Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Whatsisname · 13-08-2014 09:54PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dunno whats funnier, the fact that they'd believe Hull would actually get him or anybody would pay £14m for him though in saying that if they get £12m for Long, anything is possible.

for £14million id carry him to Hull on my back. however, given that we already look set to lose 10+ players this summer, Welbeck is going nowhere and he is going to be a really important player in LVGs eyes.

In a league where Lallana goes for £25m and Shane Long goes for £12.5m, I'd be wanting £25m+ for Welbeck...as crazy as that sounds.

Blatter · 13-08-2014 09:55PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dunno whats funnier, the fact that they'd believe Hull would actually get him or anybody would pay £14m for him though in saying that if they get £12m for Long, anything is possible.

for £14million id carry him to Hull on my back. however, given that we already look set to lose 10+ players this summer, Welbeck is going nowhere and he is going to be a really important player in LVGs eyes.

In today's market and considering English tax, Welbeck is easily worth £20m imo. I'd laugh at a bid of £14m.

glued · 13-08-2014 09:57PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Miguel Delaney painting a panicky picture about Utd's transfer movements.

I imagine some will agree and some will disregard it.

He hasn't a clue and has no more information than you or I.

Ed The Equalizer · 13-08-2014 10:00PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Miguel Delaney painting a panicky picture about Utd's transfer movements.

I imagine some will agree and some will disregard it.

I'd say that's a pretty reasonable picture of it and can't imagine LVG is happy

KombuchaMshroom · 13-08-2014 10:01PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dunno whats funnier, the fact that they'd believe Hull would actually get him or anybody would pay £14m for him though in saying that if they get £12m for Long, anything is possible.

for £14million id carry him to Hull on my back. however, given that we already look set to lose 10+ players this summer, Welbeck is going nowhere and he is going to be a really important player in LVGs eyes.

14 million is hardly "carry him on your back" out of the club type money.

Considering how much English players go for these days I would say that is a fair, if not undervaluation for Welbeck.

Amazes me how little people rate him sometimes.
If he was getting first team football for a Spurs or Everton type team he would be absolutely thriving.
Honestly, I even think if he was at Chelsea last season he could have made the difference for them, he would have fit in perfectly with Mourinho's style where he wants all his players hard working, strong, fast, capable of linking up with one another.

Talib Fiasco · 13-08-2014 10:01PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Some hope of getting Benatia and Strootman (in January probably) off Roma.

Getting Benatia would be incredible for ye... I know Hummels is treated like a God here but overall I think Benatia is a better player. His athleticism for one would be a massive boost in a league like the EPL. I think he's the best CB in the world atm. I'd be well impressed if ye landed him now or any time in the near future

RichFTW · 13-08-2014 10:01PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Miguel Delaney painting a panicky picture about Utd's transfer movements.

I imagine some will agree and some will disregard it.

I think the comment at the bottom is a better summary of what's going on:

In other news United is linked to "insert name here".

Cookiemunster · 13-08-2014 10:02PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Miguel Delaney painting a panicky picture about Utd's transfer movements.

I imagine some will agree and some will disregard it.

Well I do wonder who his sources are when every Manchester based journo is getting stone walled.

homerjay2005 · 13-08-2014 10:07PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Miguel Delaney painting a panicky picture about Utd's transfer movements.

I imagine some will agree and some will disregard it.

i have great time for him and think he is a really decent, honest lad but of course as usual, people on here will just dismiss it as nonsense and that he is a spoofer.

saying that LVG is getting pissed off with how the club have acted however is not rocket science, its pretty believable as no way would a man as organised, experienced, detailed and cultured as him have been happy to go into the season with such an unprepared defence as we are now doing.

his bit about Vidal however does give me hope that it will eventually be done.

dixiefly · 13-08-2014 10:09PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Away to MK Dons......wouldnt mind going to that one, very decent away trip.

Yes, we stayed at the ground during the summer. Great hotel and also very close to Bletchley Park (home of the codebreakers).

http://doubletree3.hilton.com/en/hotels/united-kingdom/doubletree-by-hilton-hotel-milton-keynes-LTNDTDI/index.html

ericzeking · 13-08-2014 10:12PM

Ole is gone very grey...stresses of the job I suppose

bangkok · 13-08-2014 10:16PM

Welbeck is Well worth 15-20m, excellent player, loved by The united fans and he is bang on

DM_7 · 13-08-2014 10:24PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i have great time for him and think he is a really decent, honest lad but of course as usual, people on here will just dismiss it as nonsense and that he is a spoofer.

saying that LVG is getting pissed off with how the club have acted however is not rocket science, its pretty believable as no way would a man as organised, experienced, detailed and cultured as him have been happy to go into the season with such an unprepared defence as we are now doing.

his bit about Vidal however does give me hope that it will eventually be done.

To be fair while it is something people can envisage (Van Gall unhappy) and not unreasonable as a theory, its hardly unreasonable to suggest he is coming to conclusions on his own, a bit of guess work about what Van Gaal thinks rather than having any real knowledge of what Van Gaal is thinking.

homerjay2005 · 13-08-2014 10:27PM

the positive things from that Delaney article is that it appears LVG is intent on getting in 2 defenders that we all believe we need and the level of urgency has now been stepped up, probably since Vermalen deal went belly up.

