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Tourists in Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    feargale wrote: »
    And which city has the misfortune to be cut off from Kilkenny?

    Galway. Pain in the hole to get too. The rest are pretty much motorway all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,634 ✭✭✭feargale


    _Brian wrote: »
    Imagine how surprised we are to see some up here in Cavan.

    They're probably searching for the leprechaun's pot o' gold - and the only pot they see on the map is the Shannon Pot,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭daviecronin


    Packrat wrote: »
    I am a tour guide and can answer some of your questions, but only from an American/Canadian pov as they are the nationalities I drive & guide:

    They are surprised that it doesn't rain all the time as they were told to expect by some drunken idiot from here that they met on "Saint Pattys day" in Chicago or wherever.

    They are surprised that we think HARP is piss. They think Bud is piss. Both views are correct.

    Tidy towns as a concept is fascinating to them. My group nearly wet themselves the other evening when they saw about 20 people painting the Flesk bridge voluntarily.

    They can't believe how much the landscape changes within 30 to 50 miles here.

    They think some people speak ONLY Irish and don't understand English...... I explain that thats just the wierd teacher people in Dublin.....

    They think Corned beef&cabbage is a thing here, I delight in explaining that its bacon&cabbage - especially if they are Jewish.

    They are surprised at how good the food in general here is. I explain how thats new...

    Sheep mesmerise them. I explain how donegal prople mesmerise sheep for nefarious purposes.

    They are constantly amazed at how nice everybody is to them, then on the last night of the tour, I drop them off in the Temple Bar, and tell them that the "craic" really gets going around 1 ish...

    They are the politest, most respectful tourists we get here.

    Actually they fvcking rock.

    Aww that's good to hear and I expected a lot of that. They wet themselves in shock when they saw people painting or?
    You should tell them too that Ireland is actually the most charitable country in the world! And also to spend their money heheheh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone II


    Packrat wrote: »
    I am a tour guide and can answer some of your questions, but only from an American/Canadian pov as they are the nationalities I drive & guide:

    They are surprised that it doesn't rain all the time as they were told to expect by some drunken idiot from here that they met on "Saint Pattys day" in Chicago or wherever.

    They are surprised that we think HARP is piss. They think Bud is piss. Both views are correct.

    Tidy towns as a concept is fascinating to them. My group nearly wet themselves the other evening when they saw about 20 people painting the Flesk bridge voluntarily.

    They can't believe how much the landscape changes within 30 to 50 miles here.

    They think some people speak ONLY Irish and don't understand English...... I explain that thats just the wierd teacher people in Dublin.....

    They think Corned beef&cabbage is a thing here, I delight in explaining that its bacon&cabbage - especially if they are Jewish.

    They are surprised at how good the food in general here is. I explain how thats new...

    Sheep mesmerise them. I explain how donegal prople mesmerise sheep for nefarious purposes.

    They are constantly amazed at how nice everybody is to them, then on the last night of the tour, I drop them off in the Temple Bar, and tell them that the "craic" really gets going around 1 ish...

    They are the politest, most respectful tourists we get here.

    Actually they fvcking rock.

    Then you ply them with alcohol & roofies & bugger them into oblivion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Everyone I know goes to Ireland either to visit family, go to fleadhs/festivals, or for stag dos. That's pretty much it.

    I went to Catholic schools where everyone was from an Irish background (parents or grandparents), until I moved to uni, I'd never met anyone who'd never been to Ireland. I was amazed when I moved that most English people haven't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Carry wrote: »
    Tralee has the Siamsa Tire, the National Folk Theatre, which is on the schedule for most organised tour groups, as is the medieval museum.
    And it's a "gateway" to the Dingle Peninsula with ample (and comparably cheap) accommodation especially for large groups.

    The town has a convenient location and a couple of touristy attractions. That's all really.

    As for the weather - all tourists know that Ireland is rainy and are surprised when there is a spell of fine weather.

    And most tourists buy a travel guide before travelling to Ireland and know what to expect. It's not like Spain where most are not interested in travelling as such but just hanging out at the beach and getting drunk.

    And no, don't ask tourist what they think of Ireland and the Irish! The Irish always do that and it gets tired. :pac:


    While Tralee would be a location price wise, Killarney to Dingle is an hour - ish, so Dingle doesn't need a "gateway". There's plenty of accommodation in Dingle itself too, and unlike Tralee, some really good restaurants. They're also less likely to be robbed/beaten up in just about ANY other town in Kerry.

    Siamsa tire is a tired tired attraction, and but for a few greedy travel agents (ahem state monopoly compamy gone "private" ahem) selling it at twice what the ticket is worth - it would be shut long ago. Both shows in Killarney are better as is the Trad on the Prom in Galway.

    Other than that I agree with most of your post.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭Pawn


    Tourists? Bloody foreign...


