Sheep Ailments/Illnesses

rangler1 · 31-07-2014 11:29AM

Green farmer wrote: »

How's it treated ?

Cortisone and tetracycline, cortisone would cure it but they seem to be prone to infection in the eyes so we give the antibiotic as a preventative...cant send to the factory for 28 days, but it's not a problem as it knocks them back a month anyway

greysides · 31-07-2014 12:52PM

Green farmer wrote: »

How's it treated ?

Plus, remove from the immediate source of the problem.... light. House in a dungeon.

jt65 · 31-07-2014 01:43PM

had a charolais ram get it (of course he was the most expensive ram I ever bought)

dark house,

got it again second year didnt even hesitate straight to factory

razor8 · 31-07-2014 06:54PM

Used to see it the odd time when shearing contracting, they look to have extreme end of it

Green farmer · 31-07-2014 06:57PM

Between all the things sheep can or do get, you can see how you need 20 % replacements in your flock every year.

rangler1 · 13-08-2014 06:31PM

jt65 wrote: »

had a charolais ram get it (of course he was the most expensive ram I ever bought)

dark house,

got it again second year didnt even hesitate straight to factory

Two more cases this week, one died, all of the infected ones are Lleyns....

jt65 · 13-08-2014 07:00PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Two more cases this week, one died, all of the infected ones are Lleyns....

nasty dose,

can only think of 2 cases in sheep the ram & a lamb by him , had a very white fr cow with it about the same time

are all the Lleyns the same bloodlines?

rangler1 · 13-08-2014 08:22PM

jt65 wrote: »

nasty dose,

can only think of 2 cases in sheep the ram & a lamb by him , had a very white fr cow with it about the same time

are all the Lleyns the same bloodlines?

you could be right, the flock had four rams with them, there could be one of them prone to it.....it's not a big problem ....just annoying

Green farmer · 15-08-2014 12:00PM

Have a few lambs here with sores or red blisters around their lips ? Any one come across this before, ? could just be nettles or something causing it .
Thanks !!!

Username John · 15-08-2014 12:47PM

Green farmer wrote: »

Have a few lambs here with sores or red blisters around their lips ? Any one come across this before, ? could just be nettles or something causing it .
Thanks !!!

Orf?

EDIT : Google Orf in sheep for a few images, and it'll tell you (I wont now, cos I'm at work)

We got a very bad dose of it this year. We'd often get a small bit, but they got it on their mouth and feet bad enough this year. We didnt do anything really to treat, maybe some iodine on the very bad cases, but we just let it run its course.

greysides · 15-08-2014 12:49PM

Orf is nasty to humans too. Wear gloves.

rangler1 · 15-08-2014 01:23PM

Username John wrote: »

Orf?

EDIT : Google Orf in sheep for a few images, and it'll tell you (I wont now, cos I'm at work)

We got a very bad dose of it this year. We'd often get a small bit, but they got it on their mouth and feet bad enough this year. We didnt do anything really to treat, maybe some iodine on the very bad cases, but we just let it run its course.

We get it here too, mostly ignore it, as long as the skin isn't broken on it it'll take its course, but if they're short of grass and have to graze near thistles, nettles, or briars, they will get infected and that's when the trouble starts

Green farmer · 15-08-2014 01:56PM

Thanks guys. Was weaning some lambs off ewes when I spotted it. Then coming down the field I saw a lamb with bad case of maggots.this will be the Last year I use ectofly. Next year back to click. The 6 week cover period shoots by so quick and next thing you know ......

sea12 · 15-08-2014 08:54PM

[quot. Then coming down the field I saw a lamb with maggots.this will be the Last year I use ectofly. Next year back to click. The 6 week cover period shoots by so quick and next thing you know ......[/quote]

Same here. Last week after tullamore show has to get lambs in as sure lamb had maggots. When I got them in she was quite raw and had had maggots but were gone out of her. Don't find it as good as click. Will be back to click for next yr.

Green farmer · 22-08-2014 11:11AM

I read up the old threads here from rangler and Con in relation to orf. They recommended salt lick blocks. Sourced a weather proof mineralised salt lick that had magmesium, zinc, iron , iodine and cobalt in it , so left it in field with lambs. Was cheap at €13 in the coop, for 20kg of a block. Thanks for yer help.
Should clear it up.

rangler1 · 17-09-2014 07:55AM

jt65 wrote: »

nasty dose,

can only think of 2 cases in sheep the ram & a lamb by him , had a very white fr cow with it about the same time

are all the Lleyns the same bloodlines?

Bought a new ram last year, DNA'd him and three of the sick ones....he was the sire of only one of them, so no connection there

westman1 · 17-09-2014 08:36PM

get it occasionally treated the two affected with vit b12 they turned in side out but havet had any this year so cannot test theory again

rangler1 · 19-09-2014 06:15PM

Was dipping today, had one batch, 120 hoggets that were shorn at Tulamore show., 11th aug ...at least 5 had maggots,
so it's revving up again

Green farmer · 19-09-2014 07:04PM

My heart is broken with them. I'm putting ectofly on every week now and the maggots keep coming. Was thinking of going buying a dip product and mixing it up in a knap sack or something. Putting click on early next year.

razor8 · 19-09-2014 07:58PM

Green farmer wrote: »

My heart is broken with them. I'm putting ectofly on every week now and the maggots keep coming. Was thinking of going buying a dip product and mixing it up in a knap sack or something. Putting click on early next year.

