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Israel - Palestine Conflict. **Mod note in OP - updated 1st August**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭NotASheeple


    jank wrote: »




    Why didn't you put up some links to used toilet paper instead?


    Because it would have had more credibility than that embarrassing nonsense you posted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭NotASheeple


    They're actually rather open military spies. They also have diplomatic immunity, which is why no nation ever does very much about them, except occasionally expel the odd one to make a point. .



    To say embassy based spies are 'open' would be inaccurate. They may be known to a host nations counter-intelligence agency. But to state that they are open is not accurate. The identity of a Station Chief will not be known to the public or the wider media. Stations Chiefs provide coordination and oversight of intelligence gathering in a host nation. Including CIA operatives within the embassy that a host nation will not know about. They are not there for a diplomatic party or two provide window dressing. You almost make it sound as if they a friendly, almost harmless necessity. Which of course is complete wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,591 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Do you know where they can be bought or are they given out there?

    Many of the 2 euro shops seem to have them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    To say embassy based spies are 'open' would be inaccurate. They may be known to a host nations counter-intelligence agency. But to state that they are open is not accurate. The identity of a Station Chief will not be known to the public or the wider media. Stations Chiefs provide coordination and oversight of intelligence gathering in a host nation. Including CIA operatives within the embassy that a host nation will not know about. They are not there for a diplomatic party or two provide window dressing. You almost make it sound as if they a friendly, almost harmless necessity. Which of course is complete wrong.

    I'm sure they're not there primarily for the host nation's interest. But the fact does remain that they are 'legal' spies, have diplomatic immunity, and the host nation can expel them. As a result, their activities cannot be held against the embassy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    jank wrote: »
    Ah, blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt argument.
    Hamas kills children, but Israel are to blame anyway. Classy.

    The only rapists are the Israelis, raping the Palestinians of their land and freedom,

    No theft of Palestinian land and no imprisonment of 1.8 million people would go a long way to stopping the fireworks and building of tunnels,

    How you can claim Israel is the victim defies all logic, but proves the effectiveness of the brainwashing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    They did. http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/38316-140726-report-hamas-used-child-labor-in-tunnel-building

    And dozens of them died while building the tunnels.

    And not just through accidents either, Hamas has been killing tunnel diggers to stop more of them from being discovered by IDF intelligence services. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183934#.U-mKf_ldV8E
    the URLS give away that this is nothing short of bull****

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jank wrote: »
    Ah, blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt argument.
    Hamas kills children, but Israel are to blame anyway. Classy.
    yet when israel kills children its the palestinians fault according to people.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,591 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    jank wrote: »
    Ah, blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt argument.
    Hamas kills children, but Israel are to blame anyway. Classy.

    I bet you're still blushing jank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Barcode Scanning App Used To Boycott Israel

    http://news.sky.com/story/1317330/barcode-scanning-app-used-to-boycott-israel
    More than 400,000 people are boycotting goods produced by Israeli-linked companies using a barcode scanning app.

    Buycott allows users to identify the source of products instantly so that purchases do not conflict with their beliefs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Chance The Rapper


    Kleenex are a conflict for the Palestinian campaigns. I'll have to get a different brand so.










    Or a girlfriend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I genuinely have no fucking idea what you are trying to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,591 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover



    No injuries luckily.
    Good job they weren't Turks.
    Israelis trying to provoke it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic



    Love this part......

    An Israeli army spokeswoman said a Palestinian motorboat in the area had "breached the naval military closure," and that Israeli naval soldiers "fired warning shots into the air."

    Translated into...A Fisherman's boat threatened to breach our illegally enforced blockade earlier today. So we opened fire accordingly, in order to maintain our illegal blockade.

    I supposed we can be only thankful they didn't target any 4-6 year old boys playing football on a nearby beach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭HazDanz


    Prince Saud Al-Faisal not holding back regarding Israel.

    http://www.arabnews.com/news/featured/615131


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    HazDanz wrote: »
    Prince Saud Al-Faisal not holding back regarding Israel.

