Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

v3ttel · 12-08-2014 08:50PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

One player. Fellaini. I don't think that I would boo him but I understand why some fans might.

I would not question such a fan's loyalty to the cause.

Perhaps such a fan actually is the more dedicated to the cause?

Perhaps you talk utter bollocks?

Larry Wildman · 12-08-2014 08:50PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Still not at all convinced by you Larry.

In what respect?

It's a legitimate viewpoint. I would have booed Moyes but I have to say that I doubt that I would boo Fellaini. I think that he's totally out of his depth and should be sold immediately, but I don't think that I'd boo him. If I'm honest, I might heckle him. I heckled Barthez at a game once because in my humble opinion he was a clown.

Will I Amnt · 12-08-2014 08:51PM

Fergie and Ronaldo like reunited lovers at the Super Cup final :pac:

keane2097 · 12-08-2014 08:51PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

In what respect?

It's a legitimate viewpoint. I would have booed Moyes but I have to say that I doubt that I would boo Fellaini. I think that he's totally out of his depth and should be sold immediately, but I don't think that I'd boo him. If I'm honest, I might heckle him. I heckled Barthez at a game once because in my humble opinion he was a clown.

Nope, still don't quite believe you. We'll see again in another few weeks I suppose.

LostBoy101 · 12-08-2014 08:52PM

lol Larry. Booing your own team is a disgraceful act regardless if the player is dire and the best way to settle it is by debating at the end of the game. By being at the game you get behind the team and encourage them, simple as.

bangkok · 12-08-2014 08:52PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

In what respect?

It's a legitimate viewpoint. I would have booed Moyes but I have to say that I doubt that I would boo Fellaini. I think that he's totally out of his depth and should be sold immediately, but I don't think that I'd boo him. If I'm honest, I might heckle him. I heckled Barthez at a game once because in my humble opinion he was a clown.

you wouldnt have booed fellaini yet you would have booed moyes?!

Larry Wildman · 12-08-2014 08:53PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

I suppose it is a matter of opinion. No matter how poorly a player plays or a member of staff do their job I could never boo them and jeer them during the match.

At the match I feel a bit of respect should be shown for the people representing the club. I don't see how booing and jeering can help. More beneficial trying to support the club and then voice any complaints outside of match day in my view.

A fair point. Your view's widely held I'd say.

Personally I found that "Chosen One" banner an affront and an abomination and I believe that fans who booed Moyes "did the club some service".

But it would be a boring world if we all agreed.

NTMK · 12-08-2014 08:54PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

In what respect?

It's a legitimate viewpoint. I would have booed Moyes but I have to say that I doubt that I would boo Fellaini. I think that he's totally out of his depth and should be sold immediately, but I don't think that I'd boo him. If I'm honest, I might heckle him. I heckled Barthez at a game once because in my humble opinion he was a clown.

and what the **** do you achieve by heckling one of your players?
does the manager give 2 ****s about what you think? No
do the owners give 2 ****s about what you think? No

Support the whole team for the 90mins or gtfo

LostBoy101 · 12-08-2014 08:54PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

A fair point. Your view's widely held I'd say.

Personally I found that "Chosen One" banner an affront and an abomination and I believe that fans who booed Moyes "did the club some service".

But it would be a boring world if we all agreed.

lol'd.

RobertKK · 12-08-2014 08:54PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Fergie and Ronaldo like reunited lovers at the Super Cup final :pac:

Indeed, huge smiles from Ronaldo, a very warm embrace and hopefully that was Ronaldo nodding that he is returning next year to United, which is my prediction for next summer...

irishgoldberg · 12-08-2014 08:56PM

Headshot wrote: »

I heard boo-urns

Seriously tho I reckon give him a chance this season. why boo him when hes still a united player? He didn't look look out of his depth at the world cup and played every game.

beno619 · 12-08-2014 08:57PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

A fair point. Your view's widely held I'd say.

