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When was the last time you were outraged at a stupid charge?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    The Heathrow Express. It's handy but you always feel like you've been mugged as you stick your card into that machine and it charges you €31 for a 16 Min, 17 mile train trip.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    When was the last time someone tried to charge you for something you thought would be free?

    We were in a large Dublin shopping centre yesterday with the kids. Decided to have smoothies all round as a treat, they are pricey enough, but they're tasty :)

    Anyway, spent the guts of 18 euro on 2 large, and 2 kids smoothies. The youngest (nearly 2) decided she didn't want her smoothie, said she didn't like hers and insisted she wanted mine.

    I headed back to the smoothie stand, asked your one there for a small plastic cup so I could pour some of mine info it for the baby.

    "50cent" she said. :mad:

    I basically told her that I was after handing her a twenty euro note for a few non alcoholic drinks, from which I got very little change.

    "That's our policy" she said.

    I asked to see the manager, she replied she was the manager.

    Told her I'd never be back there.:mad:


    Any similar tales?
    Don't you know yet that kids always want what you have? Lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    The Heathrow Express. It's handy but you always feel like you've been mugged as you stick your card into that machine and it charges you €31 for a 16 Min, 17 mile train trip.

    The Gatwick express is just as bad, you pay twice the price of an equivalent Southern or FCC fare to save the grand total of 7-10 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    RoboRat wrote: »
    You can apply that logic to a lot of things we pay for, ie a toasted cheese and ham sandwich for instance or people who pay to get their shoes shined in the airport.
    Not sure what you are getting at there. It could be compared, imagine having to pay €50 to toast a ham sandwich, a large catering oven might cost the same as one of these coin counting machines, and I would similarly think it ludicrous to pay €50 for a few minutes use.

    RoboRat wrote: »
    If people can't be arsed to count their coins and are happy to use them, I don't see the problem.
    I think most do not realise how much they are paying to use it. I have rarely heard people moan about paying €50 to use it, I expect most do not bother to calculate it, they are blind to the amount they put in. They come away thinking "amazing, I had €500 in that bucket, way more than I thought" and go off happy. If the machine openly said "you have entered €550 in coins, do you want to continue and get issued a shopping voucher, the charge will be €50". I expect many would reject the offer and then go home & count it.
    RoboRat wrote: »
    If they are not up front about their charges, then I see a problem but I have yet to see one that isn't.
    Tesco aren't, theres numerous threads about it. In these threads many people were saying the complainers were incorrect and that they did get all the money, but then it turned out these people were paying the commission, and had been decieved. One guy even complained and got a refund of the commission.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    Being pursued SEVERALLY for a tenancy agreement... Annoys the crap outta me. Only reason I'm alone there is because a judge banned the other tenant from the house!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    Not sure what you are getting at there. It could be compared, imagine having to pay €50 to toast a ham sandwich, a large catering oven might cost the same as one of these coin counting machines, and I would similarly think it ludicrous to pay €50 for a few minutes use.

    I was basically saying that companies charge for a service, yeah it may seem extortionate but you choose to pay it. You could easily make a toasted cheese and ham sambo at home for a fraction of the cost, all you need is bread, cheese, ham and a toaster. Likewise, you can buy a money counter for around €100 - €150 if you are so inclined.

    Those machines can't have set fees as it would severely limit the customer base so they take a percentage. The one in my local Tesco has a sign saying 10% commission, it has had that since it was installed you can either use it against your shopping or cash it in. If there are some that are not as transparent, then I agree there is an issue but I haven't seen one yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    RoboRat wrote: »
    I was basically saying that companies charge for a service, yeah it may seem extortionate but you choose to pay it. You could easily make a toasted cheese and ham sambo at home for a fraction of the cost, all you need is bread, cheese, ham and a toaster. Likewise, you can buy a money counter for around €100 - €150 if you are so inclined.

    Those machines can't have set fees as it would severely limit the customer base so they take a percentage. The one in my local Tesco has a sign saying 10% commission, it has had that since it was installed you can either use it against your shopping or cash it in. If there are some that are not as transparent, then I agree there is an issue but I haven't seen one yet.

    You're right RoboRat,

    I used to get a bit impatient with punters when working for a major hotel chain as we used to offer drinks and light snacks at Reception and people used to become very resentful at what they thought were the high prices.

    For starters, the Manager sets the prices not me, so I told visitors that they were welcome to take it up with him in the morning (I was working nights) - also if they felt too much was being asked of them DO NOT BUY - it's that simple!

