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Sheep Ailments/Illnesses

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    The answer is here.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    greysides wrote: »
    The answer is here.

    Thanks for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Found 2 dead lambs this morning. 2 - 3 weeks old. both had no signs except blood stains from the nose. I dont vaccinate .
    They werent hungry
    Any diagnosis? anything i can do to prevent further issues? . Up to this i've been flying with no avoidable deaths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭westman1


    Found 2 dead lambs this morning. 2 - 3 weeks old. both had no signs except blood stains from the nose. I dont vaccinate .
    They werent hungry
    Any diagnosis? anything i can do to prevent further issues? . Up to this i've been flying with no avoidable deaths


    vaccinate............. propably pasturella pneumonia


    2 dead lambs =200 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Sami23


    westman1 wrote: »
    vaccinate............. propably pasturella pneumonia


    2 dead lambs =200 euro


    I vaccinated the ewes about 5 weeks before lambing with Heptavac. Just wondering is there any need to now vaccinate the lambs or are they covered from their mothers ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Sami23 wrote: »
    I vaccinated the ewes about 5 weeks before lambing with Heptavac. Just wondering is there any need to now vaccinate the lambs or are they covered from their mothers ?

    You need to use Heptavac P+ to cover for pasturella pneumonia, giving the ewes those vaccines should cover the lambs for at least 6 weeks from birth for pneumonia and 10 weeks for the clostridial diseases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    so if you were in my situation... lambs between 0 and 3 weeks old and never vacinated and want to start ..where do you start ? just vacinate lambs now and ewes later in the year?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Ovipast Plus


    Indications for use
    For the active immunisation of sheep as an aid in the control of pasteurellosis caused by M.haemolytica and P.trehalosi. The vaccine maybe used as an aid in the control of pneumonic pasteurellosis in sheep of all ages from a minimum age of 3 weeks and in the control of systemic pasteurellosis in weaned fattening and breeding sheep.
    The vaccine may be used in pregnant ewes as an aid in the control of pasteurellosis in their lambs provided that the lambs receive sufficient immune colostrum during the first 1-2 days of life.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭westman1


    lambs no point under 2 weeks ewes once in autumn then again 5-6 weeks before lambing .i repeat my lambs from 5-8 weeks after lambing and any lambs left in october but thats just me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    westman1 wrote: »
    lambs no point under 2 weeks ewes once in autumn then again 5-6 weeks before lambing .i repeat my lambs from 5-8 weeks after lambing and any lambs left in october but thats just me

    You vaccinate the ewes before lambing, then the lambs at around 8 weeks, than whatever is left in Oct...
    Seems a lot.
    But I guess the flip side one dead lamb would buy a good bottle of vaccine...

    I do the ewes before lambing and that's it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    You vaccinate the ewes before lambing, then the lambs at around 8 weeks, than whatever is left in Oct...
    Seems a lot.
    But I guess the flip side one dead lamb would buy a good bottle of vaccine...

    I do the ewes before lambing and that's it.

    Same here, but if I have a couple sudden deaths in the lambs I vaccinate again.....very seldom need to do the lambs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭westman1


    I do the ewes before lambing and that's it.


    i used to get away with that but was loosing one or two reaLLY GOOD ones so have increased times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Looking for a diagnosis

    Have a hogget with what looks like more than 1 sore foot . Plus she is lifting 1 front leg way too high when walking. Also puts it down on the knuckle sometimes
    Her feet look ok to me , hooves a bit soft but that's it . Treated them anyway . She's the same for about 4 days now no worse or better . Gave alymicin in case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    I have had a couple of ewes lambing with very large udders of milk, and in particular, swelled teats. I have been milking them out and feeding their lambs on a bottle, and they are slowly learning to suck from their mothers. My question is what is the clinical cause of this, what is it called, and can it be avoided the following year? (Sorry, that is 3 questions :) )
    I never used to have this at all, but it has popped up a few times in the last few years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    I have had a couple of ewes lambing with very large udders of milk, and in particular, swelled teats. I have been milking them out and feeding their lambs on a bottle, and they are slowly learning to suck from their mothers. My question is what is the clinical cause of this, what is it called, and can it be avoided the following year? (Sorry, that is 3 questions :) )
    I never used to have this at all, but it has popped up a few times in the last few years.

