Drinking whiskey a social taboo in Ireland?

lazeedaisy · 10-08-2014 09:29PM

I love 12 y/o Jameson whiskey.

I dont care or pay heed to others, don't drink it so much now, but I would gift it to people who appreciate it.

If I could afford to drink it more I would,

woodturner · 10-08-2014 09:50PM

Glenfiddich, Balvenie, Monkey Shoulder and Tullamore Dew are mainly what myself and my better half drink. The plus being she is a tour guide in the Tullamore Dew visitor centre and we never have to buy a bottle.

hatrickpatrick · 10-08-2014 10:02PM

Didn't the Irish pretty much invent Whiskey? O_o
I'd hardly call it a taboo, just maybe a bit unfashionable - most people I know (twenties) prefer clear spirits.
Some suggest that dark spirits get one more drunk, but given that all spirits tend to be in and around 40% I'm not sure if this is scientifically sound? Does the make-up of a drink affect how locked you get aside from the alcohol percentage?

Elmo · 10-08-2014 10:09PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Didn't the Irish pretty much invent Whiskey? O_o
I'd hardly call it a taboo, just maybe a bit unfashionable - most people I know (twenties) prefer clear spirits.
Some suggest that dark spirits get one more drunk, but given that all spirits tend to be in and around 40% I'm not sure if this is scientifically sound? Does the make-up of a drink affect how locked you get aside from the alcohol percentage?

You mean they drink Vodka or Bacardi White Rum?

The Irish invented Whiskey and the Scots dropped the E and try to refer to their robbery as Scotch meanwhile the American's kept the E and try to call it Bourbon.

_Redzer_ · 10-08-2014 10:10PM

lazeedaisy wrote: »

I love 12 y/o Jameson whiskey.

I dont care or pay heed to others, don't drink it so much now, but I would gift it to people who appreciate it.

Hi there 0/

Sam Kade · 10-08-2014 10:12PM

The Darkroom wrote: »

I mentioned to a group of people that ''I'm having a bushmills tonight'' and it's met with a chorus of dissaproval and ''oh stay away from that its the devils drink'' and ''whiskey!!!! keep well away from that trust me''

Is it to do with a bad drink to get drunk on? because I only have the one or two neat in a glass. My wife says its probably because its easy to get addicted to like Vodka and creeps up on you and before you know it you're on it all the time.

One or two glasses I polish off half a 750 ml bottle at night on rare occasions

Tarzana · 10-08-2014 10:13PM

krudler wrote: »

People have different tastes shocker.

Did I say they didn't? The clue is the 'me' word in my comment.

mikemac1 · 10-08-2014 10:13PM

Henlars67 wrote: »

I've even gone so far as to tell some of the staff in pubs I frequent to never give it to me, just in case I do ask for it some night.

Alcohol is still alcohol no matter how you take it

Whiskey doesn't make you fight and gin doesn't make you cry

The Darkroom · 10-08-2014 10:17PM

Someone mentioned they don't like the burn of the whiskey on their throat. I do, I like that bite I get from each sip.

userod · 10-08-2014 10:17PM

krudler wrote: »

The taste is exactly what you drink it for, it's to be sipped and enjoyed.

Ya ah we can all go around sipping this way sipping that way and "oh i know a good whiskey from a bad whiskey" and "oh I'd never drink Jack daniels or southerncomfort" (too mainstream to stand out if you say yoh like those). Whisky tastes like píss whatever way or speed you drink it, or whatever way you pour it or look at it. It tastes like sh*t.

That doesnt mean I dont drink it. I do drink it, but i'm not fooling myself about the reason I drink it for. If i want a nice 'tasty' drink I'l have a fücking glass of apple juice with some ice rather than some sh*t that tastes like poison.

And i dont buy this 'aquired taste' nonsense either. That just some pretentious excuse people give back when they're told plain and simply that it tastes like shít. You can eat cowshít all day and you'l never 'aquire' a taste for it

Ditch · 10-08-2014 10:22PM

Been quietly enjoying my nightly ration of Jameson as I read this

And there in lies my secret. Strictly rationed. I have a chunky glass with squares round it. I fill it to the top of the first square. That's my lot. Not a sip more. Every night, after my feed.

Any more than that and I tend to pay for it, next day.

