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Are beautiful people less lucky in love?

  • 17-08-2014 12:40PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭


    A slow realisation I have had over the years is that the majority of friends and acquaintances with failed marriages, a string of heart breaking relationships, bringing up kids alone, this sorta thing are all good looking, the type who wouldnt have to work at getting a partner. Conversely most of the happy relationships, my own included, that I know of are amongst ordinary people, the type who, whilst not quite scaring children in public certainly arent gonna grace the covers of VIP or Hello any time soon.
    Why might this be.
    Do The Plain Folk value what they have?
    Do The Beautiful people get it too easy?
    Does a Beautiful Persons success rate simply raise the odds of then having more failures.
    What?

    And yes this is a bit of a generalisation with exceptions either way.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Quality over quantity everyday but when you can have both why settle down and "be happy"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dayum


    I'm gorgeous and I've been with my gorgeous partner for nearly 10 years.

    Couldn't be happier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Yes because they more than likely go through a lot more relationships for the wrong reason.

    If you're ugly, your partner is with you for a reason and must love you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭NewYork1979


    I think so.

    I think good looking people have a habit of the Grass is Greener syndrome because they are used to a lot of attention and so they can mess up good relationships. They can develop a habit of liking having their ego stroked.

    The increased attention also leads to more flings/partners and thus more failures I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    Might have something to do with getting into the habit of going through a lot of different partners when younger. So when they settle down and a relationship gets into a bit of difficulty, jumping ship and finding something better is an actual option and possibly easier decision to make.

    Whereas those who don't have as many partners are not in the habit of having options and changing relationships so they may be more inclined to work on relationships.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Might have something to do with getting into the habit of going through a lot of different partners when younger. So when they settle down and a relationship gets into a bit of difficulty, jumping ship and finding something better is an actual option and possibly easier decision to make.

    Whereas those who don't have as many partners are not in the habit of having options and changing relationships so they may be more inclined to work on relationships.

    I agree. But with this comes misery. My mother in law who modelled in her day and her partner (Step father in law i suppose) who was an utter ladies man in his day both have estranged children, estranged partners/former spouses, and this is forever throwing up dramas and discord. Thank got Im not a babe!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    My last girlfriend........she died from exhaustion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭NewYork1979


    I agree too that there is more heartbreak in the end..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭yizorselves


    I think we are. We are constantly attracting other beautiful people and our beautiful partners the same.

    Its hard when there's a constant flow of beauty coming at both of you. Ugly people are so lucky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    I think personality speaks louder in relationship.

    i've seen some extremely beautiful women that love their average looking partner to death.

    I've also seen some extremely handsome men as well, that are very faithful to their partner. some, which are my firends, believe they've seen it all, some believe no one else can surpass their partner.

    i think it depends on the character of the person


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Ugly people are afraid to leave each other, in case nobody else will have them.

    Sure aren't they lucky ANYONE wanted them?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    There has to be more to life than just being really really good looking :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Yes, we are.

    Weep for us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Jennifer* and Jonathan Hart would say you're wrong.



    *She's goygeous


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    There has to be more to life than just being really really good looking :P


    Are you a 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭yizorselves


    Its probably not love we're unlucky in. More like like or lust...

    Love is wanting to be with someone and you cant properly put it into words why. They have an effect on you and its just the way life is.

    Its all chemicals innit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Jennifer* and Jonathan Hart would say you're wrong.



    *She's goygeous

    Now there was a ugly fcuker (Max).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    anncoates wrote: »
    Now there was a ugly fcuker (Max).

    And a commie sympathiser too..

    A good sod he was imho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    All the studies suggest the opposite. Better looking people are happier in general.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Good looking people simply have more options in the dating pool, a "higher market value" as it were, so having more options usually means more likelihood of straying and as Awkward Badger notes this usually means more partners when young, so they get more used to novelty. Plainer people have fewer options and are also more likely IME to value personality. Personality has also got "market value" but obvious good looks can overpower it.

    I would say if I was to be very reductive that people have a reproductive market value, but it can vary through life and can go up or down depending on different factors. EG the studious man in school who gets good results, a great degree and starts earning money, power and social respect gains value. In school he's not one of the "cool kids", but as an adult he's more attractive. It can go down to, so the "hot babe" at 18 loses market value as she ages and by the time she's 40 that value is significantly less. If she's not hitched at 35 she might drop her "standards" and go for a plainer man. He's a safer bet. If a hot guy and a hot woman get hitched at 25, by the time they're both 45, his value is going to be higher than hers(so long as he doesn't bloat up) and then you can have the midlife crisis where he leaves her for a younger model.

    This market value also comes in with couples where one is notably better looking than the other. They're actually quite uncommon and various research has shown this. People overwhelmingly hook up with partners of similar background, education, intelligence and looks. The less good looking one has some non looks based extra market value that makes up the difference. The obvious cliche is the billionaire old guy with the young swimwear model.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    And a commie sympathiser too..

    A good sod he was imho.

    "He got called a "Red son of a bitch" by the head of Colombia pictures :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 49 Faux Socialist


    Some of my best shags have been with ugly women and bbws. A lot of the time, good looking women can be shallow and lacking in emotions which aren't great attributes for the bedroom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy


    I've seen this a lot year's ago.
    A guy who wasn't the brightest spark or blessed with good looks get off with the best looking woman in the Club, because all the other guys thought they weren't good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    Geomy wrote: »
    A guy who wasn't the brightest spark or blessed with good looks get off with the best looking woman in the Club, because all the other guys thought they weren't good enough.

    Neil from the Inbetweeners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Good looking people simply have more options in the dating pool, a "higher market value" as it were, so having more options usually means more likelihood of straying and as Awkward Badger notes this usually means more partners when young, so they get more used to novelty. Plainer people have fewer options and are also more likely IME to value personality. Personality has also got "market value" but obvious good looks can overpower it.

    I would say if I was to be very reductive that people have a reproductive market value, but it can vary through life and can go up or down depending on different factors. EG the studious man in school who gets good results, a great degree and starts earning money, power and social respect gains value. In school he's not one of the "cool kids", but as an adult he's more attractive. It can go down to, so the "hot babe" at 18 loses market value as she ages and by the time she's 40 that value is significantly less. If she's not hitched at 35 she might drop her "standards" and go for a plainer man. He's a safer bet. If a hot guy and a hot woman get hitched at 25, by the time they're both 45, his value is going to be higher than hers(so long as he doesn't bloat up) and then you can have the midlife crisis where he leaves her for a younger model.

    This market value also comes in with couples where one is notably better looking than the other. They're actually quite uncommon and various research has shown this. People overwhelmingly hook up with partners of similar background, education, intelligence and looks. The less good looking one has some non looks based extra market value that makes up the difference. The obvious cliche is the billionaire old guy with the young swimwear model.

    Isn't this you here?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hKWmFWRVLlU#t=25


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Jennifer* and Jonathan Hart would say you're wrong.



    *She's goygeous
    The actor who played Jonathan Hart was in a relationship with the late Natalie Wood. Now SHE... was goygeous. :)

    As Joan Collins said: Being born beautiful is like being born rich and getting poorer as life goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,458 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Reindeer wrote: »

    A 7 minute version of a Barney Stinson joke? Ok then.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    A 7 minute version of a Barney Stinson "joke"? Ok then.

    Wibbs can likely argue there's merit to the "joke"...


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Reindeer wrote: »
    That's pretty funny IMH. :D I love some of the comments of the outraged. There's a good rebuttal to it too where a woman does the Pig/Money graph of men(also a left handed type. Coincidence, I think not...).

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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