    Is a genetic thing - could it be traced to a particular ram?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    has anyone ever seem a lamb (8 weeks old) with a dirty arse, anyone ever seen one pass out a full worm? i was just down the field herding and as im dosing them tommorrow for worms for the first time this season i said i would inspect the dung the lamb had just passed, he just after doing it as i walked up, i had a look, and between some very liquid sh*t was a massive worm, looked a bit like a tapeworm, it was about 4 inches long x a half inch wide and was moving still. jaysus any wonder i thought the lambs wernt thriving for their age. i put it down to the turn in weather. anyway dosing them all in the morning with trabazole 2.5%. what was the worm i seen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    I have had a couple of ewes lambing with very large udders of milk, and in particular, swelled teats. I have been milking them out and feeding their lambs on a bottle, and they are slowly learning to suck from their mothers. My question is what is the clinical cause of this, what is it called, and can it be avoided the following year? (Sorry, that is 3 questions :) )
    I never used to have this at all, but it has popped up a few times in the last few years.
    What age are the ewes, you'll get it in older ewes, particularly texel, but also other breeds. anyway it's not unusual, but it's a cullable offence here anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    has anyone ever seem a lamb (8 weeks old) with a dirty arse, anyone ever seen one pass out a full worm? i was just down the field herding and as im dosing them tommorrow for worms for the first time this season i said i would inspect the dung the lamb had just passed, he just after doing it as i walked up, i had a look, and between some very liquid sh*t was a massive worm, looked a bit like a tapeworm, it was about 4 inches long x a half inch wide and was moving still. jaysus any wonder i thought the lambs wernt thriving for their age. i put it down to the turn in weather. anyway dosing them all in the morning with trabazole 2.5%. what was the worm i seen?

    It probably is a tapeworm, I don't think normal worm drenches kill them, ordinary worms aren't usually visible in the dung and they wouldn't be that size anyway


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Almost certainly a tapeworm. Thiabendazole is meant to kill them. Usually they're considered harmless unless present in huge numbers.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    greysides wrote: »
    Almost certainly a tapeworm. Thiabendazole is meant to kill them. Usually they're considered harmless unless present in huge numbers.

    Yea, just looked it up, you're right, Thiabendazole does kill them, and as you say they seem to be harmless, despite the look of em


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    lord hard to believe such a thing could be harmless, awful looking creature, like something out of the x-files! my lambs do need a worm dose though now , prob should have got it 2 weeks ago. i think il worm the ewes this year to try and break the worm cycle would anyone else worm ewes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    rangler1 wrote: »
    What age are the ewes, you'll get it in older ewes, particularly texel, but also other breeds. anyway it's not unusual, but it's a cullable offence here anyway

    Thanks.
    Ya I have often heard of it alright. This last lady would be around 5 - not that old really. Was just wondering if anyone had any more info on it, like what causes it, is it any relation to mastitis, can it be treated and what would be best to treat it with, how likely is it to come back etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Have a ewe with triplets after lambing yesterday,really good bag on her,there's on fairly big lamb with her and two smaller ones,their under a lamp but I noticed one of the smaller lambs has a lump on his right hand side beside his back leg on his belly,it pretty big and its soft enough.Any ideas what it is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    IH784man wrote: »
    Have a ewe with triplets after lambing yesterday,really good bag on her,there's on fairly big lamb with her and two smaller ones,their under a lamp but I noticed one of the smaller lambs has a lump on his right hand side beside his back leg on his belly,it pretty big and its soft enough.Any ideas what it is?

    It could be a hole that's letting the intestines out through the muscle.......like a hernia, we get a bit of that here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    rangler1 wrote: »
    It could be a hole that's letting the intestines out through the muscle.......like a hernia, we get a bit of that here.

    What's the best way to cure this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    IH784man wrote: »
    What's the best way to cure this?

    If that's what it is, a vet would probably fix it, usually too busy to do anything about it here, got one done here just cos the vet was out and he died


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