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Israel - Palestine Conflict. **Mod note in OP - updated 1st August**

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  • #4202
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Haha I'm notoriously bad at detecting sarcasm over the internet ;) The use of the ;) :pac: and :rolleyes: smileys helps considerably :p
    Being on de mobile doesnt help!


  • #4203
    FifaPlaya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭FifaPlaya


    shedweller wrote: »
    Being on de mobile doesnt help!

    Sorry i didnt notice you were being sarcastic


  • #4204
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    FifaPlaya wrote: »
    U know hating arabs or ethiopians is anti semetic cus theyre semites and a lot of palestinians are descended from jews who stayed in the roman palestine
    No bother lad. You make an interesting point here though. Isnt there an anti arab sentiment in israel? What with trying to get the Palestinians out and all. They dont really get on with arabs so could they themselves be accused of antisemitism?


  • #4205
    FifaPlaya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭FifaPlaya


    shedweller wrote: »
    No bother lad. You make an interesting point here though. Isnt there an anti arab sentiment in israel? What with trying to get the Palestinians out and all. They dont really get on with arabs so could they themselves be accused of antisemitism?

    Youre right they even disxriminate arab jews and ethiopian jews and anti zionist ultra orthodox jews aswell


  • #4206
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,517 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727660/Israeli-soldiers-demolish-homes-Palestinians-suspected-June-kidnapping-killing-three-teenagers-West-Bank.html
    Israeli troops today demolished the homes of two Palestinians it suspects of the abduction and killing of three teenagers in the occupied West Bank in June, the army said.

    Troops set charges to destroy the homes of Hussam Kawasme and Amar Abu Aysha in the southern West Bank before dawn and sealed off the home of a third suspect, Marwan Kawasme.

    Israel accuses Hamas Islamist militants of the abduction and killing of Jewish seminary students Gil-Ad Shaer, Naftali Fraenkel and Eyal Yifrah, who went missing on June 12 and were discovered dead a couple of weeks later in the West Bank.

    ...

    Detonated: Smoke billows above the West Bank town of Hebron after Israeli troops destroyed the home of Hussam Kawasme, who is accused of kidnapping and killing three teenagers in June
    Perhaps someone could help me with the geography ?

    The suspects were from West Bank / Hebron but 2,000 people have died in Gaza ?


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  • #4207
    FifaPlaya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭FifaPlaya


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727660/Israeli-soldiers-demolish-homes-Palestinians-suspected-June-kidnapping-killing-three-teenagers-West-Bank.html Perhaps someone could help me with the geography ?

    The suspects were from West Bank / Hebron but 2,000 people have died in Gaza ?

    They shoukd destroy the homes of the people who killed that innocent palestinian child in a revenge attaxk


  • #4208
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727660/Israeli-soldiers-demolish-homes-Palestinians-suspected-June-kidnapping-killing-three-teenagers-West-Bank.html Perhaps someone could help me with the geography ?

    The suspects were from West Bank / Hebron but 2,000 people have died in Gaza ?


    They were from Anyoulexcuseville.


  • #4209
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    The suspects were from West Bank / Hebron but 2,000 people have died in Gaza ?

    Netanyahu's response would probably be.... "West Bank, Schmest vank, Gaza, schmaza. Who cares, they're all Palestinians."


  • #4210
    Shiraz 4.99
    Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    Circular argument goes in circles . . . . . little by little the world stops caring . . . . advertising revenue for media outlets still running the story drops off . . . . . something else big & shiny needs to be found to renew our attention . . . . . everyone look over here at ISIS & the horror


  • #4211
    NotASheeple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭NotASheeple


    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    Circular argument goes in circles

    Circular argument? What are you on about? There is no 'circular' argument. The IDF's indiscriminate murder of civilians and its flagrant disregard for Human Rights and the Geneva Convention isn't a argument, it is a FACT!
    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    something else big & shiny needs to be found to renew our my attention

    Fyp, you made the silly mistake of speaking on behalf of everyone.


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  • #4212
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,423 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Saw this linked to elsewhere
    Photos Showing Similarities between Jewish and Palestinian Holocaust

    Different conflict but there are still similarities between Jewish and Palestinian Holocaust . The Palestinian Holocaust has the all the hallmarks of previous holocausts; the long-term use of state terror including the dispossession of 90% of the land, forcing of over four million Palestinians into ghettos with a Nazi style encirclement, ethnic segregation and ethnic cleansing forcing some five million Palestinians to live in exile, the geographically constrained movement of Palestinians between Gaza and the West Bank, the continuous expansion of Jewish only settlements in the West Bank and the confiscation of Palestinian homes by Jews, the Jewish only roads and plethora of military check points and starving the people of Gaza. The ultimate aim is a “deliberate and systematic destruction” of the Palestinians as a national group.

    Warning: Some graphic images below

    http://www.eyeopening.info/2014/01/15/similarities-between-jewish-and-palestinian-holocaust/


  • #4213
    chicken foot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭chicken foot


    Absolutely harrowing images! There can de no denying of what Israel is doing, I defy anyone to tell me otherwise! The filthy, sadistic, child murdering bastards!!! May we never forget what they have done, Long live Palestine and it's people! They have more courage, dignity and respect in their little fingers than the whole of Zionist Israel combined!


