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    #152
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Dont forget the free travel ;)


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    #153
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Banjoxed wrote: »
    Indeed. Comments like that come from the mouths of the ignorant who believe the Mail and the Indo are credible news sources.

    You could add Boards.ie to that list of credible news sources :).

    Also apparently Joe Duffy works for IR. :)


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    #154
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Banjoxed wrote: »
    Indeed. Comments like that come from the mouths of the ignorant who believe the Mail and the Indo are credible news sources.

    What are you on about?

    Sure, i'm living it up on my slightly-over-average-wage income from working 48 hours a week including evenings, weekends, bank holidays etc.

    All us Irish Rail workers are on the proverbial gravy train.


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    #155
    Cervelo1981
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Cervelo1981


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    What are you on about?

    Sure, i'm living it up on my slightly-over-average-wage income from working 48 hours a week including evenings, weekends, bank holidays etc.

    All us Irish Rail workers are on the proverbial gravy train.

    There is no way you have ever worked 48hrs in a working week pull the other one most of the jobs you don't drive more than 40hrs a week. I'd say you work on averge 36-38 maz per week.


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    #156
    Cervelo1981
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Cervelo1981


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    What are you on about?

    Sure, i'm living it up on my slightly-over-average-wage income from working 48 hours a week including evenings, weekends, bank holidays etc.

    All us Irish Rail workers are on the proverbial gravy train.

    There is no way you have ever worked 48hrs in a working week pull the other one most of the jobs you don't drive more than 40hrs a week. I'd say you work on averge 36-38 maX per week.


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    #157
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    do you think a train drivers job only consists of driving trains?


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    #158
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    There is no way you have ever worked 48hrs in a working week pull the other one most of the jobs you don't drive more than 40hrs a week. I'd say you work on averge 36-38 maX per week.

    I'm not a driver but don't let that get in the way of your rant.


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    #159
    Cervelo1981
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Cervelo1981


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    I'm not a driver but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

    Driver, guard, depotperson, whatever there is no way you work 48hrs no matter what traffic grade you are. It's not a rant I am speaking facts here.


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    #160
    Cervelo1981
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Cervelo1981


    corktina wrote: »
    do you think a train drivers job only consists of driving trains?

    No 90% is driving the other 10% is on refreshers and training days.


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    #161
    Infini
    Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    Driver, guard, depotperson, whatever there is no way you work 48hrs no matter what traffic grade you are. It's not a rant I am speaking facts here.

    Actually people DO work 48hr weeks I mean these stations dont run themselves. But please continue spouting nonsense with no 1st hand experince of the job your talking about.


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    #162
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    Driver, guard, depotperson, whatever there is no way you work 48hrs no matter what traffic grade you are. It's not a rant I am speaking facts here.

    Where's your proof?

    If they are facts then where is your proof?


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    #163
    Cervelo1981
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Cervelo1981


    Infini2 wrote: »
    Actually people DO work 48hr weeks I mean these stations dont run themselves. But please continue spouting nonsense with no 1st hand experince of the job your talking about.

    Please why don't you give me an example?


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    #164
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    Please why don't you give me an example?

    You're the one making baseless claims. The burden of proof is on you.

    Got anything other than "dem railway lads do nuthin all day but drink tae and they get paid a hape"?


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    #165
    Cervelo1981
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Cervelo1981


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Where's your proof?

    If they are facts then where is your proof?

    You and I both know that is the truth.


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    #166
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    You and I both know that is the truth.

    Truths generally have proof.

    Can I see yours please?


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    #167
    Infini
    Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    Please why don't you give me an example?

    Staff normally work from 5.30 to 1500 and 1500 too 00.30 on average on a 5/7 roster over 2 weeks or 3 weeks with a spare day for cover That can be on either shift whichever is shorthanded. Regardless people work long days and nights.


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    #168
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    I mentioned earlier in the thread about poor IE customer service......I had yet another example when travelling to Sligo last week.

    One of the great advantages of the train is that it allows you to work properly while on the move so I'm a big fan of it - but what happened last week happens all too often.....

    ......book and pay for the ticket online (decent enough website) and make the crucial seat reservation.

    Saunter down to the train (nice train as they all are now) - board and find someone in 'my' seat. Politely explain I have a reservation and that the seat they are in is the one I've booked (the LCD display over the seat is blank - not sure I've ever seen them work).

    The 'squatter' suggests I sit somewhere else and I explain I'd like to use to the table for work - not that I feel I should have to explain......

    Then they suggest I sit on the aisle seat -again, I find it easier to work if I'm not on the aisle getting bumped by fellow passengers moving about.

    At this point the conductor came along (not checking tickets) and I showed him my ticket and explained the situation - his response is to point to another seat and tell me to sit there!

    I mean......if they are not going to honour the reservations why offer the service in first place?