Benatia wont be a quick deal, but the other 2 would be if we threw the right amount of money at both clubs (not saying thats something id agree with, but at this late stage we are desperate and may have no other choice).

based of what he has said, i think we can expect a signing or at least something formal in place by saturday with that player being available for our 2nd game.

fitzer1982 · 13-08-2014 10:30PM

If LVG is unhappy about anything we'll soon find out, he's not known for sulking in the corner and saying nothing.

DM_7 · 13-08-2014 10:37PM

fitze69 wrote: »

If LVG is unhappy about anything we'll soon find out, he's not known for sulking in the corner and saying nothing.

We might not though, unless he sees a good reason to speak publicly about something he won't.

I think we would be more likely to say it to Uniteds staff internally face to face.

If he is annoyed, it would damage prospects of getting deals done if he spoke about it publicly now as would provide an extra reason for clubs to demand more money.

Copper_pipe · 13-08-2014 10:39PM

Copper is half cut..

Adamcp898 · 13-08-2014 10:39PM

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Copper is half cut..

Leaving Cert results? :pac:

The Sparrow · 13-08-2014 10:39PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Well I do wonder who his sources are when every Manchester based journo is getting stone walled.

Whatever about the validity of the content in that article, it is really poorly written. He could definitely use a sub editor to improve his copy.

I generally like Miguel Delaney. However, bad writing really makes him look amateurish.

Bugatti · 13-08-2014 10:41PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i have great time for him and think he is a really decent, honest lad but of course as usual, people on here will just dismiss it as nonsense and that he is a spoofer.

saying that LVG is getting pissed off with how the club have acted however is not rocket science, its pretty believable as no way would a man as organised, experienced, detailed and cultured as him have been happy to go into the season with such an unprepared defence as we are now doing.

his bit about Vidal however does give me hope that it will eventually be done.

I'm half asleep so maybe I missed something in that article but I didnt see anything to suggest LVG is pissed off with the club. It said he is annoyed that the Vermalen and Vidal deals have not been completed. But this isnt the clubs fault. Arsenal/Wenger blocked Vermalen from moving to Utd. And as for Vidal the article even said that it was Juventus who are proving difficult to deal with.

Copper_pipe · 13-08-2014 10:41PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Leaving Cert results? :pac:

Got themmm lasty year but doesn't stop me going one on the lasjjj.

v3ttel · 13-08-2014 10:58PM

Not sure if somebody has mentioned it already, but we've been drawn against MK Dons in the second round of the League Cup.

I'd love to see Wilson, Blackett, Powell, Zaha, etc, get a good run in that competition.

ElChe32 · 13-08-2014 10:58PM

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Got themmm lasty year but doesn't stop me going one on the lasjjj.

Ha'boy Copper no better man

Whatsisname · 13-08-2014 11:08PM

Some crazy figures going around Twitter tonight for Cuadrado

J. Marston · 13-08-2014 11:14PM

This has entertained me for the past 5 minutes...

http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/08/the-incredible-transfer-rumour-generator/

Some funny ones I got...

MANCHESTER UNITED IN SHOCK £28.5M SWOOP FOR PAUL POGBA

Player spotted holding up scarf in remote corner of training ground

If only...

MANCHESTER UNITED CLOSING IN ON £36.1M MICAH RICHARDS

Ace admits: “I want to become a club hero”

Richards would actually be handy.

MANCHESTER UNITED LAND £59M DEAL FOR LEWIS HOLTBY

Ace spotted looking at houses near training ground

Bargain.

Montroseee · 13-08-2014 11:26PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Some crazy figures going around Twitter tonight for Cuadrado

The guy had a good world cup and suddenly he's a £30 million + player, absolutely crazy.

kryogen · 13-08-2014 11:27PM

60 million for Holtby and 28.5 for Pogba. What a wonderful world

homerjay2005 · 13-08-2014 11:34PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

To be fair while it is something people can envisage (Van Gall unhappy) and not unreasonable as a theory, its hardly unreasonable to suggest he is coming to conclusions on his own, a bit of guess work about what Van Gaal thinks rather than having any real knowledge of what Van Gaal is thinking.

Ah ya of course...i dont think he (md) wud do that tho!

14-08-2014 12:07AM

Montroseee wrote: »

The guy had a good world cup and suddenly he's a £30 million + player, absolutely crazy.

I hear they have football in Italy these days and that he's involved sometimes. Would need to check though...

Bob the Seducer · 14-08-2014 12:09AM

J. Marston wrote: »

This has entertained me for the past 5 minutes...

http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/08/the-incredible-transfer-rumour-generator/

Some funny ones I got...

If only...

Richards would actually be handy.

Bargain.

Of course when I tried it, the first one I got was:

MAN UTD CLOSING IN ON £32.4M TOM CLEVERLEY

Hot property will sign megabucks long-term deal

guess there's no value in the market...

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