    ...wait...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Carry


    Packrat wrote: »
    While Tralee would be a location price wise, Killarney to Dingle is an hour - ish, so Dingle doesn't need a "gateway". There's plenty of accommodation in Dingle itself too, and unlike Tralee, some really good restaurants. They're also less likely to be robbed/beaten up in just about ANY other town in Kerry.

    Siamsa tire is a tired tired attraction, and but for a few greedy travel agents (ahem state monopoly compamy gone "private" ahem) selling it at twice what the ticket is worth - it would be shut long ago. Both shows in Killarney are better as is the Trad on the Prom in Galway.

    Other than that I agree with most of your post.

    Tour operators look for the cheaper option and tour groups eat at the hotel. They don't need nice restaurants and quaint pubs. And they don't venture out on their own.

    Anyway, the tours are planned by the operators. They have contracts with certain hotels. They "do" Killarney with National Park and Ring of Kerry, go to a hotel in Tralee with "evening entertainment" (I agree that Siamsa Tire is not the most exciting show, but it's there and tour operators get a special group price) and then go on to "do" Dingle. Or the other way round.

    With a schedule for a tour over, say, one week there is not much scope for choice.

    There might be plenty of accommodation in Dingle itself but it's either not suitable for a busload of tourist or they don't do contracts with tour operators or they don't fit in with the travel schedule.

    It's different for individual tourists. They wouldn't stay in Tralee or any other place like that. They certainly prefer nicer and usually more intimate accommodation.

    I'm in the tourist business btw. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Carry wrote: »
    Tour operators look for the cheaper option and tour groups eat at the hotel. They don't need nice restaurants and quaint pubs. And they don't venture out on their own.

    Anyway, the tours are planned by the operators. They have contracts with certain hotels. They "do" Killarney with National Park and Ring of Kerry, go to a hotel in Tralee with "evening entertainment" (I agree that Siamsa Tire is not the most exciting show, but it's there and tour operators get a special group price) and then go on to "do" Dingle. Or the other way round.

    With a schedule for a tour over, say, one week there is not much scope for choice.

    There might be plenty of accommodation in Dingle itself but it's either not suitable for a busload of tourist or they don't do contracts with tour operators or they don't fit in with the travel schedule.

    It's different for individual tourists. They wouldn't stay in Tralee or any other place like that. They certainly prefer nicer and usually more intimate accommodation.

    I'm in the tourist business btw. ;)

    Yes, certainly the tour operators get a reduced price, and then charge their guests the list+booking deposit.

    I'm also in the business, and understand your points, and Yes, there is an end of the market which Tralee suits....thankfully I'm in the other end ;-)

    No matter which way you slice it, its a hole of a town.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    Ya I agree like you always see tourists in the city but you'd love to tell them go to the heart of west cork or something- that's the real ireland

    Theres nothing to see in West Cork ..
    its full of farty men and hairy women

    The views are horrible and actually are photos pasted on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I've been in the USA for almost twenty years and i've talked to a lot of them who have been and advised others on going.

    They certainly dont visit for the weather.

    Be patient with them on the Irish thing. Most American visitors to Ireland probably consider themselves "Irish", which to them means their great great...great grand parents came from Ireland. However in the USA where everyone is identified by their ethnic background they would be Irish. SO thats why you'll have them looking you in the eye and saying they're Irish when they're plainly from California born and bred.

    And they've come from a country where anything over twenty years old is bulldozed and rebuilt. So just the sight of an irish house will have them swooning. Let alone a Castle. You have no idea how completely electrifying a Real Castle is to an American.

    Its like Game of Thrones and Disney and princesses and everything they've grown up being overwhelmed with all rolled into one. And then they find they're all over the place. You cant turn around without there being another castle.

    Driving scares the living sh*t out of them, as it should. I always tell them to get a small car. And to use their indicators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Carry wrote: »

    I'm in the tourist business btw. ;)

    I've heard that lack of accommodation in Connemara is a major issue holding back tourism growth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭stampydmonkey


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    I've heard that lack of accommodation in Connemara is a major issue holding back tourism growth.

    Theres a massive/big hotel in maam cross sitting empty so doubt that tbh.theres loads of holiday homes and plenty of b&bs and hotels in barna, spiddal, clifden, letterfrack, renvile, louisbergh, westport, castlebar, achill etc. Alot of these places will sit empty in the winter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    I've been in the USA for almost twenty years and i've talked to a lot of them who have been and advised others on going.

    I am an American that has been visiting Ireland and living in Ireland off and on for the last 20 years. I'll see if I can lend some perspective for you folks.
    They certainly dont visit for the weather.

    True, but most visit in the summer, so the weather is really a non-issue. Most Americans understand it takes rain to make things green. Many places in the States get far more rain than we do here. Locals are usually surprised to learn that my home town of Austin, Texas usually gets more rain than Ireland does. It's just that, in typical American fashion, we tend to try and get it all in at once(hurricanes, storms, etc). Seattle can get twice again the rain we get here.
    Be patient with them on the Irish thing. Most American visitors to Ireland probably consider themselves "Irish", which to them means their great great...great grand parents came from Ireland. However in the USA where everyone is identified by their ethnic background they would be Irish. SO thats why you'll have them looking you in the eye and saying they're Irish when they're plainly from California born and bred.