Personally I found that "Chosen One" banner an affront and an abomination and I believe that fans who booed Moyes "did the club some service".

But it would be a boring world if we all agreed.

I agree with this point, Moyes needed to be removed one way or the other. I would have booed.

The circumstances Fellaini was jeered under tonight make no sense though.

Rubber_Soul · 12-08-2014 08:57PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Indeed, huge smiles from Ronaldo, a very warm embrace and hopefully that was Ronaldo nodding that he is returning next year to United, which is my prediction for next summer...

You need to move on Robert. He's just not that in to us.

Larry Wildman · 12-08-2014 08:59PM

bangkok wrote: »

you wouldnt have booed fellaini yet you would have booed moyes?!

I would definitely have booed Moyes.

If I was at the game tonight, I don't believe that I'd boo Fellaini. I might heckle him (e.g. "you're crap!" or "sell him!"). I fundamentally believe that Fellaini is an awful footballer...a Tony Cascarino type who is suited to Stoke City type long ball stuff rather than fluid football. I also believe that he's a nasty dirty player. I basically don't like anything about him.

NoviGlitzko · 12-08-2014 09:00PM

Was just thinking there; Fellani has scored a goal in 15 minutes with LVG, as opposed to an entire season with Moyes. Hilarious stuff.

Kagawa · 12-08-2014 09:01PM

Dunno how reliable or not this guy is but he reckons Dennis Irwin said that there would be announcement in the next 48 hrs, vidal??

https://twitter.com/totallymufc/status/499295046412566530

Larry Wildman · 12-08-2014 09:01PM

NTMK wrote: »

and what the **** do you achieve by heckling one of your players?
does the manager give 2 ****s about what you think? No
do the owners give 2 ****s about what you think? No

Support the whole team for the 90mins or gtfo

How many times have chairmen pulled the trigger once a manager "loses the fans"?

Fans have an absolute right and in some cases an obligation to boo managers who are wrecking their club (e.g. David Moyes).

BKtje · 12-08-2014 09:01PM

Thought Fellani did quite well when he can on, did himself no harm at all.

Loved Rooney 'slapping' Fellani's affro after the goal as well. Gave me a good chuckle.

LVG was great as well, high fiving loads of fans on his way out and gave a very frank and honest interview. Said it was our worst performance and that the youngsters did 'ok' buy that they are capable of more. Also said it was amazing to be the home manager at old Trafford (or words to that effect). I really love the way that he tells it as he sees it, no bull****.

sidcon · 12-08-2014 09:02PM

@TransferRelated: Arturo Vidal's move to Manchester United is 100% a done deal. [@BFairthorne]

Ed The Equalizer · 12-08-2014 09:02PM

Shocking that he was booed. The squad is small and every player needs to be given as much of a lift as possible.

Delighted for him that he scored.

thelad95 · 12-08-2014 09:02PM

Kagawa wrote: »

Dunno how reliable or not this guy is but he reckons Dennis Irwin said that there would be announcement in the next 48 hrs, vidal??

https://twitter.com/totallymufc/status/499295046412566530

No.

Simply Red · 12-08-2014 09:02PM

Anyone familiar with this guy on twitter?

Ben Fairthorne @BFairthorne · 1h
Followers will know I haven't reported transfer news all summer. Just been told by agent with players at United that Vidal is a 100% done.

Tom mcdermott saying it too

Tom McDermott @FootballMcD · 12m
Someone talk to me about Vidal.... I'll wait outside the Best, Law, Charlton statue for apologies. Welcome @kingarturo23.

Christy Browne · 12-08-2014 09:02PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I would definitely have booed Moyes.

If I was at the game tonight, I don't believe that I'd boo Fellaini. I might heckle him (e.g. "you're crap!" or "sell him!"). I fundamentally believe that Fellaini is an awful footballer...a Tony Cascarino type who is suited to Stoke City type long ball stuff rather than fluid football. I also believe that he's a nasty dirty player. I basically don't like anything about him.