  • #4214
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    NotASheeple wrote: »
    Circular argument? What are you on about? There is no 'circular' argument. The IDF's indiscriminate murder of civilians and its flagrant disregard for Human Rights and the Geneva Convention isn't a argument, it is a FACT!



    Fyp, you made the silly mistake of speaking on behalf of everyone.
    You are right. It isn't a circular argument. It isn't even being argued in the mainstream media to any extent worth talking about, ie: an actual solution to the endless inhumane treatment of the Palestinians. Remember the powers that be are well able to invade countries to bring "peace" but seem alarmingly unable to do anything here, despite the flood of graphic images etc. online.
    israel are expanding yet again while something more interesting happens elsewhere and they know it.
    Hit the ****ers where it hurts and boycott their products as much as possible. Barcode number 729 i think it was? Thats a long term game i aim to play and so should all of us.


  • #4215
    TommyKnocker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    There is an app for that :)

    I have an app on my phone called "buycott" which is a bar code scanner. during set up you pick what you what to boycott, Israel because of the Palestine issues, and then you scan the barcode of products and the app will alert you if the product in any way benefits the Israeli economy. It works really well.


  • #4216
    FifaPlaya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭FifaPlaya


    TommyKnocker wrote: »
    There is an app for that :)

    I have an app on my phone called "buycott" which is a bar code scanner. during set up you pick what you what to boycott, Israel because of the Palestine issues, and then you scan the barcode of products and the app will alert you if the product in any way benefits the Israeli economy. It works really well.

    Whats it called?


  • #4217
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    FifaPlaya wrote: »
    Whats it called?

    Buycott


  • #4218
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Hamas fire 3 rockets this morning, IDF resume strikes, cease-fire over, round and round we go.


  • #4219
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Hamas fire 3 rockets this morning, IDF resume strikes, cease-fire over, round and round we go.

    Where does it say Hamas fired them?


  • #4220
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Where does it say Hamas fired them?
    It?


  • #4221
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    It?

    Anywhere?


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  • #4222
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Anywhere?

    You're right, it was probably Canada.


  • #4223
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    You're right, it was probably Canada.

    I have not seen a report that states Hamas fired the rockets hence me asking where does it say that Hamas were the group that fired the rockets? It probably was them but then there are many other groups over there with access to rockets so i was asking if there is evidence of Hamas firing them.

    The idiotic replies were not needed thanks.


  • #4224
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Anywhere?

    Had a quick look, would appear they landed in a field, the israel army are the ones who say this.


  • #4225
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have not seen a report that states Hamas fired the rockets hence me asking where does it say that Hamas were the group that fired the rockets? It probably was them but then there are many other groups over there with access to rockets so i was asking if there is evidence of Hamas firing them.

    The idiotic replies were not needed thanks.
    Totes soz xx


  • #4226
    Tuisceanch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Tuisceanch


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    You're right, it was probably Canada.


    The BBC website states that:

    "There was no immediate claim of responsibility from any of the Palestinian factions in Gaza, which is dominated by the Islamist movement Hamas. "

    I think the question that was asked of you was where did you hear the report that Hamas had claimed responsibility.


  • #4227
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    eeepaulo wrote: »
    Had a quick look, would appear they landed in a field, the israel army are the ones who say this.

    Well if those bastions of truth and justice say it's true then who am i to argue? I'm sure Mark Regev will be along soon enough to confirm how it was all the terrorists fault making terror attacks from terror tunnels with their terror fireworks and teaching their terror kids how to be terrorists.


  • #4228
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    Tuisceanch wrote: »
    The BBC website states that:

    "There was no immediate claim of responsibility from any of the Palestinian factions in Gaza, which is dominated by the Islamist movement Hamas. "

    I think the question that was asked of you was where did you hear the report that Hamas had claimed responsibility.

    "This rocket attack on Beersheba is a grave and direction violation of the cease-fire," Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said.

    That pillar of truth Mark Regev is here though to illuminate the situation for us


  • #4229
    Tuisceanch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Tuisceanch


    eeepaulo wrote: »
    "This rocket attack on Beersheba is a grave and direction violation of the cease-fire," Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said.

    That pillar of truth Mark Regev is here though to illuminate the situation for us


    Yes he is a very low tech android programmed to only spout the same drivel in a seemingly endless loop. Were there any human spokespersons for the Israeli government who could confirm their claim or more pertinently are there any humans in government in Israel?


  • #4230
    Tuisceanch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Tuisceanch


    On the subject of noted truth tellers here is an interview Hillary Clinton was 'summoned' to, in order to give her humanitarian take on Gaza amongst other things. It may be that people of her ilk are not actual lizards underneath but they sure are cold blooded.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/hillary-doctrine-one


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  • #4231
    Tuisceanch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Tuisceanch


    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.611250

    3:48 P.M. Three rockets explode in open areas near Be'er Sheva in southern Israel. No rocket-alert sirens sounded. The Israeli army says rockets sirens were not sounded prior to the fire, since the rockets' trajectories led into open areas.


    I suspect a hint of scepticism is being applied in that piece.


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