    To this day whenever I go away I make a habit of keeping a bag of hard candies or a few cakes in my suitcase in case I get back late to the hotel and fancy a snack - am surprised others don't do the same..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    The Gatwick express is just as bad, you pay twice the price of an equivalent Southern or FCC fare to save the grand total of 7-10 minutes.

    Amen brother, I also have found the saving on time can actually be less than that - although the Express leaves every 15 minutes many of the local train services are much more regular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    The Gatwick express is just as bad, you pay twice the price of an equivalent Southern or FCC fare to save the grand total of 7-10 minutes.

    And it's not even snazzy on board. Feels like the old Cork-Dublin train.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    RoboRat wrote: »
    I was basically saying that companies charge for a service, yeah it may seem extortionate but you choose to pay it. You could easily make a toasted cheese and ham sambo at home for a fraction of the cost, all you need is bread, cheese, ham and a toaster. Likewise, you can buy a money counter for around €100 - €150 if you are so inclined.

    Those machines can't have set fees as it would severely limit the customer base so they take a percentage. The one in my local Tesco has a sign saying 10% commission, it has had that since it was installed you can either use it against your shopping or cash it in. If there are some that are not as transparent, then I agree there is an issue but I haven't seen one yet.

    Any links please i allways thought they were free:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    RoboRat wrote: »
    I was basically saying that companies charge for a service, yeah it may seem extortionate but you choose to pay it.
    The cost is not upfront & clear, as per the previous poster who also thought it was free, many do. I have never used their machines but from the numerous threads I read I do not think it reports how much money you have actaully put in, and I am guessing once counted it does not give an option to return it. It is taking 9 or 10% and are cleverly playing on the fact that people vastly underestimate how much money they actually have, so they do not think in advance it will cost €50 to use the machine. I have never once heard a person exclaim "I had a big pot of money at home and do you know what it turned out to be? only €20 :(" it is without fail an excalmation of shock at how much it really was.

    Here is a thread about the tesco one. You will see a mod of both bargain alerts & the business forums was also under the impression it was free, the type of person you would expect to be more aware of scams than most
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055900116

    the offer of the voucher is the sneaky bit that catches people, as I said in that thread...
    In my tesco you can put the money in and get the money back or a voucher for tesco. So at first I thought "well they must take commission on the money but the tesco voucher must be full value" -this was my (incorrect) presumption because if not I would have the question -who in their right mind would want a voucher only usable in tesco instead of cash. I reckon many people would have the same reasonable logic and fall for this scam.

    another guy who fell for it
    E30i wrote: »
    Has anybody used one of the Coin Changing machines in Tesco Ireland Stores. They charge a commission of about 9.6% for getting the cash value. However the machine instructions outline that you can 'Redeem the full value against your shopping at any Tesco store'.

    I recently changed coins to the value of €117.06 (Penny Jar)in one of these machines. This gave a cash value of €106.06 after commission. I fully understand the commission structure leading to this cash value.
    However I understood from the instructions on the machine that I had 2 options
    1) Redeem the full value against your shoping at any Tesco Store
    or
    2) Exchange for cash at the Customer Service Desk.

    Given the use of the word 'full' in option 1 (and repeated on the voucher I received) I had the expectation that I could use the €117.06 value against my shopping. However in Tesco Wexford this morning the manager insisted that this is incorrect and that whether I choose cash or to redeem against my shopping the only value on my voucher is €106.06.

    Anyone else find this misleading or have the same experience? I rang the machine operators but only got a recorded message. I have now e-mailed both Tesco Ireland and the machine operators to clarify the position and outline why the term 'Full Value' means the coin value less commission rather than the full coin value which I think is a reasonable assumption.


    RoboRat wrote: »
    Those machines can't have set fees as it would severely limit the customer base so they take a percentage.
    Not sure what you mean there. They certainly could have set fees. They might need to have an upper limit of coins so they do not run out but I see not reason they could not have a set fee. Many people use the tesco self service checkouts as a type of "free" coin counting service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    Amen brother, I also have found the saving on time can actually be less than that - although the Express leaves every 15 minutes many of the local train services are much more regular.

    I think I heard that they changed this lately, but Gatwick Express used to have to accept regular fare tickets as the regular full fare tickets stated that they were for any applicable route. Oddly enough nobody mentioned this fact when they were trying to flog me the overpriced tickets! Used this one many times! :D


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