    I'd say I travel on the Sligo and Cork routes about 4/5 times every 6 weeks and this happens on about 30% of trips.


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    #169
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    they may not look as if they are working but the trains won't run without them even if it looks as if they are just sitting around. Railway work was always like that.


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    #170
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Jawgap wrote: »
    I mentioned earlier in the thread about poor IE customer service......I had yet another example when travelling to Sligo last week.

    One of the great advantages of the train is that it allows you to work properly while on the move so I'm a big fan of it - but what happened last week happens all too often.....

    ......book and pay for the ticket online (decent enough website) and make the crucial seat reservation.

    Saunter down to the train (nice train as they all are now) - board and find someone in 'my' seat. Politely explain I have a reservation and that the seat they are in is the one I've booked (the LCD display over the seat is blank - not sure I've ever seen them work).

    The 'squatter' suggests I sit somewhere else and I explain I'd like to use to the table for work - not that I feel I should have to explain......

    Then they suggest I sit on the aisle seat -again, I find it easier to work if I'm not on the aisle getting bumped by fellow passengers moving about.

    At this point the conductor came along (not checking tickets) and I showed him my ticket and explained the situation - his response is to point to another seat and tell me to sit there!

    I mean......if they are not going to honour the reservations why offer the service in first place?

    I'd say I travel on the Sligo and Cork routes about 4/5 times every 6 weeks and this happens on about 30% of trips.

    ..and you sit in the other seat and 2 minutes later a guy comes up and says you are in his seat...and so it snowballs. IEs reservation system is pants


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    #171
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    I pointed out to a chap that the seat he was in was reserved and pointed to the name above the seat , his response was "That doesnt say reserved" and mumbled a bit of abuse :).


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    #172
    Grandeeod
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    corktina wrote: »
    ..and you sit in the other seat and 2 minutes later a guy comes up and says you are in his seat...and so it snowballs. IEs reservation system is pants

    Its because of the cut in subsidy. Oh wait....its due to the free travel pass.:rolleyes:


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    #173
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    corktina wrote: »
    ..and you sit in the other seat and 2 minutes later a guy comes up and says you are in his seat...and so it snowballs. IEs reservation system is pants

    I don't think the system is pants - but the willingness to 'enforce' it is not there.

    It would help, at least, if the LCD screens worked. I wouldn't blame someone for taking a seat if there was no indication it was reserved.


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    #174
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    Driver, guard, depotperson, whatever there is no way you work 48hrs no matter what traffic grade you are. It's not a rant I am speaking facts here.
    no your not and yes it is, there is no guards any more

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #175
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    it's pants if the screens don't work


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    #176
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Cervelo1981 wrote: »
    No 90% is driving the other 10% is on refreshers and training days.
    good, those who drive a train need to be trippley more compitent then any other driver, same as a pilot and so on.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #177
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Where's your proof?

    If they are facts then where is your proof?
    a driver in heuston told him lol

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #178
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,997 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Jawgap wrote: »
    I mentioned earlier in the thread about poor IE customer service......I had yet another example when travelling to Sligo last week.

    One of the great advantages of the train is that it allows you to work properly while on the move so I'm a big fan of it - but what happened last week happens all too often.....

    ......book and pay for the ticket online (decent enough website) and make the crucial seat reservation.

    Saunter down to the train (nice train as they all are now) - board and find someone in 'my' seat. Politely explain I have a reservation and that the seat they are in is the one I've booked (the LCD display over the seat is blank - not sure I've ever seen them work).

    The 'squatter' suggests I sit somewhere else and I explain I'd like to use to the table for work - not that I feel I should have to explain......

    Then they suggest I sit on the aisle seat -again, I find it easier to work if I'm not on the aisle getting bumped by fellow passengers moving about.

    At this point the conductor came along (not checking tickets) and I showed him my ticket and explained the situation - his response is to point to another seat and tell me to sit there!

    I mean......if they are not going to honour the reservations why offer the service in first place?

    I'd say I travel on the Sligo and Cork routes about 4/5 times every 6 weeks and this happens on about 30% of trips.
    i'm with you on this one, this has been going on for ages, no excuse at this stage (infact there never was) once the trains got settled in

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #179
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    You're the one making baseless claims. The burden of proof is on you.

    Got anything other than "dem railway lads do nuthin all day but drink tae and they get paid a hape"?

    If you are ever waiting for a bus or train in Wexford station you will see two or three staff sitting in the station office guarding the toilets. it is not their fault they have no work to do but some arrangement should be in place to staff the place only when required using part-time staff.


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    #180
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    end of the road wrote: »
    no your not and yes it is, there is no guards any more

    still guards on the enterprise


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    #181
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    flyingsnail wrote: »
    still guards on the enterprise

    Train hosts, not Guards.


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