Elmo · 10-08-2014 10:24PM

userod wrote: »

Ya ah we can all go around sipping this way sipping that way and "oh i know a good whiskey from a bad whiskey" and "oh I'd never drink Jack daniels or southerncomfort" (too mainstream to stand out if you say yoh like those). Whisky tastes like píss whatever way or speed you drink it, or whatever way you pour it or look at it. It tastes like sh*t.

That doesnt mean I dont drink it. I do drink it, but i'm not fooling myself about the reason I drink it for. If i want a nice 'tasty' drink I'l have a fücking glass of apple juice with some ice rather than some sh*t that tastes like poison.

And i dont buy this 'aquired taste' nonsense either. That just some pretentious excuse people give back when they're told plain and simply that it tastes like shít. You can eat cowshít all day and you'l never 'aquire' a taste for it

I have to say I love Jack Daniels, Jameson, Teachers and Bushmills. Paddy's is cheap piss.

I don't think I would eat cow**** to get drunk, but that's just me.

hatrickpatrick · 10-08-2014 10:24PM

Elmo wrote: »

You mean they drink Vodka or Bacardi White Rum?

The Irish invented Whiskey and the Scots dropped the E and try to refer to their robbery as Scotch meanwhile the American's kept the E and try to call it Bourbon.

Or Tesco white rum

Most of my mates drinking spirits at a session will go for vodka or gin though. The only dark spirit that's really popular seems to be Jaeger.
Again though I'd hardly call it taboo - people just seem to think it produces a worse hangover than clear stuff.

jjbrien · 10-08-2014 10:28PM

Kilbeggan and Lockes whiskey is the business I remember during the celtic tiger days ordering 25 year old glasses of the stuff. Was so good.

Anyone else like love the Jack Daniels Glaze at TGI fridays.... yum

wexie · 10-08-2014 10:31PM

userod wrote: »

Ya ah we can all go around sipping this way sipping that way and "oh i know a good whiskey from a bad whiskey" and "oh I'd never drink Jack daniels or southerncomfort" (too mainstream to stand out if you say yoh like those). Whisky tastes like píss whatever way or speed you drink it, or whatever way you pour it or look at it. It tastes like sh*t.

That doesnt mean I dont drink it. I do drink it, but i'm not fooling myself about the reason I drink it for. If i want a nice 'tasty' drink I'l have a fücking glass of apple juice with some ice rather than some sh*t that tastes like poison.

And i dont buy this 'aquired taste' nonsense either. That just some pretentious excuse people give back when they're told plain and simply that it tastes like shít. You can eat cowshít all day and you'l never 'aquire' a taste for it

So what you're saying is that you willingly drink something that you think 'tastes like piss' and 'poison' to get drunk?

Have you considered seeking help for this?

wexie · 10-08-2014 10:32PM

jjbrien wrote: »

Anyone else like love the Jack Daniels Glaze at TGI fridays.... yum

Yup, can't really stand the stuff but it certainly makes tasty glaze, BBQ sauce as well.

Lucifer MorningStar · 10-08-2014 10:36PM

Whiskey is the greatest ****ing drink ever ! along with tea

JoannieG · 10-08-2014 10:41PM

I'm sipping my nightly Black Bush as I read this thread - beautiful whiskey!

userod · 10-08-2014 10:43PM

wexie wrote: »

So what you're saying is that you willingly drink something that you think 'tastes like piss' and 'poison' to get drunk?

Have you considered seeking help for this?

Alcohol tastes like shìt. Stop pretending to yourself it doesn't.

WAtch this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s8u5L0lDehI

RED L4 0TH · 10-08-2014 10:47PM

Tyrconnell.

Sam Kade · 10-08-2014 10:49PM

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

Whiskey is the greatest ****ing drink ever ! along with tea

As long as you don't drink it too often. The biggest problem is ending up with a whiskey nose :eek:

I'd say the good man Bertie likes his whiskey

http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/bertie-ahern-ireland-bertie-ahern-derek-zoolander-demotivational-poster-1220789700.jpg

Poor man doesn't want to waste €400/day to powder his nose it was grand when it was used as an expense :mad:

Lucifer MorningStar · 10-08-2014 11:17PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

As long as you don't drink it too often. The biggest problem is ending up with a whiskey nose :eek:

I'd say the good man Bertie likes his whiskey

http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/bertie-ahern-ireland-bertie-ahern-derek-zoolander-demotivational-poster-1220789700.jpg

Poor man doesn't want to waste €400/day to powder his nose it was grand when it was used as an expense :mad:

I don't think there's any chance of me transforming into Sir Alex Ferguson any time soon :pac:

Buona Fortuna · 10-08-2014 11:33PM

I only really drink whisky after funerals. Especially if its a cold day.

