Water

Lu Tze · 31-07-2014 08:26PM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Probably distilled, as it takes out everything that isn't h2o. The machines aren't too cheap though.

Saying that no harm taking an A-Z mv+mineral supplement just to cover the rda, most people probably do anyway, the one dolla shops sell em, 30 days supply cheap.

I dont think that would remove water based free radicals?

TheChizler · 31-07-2014 08:28PM

lufties wrote: »

There is fluoride in tap water

There's also chlorine, ozone, lead, lime, calcium, and iron but in the vast majority of cases not enough to harm you, and probably beneficial.

Joe Doe · 31-07-2014 08:32PM

Think distilled takes out everything, strips the water down to well just water. The boiling/evaporation process should take out 99% of nasties too which is why rain falls clear for the last few billions years.

Free radicals are everywhere, best bet could be green tea (flavanoids) and slightly alkaline diet to reduce them.

Adamantium · 31-07-2014 08:36PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5jURsdxDQ8

CrazyRabbit · 31-07-2014 08:40PM

FFS...just buy some Hydrogen and some Oxygen and make your own. It's not rocket science.

FierceMild · 31-07-2014 09:22PM

lufties wrote: »

There is fluoride in tap water

There's flouride in bottled water and natural water too.

Joe Doe · 31-07-2014 09:34PM

FierceMild wrote: »

There's flouride in bottled water and natural water too.

Well it's not in rainwater, unless there was a recent volcanic action and thus ash collected from a nearby source. Some traces of it in mineral water (from the water table) along with other minerals.

Though as a general/loose rule modifying what the earth does for gazillions of years for our evolved species, maybe ain't always the best idea of the last century e.g. adding specific chemicals to drinking water.

Could probably include the 2.4ghz spectrum (wifi) bouncing around us in close proximity as an 'non-natural environment event' of recent times

TheChizler · 31-07-2014 11:23PM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Could probably include the 2.4ghz spectrum (wifi) bouncing around us in close proximity as an 'non-natural environment event' of recent times

Oh dear...

Luke92 · 31-07-2014 11:26PM

What are the actual dangers of fluoride? I currently have a suppressed immune system so have to boil my water. Boiling concentrates the fluoride so I'm getting more than most people.

Any dangers to me?

OldMrBrennan83 · 31-07-2014 11:28PM

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TheChizler · 31-07-2014 11:37PM

Luke92 wrote: »

What are the actual dangers of fluoride? I currently have a suppressed immune system so have to boil my water. Boiling concentrates the fluoride so I'm getting more than most people.

Any dangers to me?

You'll boil off only a tiny portion of the water so the concentration of fluoride will be well within the margin of error for normal fluoride concentration, so no more danger to you than to anyone else here. There are some health problems due to excessive concentrations of fluorine salts in the ground water in parts of India etc. but the concentrations are hundreds of times greater than here. Some will claim otherwise but there's no evidence that shows that the levels we have here are dangerous, and plenty of evidence that shows dental benefits.

Annasopra · 31-07-2014 11:40PM

Luke92 wrote: »

What are the actual dangers of fluoride? I currently have a suppressed immune system so have to boil my water. Boiling concentrates the fluoride so I'm getting more than most people.

Any dangers to me?

There is pretty much no danger to flouride in tap water because the amounts are so tiny

http://www.fluoridesandhealth.ie/faq/

Joe Doe · 31-07-2014 11:42PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Wise words,
3 days is the maximum time you can go without water.
30 days for food.

Btw 2.4ghz is exactly the same as emf generated by microwaves, which is why a pair mobiles can cook an egg (if desired, under lab conditions) by vibrating water molecules at a very very high frequency. The Ruskies banned them for a long time.

TheChizler · 01-08-2014 12:43AM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Btw 2.4ghz is exactly the same as emf generated by microwaves, which is why a pair mobiles can cook an egg (if desired, under lab conditions) by vibrating water molecules at a very very high frequency. The Ruskies banned them for a long time.

Microwave is a very broad term basically covering everything from radio waves to infrared light. 2.45 GHz (and 915 MHz) is used in microwave ovens as they lie in the ISM frequency bands (unlicensed) so they don't interfere with commercial/official transmissions. Mobile phones used licensed bands, so by definition won't correspond with the ones you're talking about. The whole cooking an egg with a mobile phone thing is a complete myth, the maximum power output they're allowed is around 2 W, you'd have to find a way to concentrate all this power on a perfectly insulated egg in order to cook it, slooooowly. Not realistic, even under so called laboratory conditions.

Edit: Max power output of a phone is 2 W PEAK, average allowed is more like 0.25 W.

El Weirdo · 01-08-2014 12:46AM

Joe Doe wrote: »

... which is why a pair mobiles can cook an egg...

Ah here...

moc moc a moc · 01-08-2014 12:48AM

lufties wrote: »

Ok commoner, no need to get passive agressive

Says the guy who can't even afford evian :rolleyes:

Riff-raff.

wp_rathead · 01-08-2014 01:21AM

mad muffin wrote: »

Israeli water is the best.

As a mater of fact I'm having it now… mmmmm, gooooood.

Erm what? 0_o

whirlpool · 01-08-2014 01:27AM

AND you're not meant to drink out of plastic bottles as it gives you Oestrogen.

Calibos · 01-08-2014 01:29AM

I applaud the OP.

In fact I applaud anyone who wears their ignorance on their sleeve as a badge of honour.