How does heckling him solve anything? He's hardly gonna go "You're right, I am crap" and submit a transfer request now is he?

steoin · 12-08-2014 09:03PM

bangkok wrote: »

you wouldnt have booed fellaini yet you would have booed moyes?!

I think this is telling on oh so many levels, oh so many many.

bangkok · 12-08-2014 09:04PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I would definitely have booed Moyes.

If I was at the game tonight, I don't believe that I'd boo Fellaini. I might heckle him (e.g. "you're crap!" or "sell him!"). I fundamentally believe that Fellaini is an awful footballer...a Tony Cascarino type who is suited to Stoke City type long ball stuff rather than fluid football. I also believe that he's a nasty dirty player. I basically don't like anything about him.

you cant say he is an awful footballer either, he earns 80k a week playing football at one of the biggest clubs in the world. he was one of evertons best players when we signed him. i would say he is not suited to united alright but i wouldnt call him an awful player..

Whatsisname · 12-08-2014 09:04PM

Simply Red wrote: »

Anyone familiar with this guy on twitter?

Ben Fairthorne @BFairthorne · 1h
Followers will know I haven't reported transfer news all summer. Just been told by agent with players at United that Vidal is a 100% done.

Tom mcdermott saying it too

Tom McDermott @FootballMcD · 12m
Someone talk to me about Vidal.... I'll wait outside the Best, Law, Charlton statue for apologies. Welcome @kingarturo23.

Think Fairthorne was proven to be a bull****ter last summer.

Thought McDermott deleted his account when it seemed like Vidal was off, I guess he's back. Either way he's been confident of it all summer. Redcafe have his posts banned I think.

DM_7 · 12-08-2014 09:05PM

StarshipPooper wrote: »

You need to move on Robert. He's just not that in to us.

https://vine.co/v/MYeK9HPiXqz

But he loves SAF

KombuchaMshroom · 12-08-2014 09:06PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

One player. Fellaini. I don't think that I would boo him but I understand why some fans might.

I would not question such a fan's loyalty to the cause.

Perhaps such a fan actually is the more dedicated to the cause?

Are you actually for real?
What has Fellaini done to warrant him getting booed?

Yes he had a poor season last year, so did pretty much every outfield player we have, bar maybe Rooney and Januzaj.
The man only started a dozen league games, coming into United at the worst possible time surrounded by underperforming players, while also injured. No player should frankly ever get booed by his own fans regardless of performances unless he is physically seen to not be giving a sh!t out on the pitch.

If people want to say Fellaini should be sold I get that. Personally id like to see him being given a year since he didn't really get a chance last year, but I understand the viewpoint. But to come out an jeer him from the first second he was on the pitch, that is actually the most embarrassed I have ever been being a United fan, that sort of behaviour is so beneath what this club stands for.

The people that behave that way are complete and utter mindless sheep, incapable of forming their own opinions, but instead scapegoating a player based on what they hear about him as opposed to what they have seen.

People actually booing our own player at Old Trafford who is out there trying his best for the team, and not too long ago I remember people actually standing up for Tevez after he left even after the way he treated the club and the disrespect he showed.
The mind boggles sometimes!!

The Sparrow · 12-08-2014 09:06PM

i really don't understand why you would boo your own player. Even if you discount the complete dickishness of it, it makes no logical sense.

If you are booing an opposition player it is usually because you really dislike them or they are really good and you want to try and knock them off their stride and play worse.

Why you would want to boo your own player and try to strip his confidence is beyond me. Even if you dislike him, surely the point of of going to a game is to hopefully see your team win. The chances of that happening are lowered significantly if you boo your own players.

It's not Fellaini's fault that Utd paid that much money for him and that the manager that brought him in was a disaster. I don't think he is a Utd player but I would never be anything but supportive of his effort when he does play in the hope that he will prove me wrong.

TheTownie · 12-08-2014 09:07PM

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

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