    http://www.arabnews.com/news/featured/615131
    And yet, the double standards continue. Our esteemed leaders' complete lack of effort , for want of a better word, must mean they ALL have to not do or say anything bad about israel or there will be repercussions. Thats my take on it anyway. We regularly see sanctions imposed on countries for far lesser crimes and theres nothing of the sort here. We regularly see humanitarian aid being airlifted into places and theres posters and ads to "give generously for the poor starving kids" but theres nothing like that for poor Palestine.
    I think its a load of crap and i also think we are more or less wasting our time complaining about this.
    Something needs to be done to hurt those responsible and the best i have seen so far is to boycott israeli goods as much as possible. Our esteemed leaders havent the balls to do anything and all i see globally is pussyfooting around the issue for fear of offending the israelis. We need to cop on and call a spade a spade here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    shedweller wrote: »
    And yet, the double standards continue. Our esteemed leaders' complete lack of effort , for want of a better word, must mean they ALL have to not do or say anything bad about israel or there will be repercussions. Thats my take on it anyway. We regularly see sanctions imposed on countries for far lesser crimes and theres nothing of the sort here. We regularly see humanitarian aid being airlifted into places and theres posters and ads to "give generously for the poor starving kids" but theres nothing like that for poor Palestine.
    I think its a load of crap and i also think we are more or less wasting our time complaining about this.
    Something needs to be done to hurt those responsible and the best i have seen so far is to boycott israeli goods as much as possible. Our esteemed leaders havent the balls to do anything and all i see globally is pussyfooting around the issue for fear of offending the israelis. We need to cop on and call a spade a spade here.

    Today I heard radio advertisements fron unifef, red cross and trocaire appealing for funds for gaza so that is not entirely correct


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Chance The Rapper


    The protest was really positive. Great atmosphere and a nice crowd. Fair few cameras about so hopefully it'll get a bit of coverage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Leogirl


    The protest was really positive. Great atmosphere and a nice crowd. Fair few cameras about so hopefully it'll get a bit of coverage

    Was there too, lovely atmosphere. Bit hard to light the lanterns though :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭pedro1234


    Farah Baker's Twitter from 15 minutes ago:
    So yeah it's the 3rd day of the cease fire but Israel has broken it by shooting from warships #GazaUnderAttack NEVER TRUST ISRAEL


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    pedro1234 wrote: »
    Farah Baker's Twitter from 15 minutes ago:

    No offense to Ms Baker, but she does understand the concept of a blockade and the permissible responses to a break of it, right? Especially when they're warning shots, which they appear to have been.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Vandango


    No offense to Ms Baker, but she does understand the concept of a blockade and the permissible responses to a break of it, right? Especially when they're warning shots, which they appear to have been.

    So it's permissible to defend an unlawful blockade?....And the victim blaming continues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Vandango wrote: »
    So it's permissible to defend an unlawful blockade?....And the victim blaming continues.

    Same old! Lets all avoid eye contact with THE BIG MASSIVE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭bboybaboy19


    I feel so sorry for the innocent Palestinians with the calibre of people they have standing up for them. Honestly lads, Chinese lanterns..what's next? Sit around a campfire and sing songs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    I feel so sorry for the innocent Palestinians with the calibre of people they have standing up for them. Honestly lads, Chinese lanterns..what's next? Sit around a campfire and sing songs?

    As opposed to you grabbing your rifle and hitchhiking your way to the middle east :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭bboybaboy19


    bumper234 wrote: »
    As opposed to you grabbing your rifle and hitchhiking your way to the middle east :rolleyes:

    Doing literally nothing is still better than that stupid hippy bullshít.
    Hell, I guess when those that change their profile picture in Facebook to a Palestinian flag also let off a Chinese lantern then all is solved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Chance The Rapper


    Doing literally nothing is still better than that stupid hippy bullshít.
    Hell, I guess when those that change their profile picture in Facebook to a Palestinian flag also let off a Chinese lantern then all is solved.

    Do everyone a favor and fcuk off. It's about raising awareness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭bboybaboy19


    Do everyone a favor and fcuk off. It's about raising awareness.

    Awh man, the last time awareness helped a situation..when was that...oh yeah, never.

    I'll do you a favour, make sure the Chinese lantern is lighting for a few minutes or it won't have enough heat to take off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Chance The Rapper


    Awh man, the last time awareness helped a situation..when was that...oh yeah, never.

    I'll do you a favour, make sure the Chinese lantern is lighting for a few minutes or it won't have enough heat to take off.

    You've just confirmed that you're too stupid to actually engage with. Congrats. Ignore list.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭bboybaboy19


    You're just confirmed that you're too stupid to actually engage with. Congrats. Ignore list.

    You're just confirmed. You're.
    Too stupid.


    Alright cool story bro.


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