    This is a point I see some Irish on boards struggle with. America is vast, and it has been settled with vast quantities of Europeans(not the least of which are Irish), Asians, South Americans, etc etc. Americans are first and foremost American. They are well aware of this unless they are Texans - then they are first and foremost Texan. The point being, everyone from America aside from folks like my Cherokee Grandmother, are from somewhere else. So the issue of 'heritage' or 'descendence' is assumed when someone claims to be Irish. We no longer use terms like "I am originally of X descent" or "My family is from Ireland" etc. It's simply assumed when an American tells another American that they are Irish, that they are of Irish descent... somewhere along the line. It doesn't translate well over here, so I can understand the confusion. When folks ask me if I am "Indian" or "Native American", I tell them either that I am 'part Cherokee' or that my Grandmother was Cherokee. For all the issues the Irish seem to have over Irish descended Americans, I am amazed at the attention I get for being 1/4 Cherokee. In the states, while I was growing up, I would rarely tell folks I was part Cherokee because it was certainly not cool to be so back then. And I sure as hell wouldn't plop down on the Tahlequah Reservation and tell the locals "I'm Cherokee". Nah, folks - Americans are well aware they are not "Irish" the same way Russian descendant Americans are aware they are not Russians.
    And they've come from a country where anything over twenty years old is bulldozed and rebuilt. So just the sight of an irish house will have them swooning. Let alone a Castle. You have no idea how completely electrifying a Real Castle is to an American.

    I tell folks here when they catch me being electrocuted by ruins that everything this old in the States is either made from mud, is pottery, or is carved out of a mountain.
    Driving scares the living sh*t out of them, as it should. I always tell them to get a small car. And to use their indicators.


    My first job in Ireland was driving a lorrie in Dublin. How I never killed anyone is still a miracle to me. I murdered wing mirrors by the score, though.

    It has to be said, in my time in Ireland, I find the Irish are as completely confused about America and American culture as the Americans are of Irish. I try my best to be a good ambassador when I can. I am sure you good people do the same whilst Stateside... ;)


  • Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I grew up in Killarney and worked in hotels for almost 10 years while I was still in school/college. So I've spoken to a lot of tourists, mainly Americans!

    Some of them live up to the tourist stereotype alright. I told one American lady that I was in my first year of college a few years ago and she replied with "Oh wow, you guys have college over here?". Someone else in this thread mention their fascination with castles, it's true! I always had Americans asking me what the best castles are, and where they can buy castle "gifts" for their families.

    They have always been lovely though. Never really met any Americans I disliked. Except for some golfers, they can be a bit obnoxious. But maybe that's because it was usually a group of 10+ men and they were just trying to show off to each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭daviecronin


    It's great hearing different perspectives. I can agree with the whole, oh we are poor and have to work on the farm my whole life. How did she not think we had college? We are one of the most developed countries in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It's great hearing different perspectives. I can agree with the whole, oh we are poor and have to work on the farm my whole life. How did she not think we had college? We are one of the most developed countries in the world.

    Her idea of Ireland probably stemmed from some diddly eye Hollywood movie. Backward peasants riding an ass and cart and living in a thatched cottage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I've also never met an american who didnt love Ireland. And I dont think they were just being polite, I know people who have been sent to ireland for their work and had no choice and still came away loving the place.

    I tell americans who are thinking of going somewhere in Europe that they probably wouldnt find another country more welcoming than Ireland and I think thats true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭Packrat


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    I've also never met an american who didnt love Ireland. And I dont think they were just being polite, I know people who have been sent to ireland for their work and had no choice and still came away loving the place.

    I tell americans who are thinking of going somewhere in Europe that they probably wouldnt find another country more welcoming than Ireland and I think thats true.

    Not only that, but our tourism product ie restaurants, hotels, entertainment, scenery, archaeological sites, ease of services, etc is practically unmatched. Try the visitor experience in Paris or in Scotland or in Italy and then remember what we have here.
    One of the differences with Irl to the rest of European holidays is that most of our visitors experience the countryside extensively whereas in other countries people visit cities primarily.
    Dublin is great but Meath, for its archeology, Wicklow and all of the west coast set us apart from the rest.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭dubbie82


    Theres a massive/big hotel in maam cross sitting empty so doubt that tbh.theres loads of holiday homes and plenty of b&bs and hotels in barna, spiddal, clifden, letterfrack, renvile, louisbergh, westport, castlebar, achill etc. Alot of these places will sit empty in the winter

    I am a tour guide too, most of the time the hotels are chosen by the tour operators. If the people in charge would actually bother to check the accommodation or would listen to us on the frontline eg, tour guides/drivers, before booking them a certain massive/big hotel in connemara would not get any guests. It has been sold recently but my understanding is that the manager is still the same as in the previous years.


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