Same here, some waste of money,

sea12 · 19-09-2014 09:27PM

razor8 wrote: »

Same here, some waste of money,

It's. It as good as click I agree but the the ones that are getting it are dirty ends. Very humid so ideal maggotsy weather

rangler1 · 19-09-2014 09:40PM

sea12 wrote: »

It's. It as good as click I agree but the the ones that are getting it are dirty ends. Very humid so ideal maggotsy weather

Couldn't believe it today, , we weigh here two days before going to the factory and if I get a factory lamb with maggots I just put salty water on him rather than worrying about withdrawal
I even went back out to recheck the lambs, maggots do a lot of harm very quick this time of the year.
Did the 500 ewes with full wool and about 650 lambs this year with Clik and had 3 cases of maggots and those were in the last couple week.....hope it never starts to break down

Green farmer · 19-09-2014 11:05PM

Mine are getting dirty ends as well. I did them with Albex last weekend at same time as applying ectofly. The minute the maggots strike causes lamb to scour worse though .

rangler1 · 15-01-2015 11:16AM

rangler1 wrote: »

Bought a new ram last year, DNA'd him and three of the sick ones....he was the sire of only one of them, so no connection there

Just a follow on from the Photosensitization. I got the livers tested of the last load of lambs for copper, these got copper bolus in July, Vendeens were perfect but the Lleyns were suffering from copper poisoning and the worst affected were two surviving Lleyns of Photosensitization, so my vet reckons that pressure on the liver from the copper brought on the Photosensitization.
I talked to the animax salesman and they're querying is there a bit of texel sneaking into the Lleyn breed and so making them vulnerable to copper poisoning......any way just a heads up to you guys that's thinking of putting copper into Lleyns.
Hopefully I've solved where the Photosensitization came from, I lost 6 lambs because of it

Username John · 15-01-2015 11:19AM

rangler1 wrote: »

Just a follow on from the Photosensitization. I got the livers tested of the last load of lambs for copper, these got copper bolus in July, Vendeens were perfect but the Lleyns were suffering from copper poisoning and the worst affected were two surviving Lleyns of Photosensitization, so my vet reckons that pressure on the liver from the copper brought on the Photosensitization.
I talked to the animax salesman and they're querying is there a bit of texel sneaking into the Lleyn breed and so making them vulnerable to copper poisoning......any way just a heads up to you guys that's thinking of putting copper into Lleyns.
Hopefully I've solved where the Photosensitization came from, I lost 6 lambs because of it

Were they pure Lleyns Rangler, or Lleyn cross?

Glad to hear you got to the bottom of the problem.

rangler1 · 15-01-2015 11:26AM

Username John wrote: »

Were they pure Lleyns Rangler, or Lleyn cross?

Glad to hear you got to the bottom of the problem.

They'd be about three quarter bred Lleyn

Green farmer · 15-01-2015 11:26AM

Username John wrote: »

Were they pure Lleyns Rangler, or Lleyn cross?

Glad to hear you got to the bottom of the problem.

Just goes to show the value of being animals to the lab. Same cost or cheaper then knackery, but results invaluable.

rangler1 · 15-01-2015 11:45AM

Green farmer wrote: »

Just goes to show the value of being animals to the lab. Same cost or cheaper then knackery, but results invaluable.

Just shows you, you have to monitor new ideas.........very easy take a backward step.
Vendeens are responding very well to the bolus, so it wasn't all for nothing

Green farmer · 15-01-2015 11:58AM

rangler1 wrote: »

Just shows you, you have to monitor new ideas.........very easy take a backward step.
Vendeens are responding very well to the bolus, so it wasn't all for nothing

I had a lamb at the labs a few weeks ago. I was sure that it was a copper issue, so spoke to guy doing autopsy and asked to pay particular to liver. Turned out copper levels were fine but lamb had high worm count. This was despite the fact that I dosed them a few weeks previous. Then I was thinking about resistance issues until I read elsewhere of explosions in worm hatchings out of season in nov/ dec because of mild weather. The more up to date and clued in you are, can some times be the difference between spotting issues versus things going under the radar for years , killing sheep as well.

rangler1 · 15-01-2015 12:03PM

Green farmer wrote: »

I had a lamb at the labs a few weeks ago. I was sure that it was a copper issue, so spoke to guy doing autopsy and asked to pay particular to liver. Turned out copper levels were fine but lamb had high worm count. This was despite the fact that I dosed them a few weeks previous. Then I was thinking about resistance issues until I read elsewhere of explosions in worm hatchings out of season in nov/ dec because of mild weather. The more up to date and clued in you are, can some times be the difference between spotting issues versus things going under the radar for years , killing sheep as well.

Unreal worm counts around in October November, lambs are supposed to be dosed when the worm count goes over 500, a neighbour brought a sample here that registered 2800, not much thrive going on there....only dosed 6 weeks

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