Joe Doe · 01-08-2014 03:27AM

Microwave in terms of commercial/industrial use of wifi networks and microwaves ovens are both on the 2.4 Ghz spectrum. Regular wifi is soon getting 'double channeled' to 5ghz but this just means 2.4Ghz x 2 channels), and who knows what future 1gb+/sec will be doing.

Granted SAR levels vary, if you've only got 1 bar and are transmitting a call it will be pushing max and your ear may get a tad warmish. Tis also a cumulative thing, the mw'oven may only be on 5 mins and at a far greater distances from your person with an insulated cage. The oven vibrates water molecules to generate heat, dry spuds wont cook unless they're in a bowl of water. Humans are of 90%c water base.

Stats:
highest: Motorola Droid Maxx @ 1.54w SAR (allowed)
average: Apple iPhone 5 @ 1.18w SAR
lowest: LG G2 @ 0.51w SAR

Source: Lynn La and Kent German, "Cell Phone Radiation Levels," www.reviews.cnet.com, Jan. 16, 2014

B.A._Baracus · 01-08-2014 03:41AM

On the subject of water and some tap water being disgusting...
Anyone else notice that when you ask for a glass of water from a few resturants in town (Dublin) that it is completely disgusting?

Places I am talking about is the Full House in abbey street and the mongolian bbq in temple bar. The water has some weird twang off it thats hard to describe.

Sir Arthur Daley · 01-08-2014 03:47AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

The water has some weird twang off it thats hard to describe.

Compared to your own water is there a difference in the two?

B.A._Baracus · 01-08-2014 04:29AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Compared to your own water is there a difference in the two?

Yup. A vast difference. But not only my water but same goes for the water in my girlfriends place. Both are just .. well, water. Both are fine to drink.

But in those places I mentioned... it's weird. It's hard to describe. You get this twang off the water and my girlfriend has said the same. The Mongolian BBQ in Temple Bar is probably the best example of it. You see the staff fill from the tap and the jugs and glasses are clean. But yet the water tastes weird.

I can't put my finger on it but if I had to give an answer if tastes metallic.

Peregrine · 01-08-2014 05:12AM

lufties wrote: »

There is fluoride in tap water

And oestrogen from the contraceptive pill too, apparently.

mad muffin · 01-08-2014 08:28AM

Luke92 wrote: »

What are the actual dangers of fluoride? I currently have a suppressed immune system so have to boil my water. Boiling concentrates the fluoride so I'm getting more than most people.

Any dangers to me?

You'll just glow in the dark for a while.

Burlap_Sack · 01-08-2014 09:14AM

Joe Doe wrote: »

Microwave in terms of commercial/industrial use of wifi networks and microwaves ovens are both on the 2.4 Ghz spectrum. Regular wifi is soon getting 'double channeled' to 5ghz but this just means 2.4Ghz x 2 channels), and who knows what future 1gb+/sec will be doing.

Totally off topic but 2x2.4Ghz channels do not make a 5Ghz channel and the resonant frequency of water molecules is somewhere around 2.4Ghz so 5Ghz will have little affect although it possibly might cause other problems.

topper75 · 01-08-2014 09:43AM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

FFS...just buy some Hydrogen and some Oxygen and make your own. It's not rocket science.

Aye but don't let children carry the hydrogen because if they drop it and it smashes on the floor, they're going sky high.

hairybelly · 01-08-2014 10:43AM

I prefer tap water over bottled water to be honest. Although as mentioned previously, you cant go wrong with aldi/lidl.
It's all the same ****e at the end of the day.

TheChizler · 01-08-2014 12:14PM

Burlap_Sack wrote: »

Totally off topic but 2x2.4Ghz channels do not make a 5Ghz channel and the resonant frequency of water molecules is somewhere around 2.4Ghz so 5Ghz will have little affect although it possibly might cause other problems.

Totally off topic here but yes that post earlier that said 2 x 2.4 GHz channels = 5 GHz was total bollox. You don't just add frequencies like that unless you're mixing them, which wouldn't make sense in this case, and isn't what happens in WiFi.

The post also said that mobile phones heat your ear. While being technically true this would be in the region of hundredths of a degree due to heating from the phone signal. Your ear gets hot because it's touching your phone which gets hot, which is mainly due to the processor heating due to the relatively complex task that is making a call, and the battery heating due to internal resistances and the relatively large current required to make a call. Try holding it to your ear with airplane mode on but playing a movie or something, the sane thing will happen.

As an 'interesting' aside microwaves don't heat water by matching their resonant frequency, which is in the Terahertz range for impure water, but the dielectric effect.

I don't mean to belittle the OP necessarily, but the fact that this is branching off into radio waves shows the type of conspiracy type of associations people who are slightly uninformed about science make. I'm fully expecting EM sensitivity and anti-vax posts.

Joe Doe · 01-08-2014 04:41PM

Aye so was thinking of 'multi channelling' with the 2.4... ...So a 5ghz base - that can't be good to be bouncing around the place surely? And 5ghz requires about twice as much transmission as running on shorter wave lengths, harder to go through walls etc. Official guidelines still exist for youngsters not to use mobile phones extensively as the waves can penetrate younger/thinner skulls more easily and effect the high percentage water base of the brain.

news today: IRISH Water has (today) warned hundreds of householders in an area on the north side of Limerick City that their water is not safe to drink. According to the letter, boiling the water will not remove the lead, distillation might...

other note: If storing water in plastic containers make sure they're labeled 'PET free'. Bottles made from a type of plastic known as PET, (polyethylene terephthalate), may also pack a substantial quantity of estrogen-mimicking pollution.

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