negotiate deals to the benefit of those members only.

If you ask me what is more unfair, it is that. But overall, every person is just trying to arrange their affairs in the best way they can for themselves. It's innate survivalism, and it's greed. And it's at all levels of society. Just some are better than others at executing it. And the balance are jealous.

zcorpian88 · 21-08-2014 04:04PM

Dowl88 wrote: »

A load of people I know all have children and are getting the dole and a lovely modern house to live in for free. Before anyone says its not free its feck all a week, like 30 euro. This is outside Dublin.
Most are unskilled and one said she wont go back to work because shes better off on the dole which really peeved me off, she has a car, can go out drinking and goes on holidays. Livin the dream!

Heres myself on 30k in Dublin, getting taxed to pits, paying 600 for a bloomin crappy box room as I cant afford a house or decent apartment.

Somethings not right with our culture!

Agreed, a couple of weeks ago I was on Facebook and a friend of mine liked a random status of someone I know that used to live near me, single mammy with 2 kids but I knew well she had a number of different partners live with her on the sly in her former house. I just put the cursor over the news feed on the righthand side of my page and it read "Gettin d keys for my new house 2moro can't wait" more than likely it's in one of the nearby freshly built estates, better than the hole my family always lived in.

Just boils my piss that she can have her own place for next to nothing when I'm stuck living at home because I can't afford my own place, the council wouldn't give a childless person a place of their own, I wouldn't feel right taking it anyway, if you can't pay for your own place legitimately then it's not living independently.

Just because some tart couldn't take the pill she gets rewarded with her own gaff, and you'd be surprised how many smuggle partners and extra tenants into the house also. Living the life or Riley.

21-08-2014 04:05PM

zcorpian88 wrote: »

Just because some tart couldn't take the pill she gets rewarded

jesus

Pumpkinseeds · 21-08-2014 04:06PM

sup_dude wrote: »

This is the biggest load of horse manure I've ever read...

Believe what you like. The family I've described live locally, as do 1 set of parents. 3 of the siblings also have social housing locally too. But hey, don't let that stop you.

FloatingVoter · 21-08-2014 04:08PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Believe what you like. The family I've described live locally, as do 1 set of parents. 3 of the siblings also have social housing locally too. But hey, don't let that stop you.

They're a very famous family. Everybody on Boards has heard of them. Bono is jealous of them.

21-08-2014 04:11PM

Wow. I grew up in a council house. My Father left my Mother when I was young and left her with two kids. Paid no maintenance. These things happen.

We got a council house after waiting for a few years. Small bungalow in an estate, but perfectly adequate for 3 people! My Mother was working three jobs when she got the council house, now she still works to support my brother who is in college. And to support herself of course. It's not all wasters that live in council houses :rolleyes: I am now in my mid-twenties with a degree and a fairly good job, paying a lot of tax, and a lot of rent!

FloatingVoter · 21-08-2014 04:13PM

Lia, you live and did live in the real world. Some people here live in a fantasy place.

MS.ing · 21-08-2014 04:14PM

Tasden wrote: »

So your partner worked a good job and paid your bills etc. And now you're going to college while your partner will help you, either financially or through supporting you practically with your child (minding child while you study, doing the drop offs at creche etc.)?
Some people get support from the state or from their parents or wherever else, you're no better or worse than them just because your support came from a loving partner. Not everyone in the positions you mentioned are wasters that know nothing about your so called "real world".

yeah the reality where you find a good looking bad boy to **** babies into you, then a nice guy shmuck to prostetute yourself* too for you and your kids to carry on 'screwing' for decades \o/
something like 10% of kids are being raised by a father who thinks its his!
(in reality that figure is probably higher)

anyway how do I know?

cause Im one of the schmucks :rolleyes: :pac:

dont forget this guys, women are the superior sex by far!
its all a ****in con!

clever cnuts

Have a child, get a free house.

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