Maybe I show my age, but remember Christmas when the bottle of Paddys would come out and anyone calling at the house -"You'll take a whisky". The postman used to be feckin twisted by the end of his deliveries

JupiterKid · 10-08-2014 11:35PM

The scary thing about whiskey is the way in which it can change many of those who drink it from not just sober to drunk but to a nasty, violent type of drunk.

That's why I stopped drinking it years back. It was turning me into the type of person I didn't want to be.

allthedoyles · 10-08-2014 11:38PM

JoannieG wrote: »

I'm sipping my nightly Black Bush as I read this thread - beautiful whiskey!

And I'm having a Teachers , ( a favourite )

Sam Kade · 10-08-2014 11:40PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

The scary thing about whiskey is the way in which it can change many of those who drink it from not just sober to drunk but to a nasty, violent type of drunk.

That's why I stopped drinking it years back. It was turning me into the type of person I didn't want to be.

Doesn't happen to me and I never have a hang over from it after a half bottle

Brandy is pure poison to me though I can drink 7 glasses of it without any effect then bang all of a sudden legless :eek:

Reindeer · 10-08-2014 11:42PM

HurtLocker wrote: »

I like Jack neat??? Why lie.

No need to. JD is a perfectly fine whiskey. If JD burns your throat, I got news for you - you aren't a whiskey drinker. It's made in the Tennessee Whiskey style, similarly to Bourbon, but with maple charcoal rick finishing. I personally consider it a fairly smooth drinking whiskey with a nice bit of smoke for an American make without much aging. JD and Jim Beam are both aged about 4-5 years before sold. So do not expect it to be as mellow as a triple distilled 8 year old Jameson. Bear in mind, that back in the US, a bottle of Jim Beam white label or JD is about 11 Euro. Jim Beam single barrel is usually 20 Euro, and Jim Beam Black Label(8 years aged) is about 18 Euro. Both are smoother, and have some more characteristically Bourbon notes(caramel, vanilla, cinnamon, oak). And for this whiskey drinker, both absolutely destroy your average Irish whiskey in flavour. I'm particularly fond of Maker's Mark, which adds a good bit of wheat to the mash for some interesting finishing notes.

For me, most Irish Whiskeys are too smooth and subtle. I like something more in your face, full of flavour, some smoke, earthy spices, oak, etc. I particularly am fond of peaty and buttery Scotch as well. If I simply want alcohol, I'll drink a cheap vodka (which I can not tell the difference from expensive vodka, anyways).

This brings us to blends. Some folks detest them. I love a good blend. It is sort of the difference between using filters and lighting VS post processing photographs. One, you have to prepare for, and you often get the exact result you like, but once you take that photo, you have only that one example. The other, you get to see what the results are first, and then tailor it to what sort of product you want to make. I love Johnny Walker Black, Green, and Blue labels. And feel you certainly get more than what you pay for in those brands. Especially with Green.

Having said that, I do love a good single malt with plenty of peatiness. But, I would rather 2 bottles of Johnny Walker Black than one of Laphraoig most times. So a single malt Scotch is usually a present.

Billy86 · 10-08-2014 11:44PM

Links234 wrote: »

Whiskey's a great drink, but a nice one neat is the only way people who drink JD and Coke don't know what they're missing

No no, I know what I am missing, and it's a stronger gag reflex.

jimgoose · 15-08-2014 02:02PM

awec wrote: »

JD ain't that nice neat. Bush or Jamesons are far superior.

Jimmy Beam is, for me, about the best of the American rye-whiskey. And of course it is not to be sullied with cola or anything else beyond, at the very limit, a couple of lumps of ice. The sitting on the roof with no trousers on playing the banjo at 4am is something that non-connoisseurs just have to learn to live with.

Jameson is a rather decent drop as well, but I'm more partial to the odd snifter of Famous Grouse.

15-08-2014 02:21PM

Jameson and ginger ale has been my go to drink over the last while when its time to change from pints. Absolutely lovely stuff, have gallons of the stuff drank recently.

You can't beat a few shots of Jameson and ice too, great kick from it and that's before we get into winter and hot whiskey weather

I would say drinking whiskey is very common in Ireland and far far from a social taboo.

Drinking whiskey a social taboo in Ireland?

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