Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

bangkok wrote: »

ok, then why can you tell me, when he just signed a new contract with a buyout clause of 25m until 2017, just sign for city for 12m??

Why don't you back up the claim you made instead of trying to shift the burden of proof onto somebody who made no claim at all?

bucketybuck wrote: »

Why don't you back up the claim you made instead of trying to shift the burden of proof onto somebody who made no claim at all?

Lads - lets move it on - there are valuable arguements to be had about who we're not signing:D:D

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I had James Ward-Prowse in my Champion's League winning side in FM12. At the time he hadn't even made an appearance for a Southampton side who were still in the Championship. Last year he made 34 PL appearances in a team that finished just behind Manchester United.

They can predict the future. Just sayin'.

I posted months ago about how good their database is and that a couple of clubs had deals with them to access the data. Everton were know to have a deal with them and Real Madrid were rumored to also have one.

I put out a feeler about getting a UTD thread FM or FIFA league going as they both have good player stats ad updtes, no one bit but it goes to show the money getting pumped into games these days. Production costs are in the millions and they are out selling music and movie.

I dream of the day when I can turn on FM 2055 and walk into my virtual football world....

...picture the scene, you are manager of Accrington and Stanley and losing two nil away to Burton and Albion at half time. Your wet-through, knackered and the home fans having been giving you dogs abuse all match and your on your way to the dressing room to deliver your "inspirational half time team talk" to the players who are other boardsies logged into the game in player career mode.

Christy Browne wrote: »

Would like to see us sign Sandro from Spurs, they seem to be looking to offload midfielders and he could probably be got for about £20 million.

Him and a centre back to make up the numbers and I'd be happy.

He'd be like Hargreaves 2.0

NeVeR wrote: »

So much Entertainment in this thread.. I just sit in work and press F5 all day

Alt Gr and Down arrow is the only way to go!!!

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why are ipads etc banned from OT, whats the reasoning there?

Moyes and his team used them, bitter reminders of that dark season.

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why are ipads etc banned from OT, whats the reasoning there?

they dont want people taking videos of matches not even sure they want people taking pictures but you might be ok with them.

bangkok wrote: »

well I have proven you wrong on both occasions,

1. Fernando was not 100% owned by Porto
2. Fernando signed a new contract with Porto in Feb of this year.


the deal that brought both Mangala and Fernando was extremely complex and if I remember correctly it was on a sports channel they were discussing how the 2 deals were linked in and the major issues there was involved in both and saying how city would end up paying a small fee for Fernando but paying a much bigger fee for mangala. total of the deal was circa 45m but Porto and city were trying to come to a deal in which would see Porto FC receive most of the transfer fee. Not going into this any more

So a sports channel had the inside scoop, that no one else had, and the sports channel thought it wasn't worthy of an online article.

Cool story bro.

New piece from Andy Mitten

http://www.espnfc.com/club/manchester-united/360/blog/post/1980875/results-will-dictate-the-louis-van-gaal-effect

I remember we were talking before about how the club would leave it as late as possible to sign Vidal so that they could assess his knee after he has trained quite a bit, but Juve will want to spend the money on players too so surely if it's going to happen if would be this week or early next week at the latest

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Why do I get the feeling you were talking about something specific?

Still feel strongly about it, Liverpool's title challenge didn't eat a dick with that result, as Sky sports would have you believe, it was the ropey draw against Fulham, and wasn't there a Palace draw or something just around that game.

Obviously it was noticable with us last season, as everyone had a right go at us, but look at Chelsea. They did fine against the big teams who played into their counter attacking style, but couldn't break down the weaker teams who sat back. They could grind the result. They had slipups.

Obviously there will ALWAYS be upsets where an expected result happens, one of the beauties of football, but if you want to win a title, its knowing how to mitigate these unexpected results, and more importantly spotting when they are about to happen(during the course of a game).

I didn't figure this out myself, Uncle of mine mentioned it to me a few years ago, and it just REALLY hit home last season as the title race heated up. He was pretty good at commenting how as the trio of managers kept downplaying their title chances, it was increasing the likelyhood of a bannana skin. Fergie was great at playing UP the teams chances, and keeping the squad firing and grinding results, no matter the circumstances or standings.

I thought that was very evident as well last year. How it looked like no one from Rodger, Pellegrino and Mourinho wanted to openly vaunt their credentials. Trying to pass the pressure as favourites onto someone, hoping to force that bananna skin.

The point of all this really, is that we have a favourable start to the season. Regardless of people settling in, team settling with a new system, the squad needs to re-gain that confidence and belief of beating teams on paper we should beat. Becoming feared again, and grinding out results.

Avoid any embarrassing defeats or results, and when it comes to facing the first stern test, there is hopefully plenty of points on the board, and confidence is booming.

some people were deriding a guy earlier who mentioned by Christmas we could be in with a good shout. That's not horribly off the mark in fairness. Obviously we cant tell how this team is going to react after last season, but signs are decent. It's not beyond the realms of possibility.

As that article form F365 pointed out, while I was blind at the issues with Moyes when he was appointed, I'm probably equally blind now to the actual strength of our squad, and because we have a little shortage in CM and CB, doesn't mean we are going to be sweating it out for 7th again.

glued wrote: »

Good piece. Over the past few weeks I've found a lot of his articles to be well written. Himself and Ducker write some nice material on United.

Did you watch the video from ESPN attached to the link? 5 or 6 will be a good season for United.... WTF!