Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

eagle eye · 30-07-2014 06:00PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Everton have just blown the next 3 years of their transfer budget :pac:

Nonsense, they are just spending the Fellaini money from last season. And they'll get a big lump for Barkley next season if he has a half decent season. After all he is ENGLISH which makes him worth three times what he would be worth if he came from anywhere else.

Lukaku is a fantastic signing for them. They will double their money on him in a couple of years I think with the way transfer fees are now. Only 21 years of age and going to get better over the next couple of years. Mourinho has made a big mistake not giving Lukaku his chance imo.

Lukker- · 30-07-2014 06:02PM

K-9 wrote: »

Costly business though with Torres and Costa, while getting rid of Sturridge and Lukaku.

Torres in hindsight is the worst signing in Premier League history. Nothing that can be done about that, I don't think anyone could anticipate how bad that would turn out.

Costa, for £32m, which is £7 more than what Lukaku was sold for is a major upgrade. He's already won a La Liga title, scored someting like 8 goals last season in the CL. He has shown that he can do it at the very highest level.

With Sturridge I've no regrets, he's a different animal at Liverpool and I'm happy to see him fulfill his potential. Wasn't going to happen at Chelsea, he was greedy and wasteful for the majority of his time here.

GavRedKing · 30-07-2014 06:03PM

greendom wrote: »

Like Arsenal being stuck with Bendtner - nightmare!

Except he doesnt earn 175k a week.

Anyway, good luck to Lukaku. He wanted out last year but for a guy who supports Chelsea and Drogba is his idol, im surprised he didnt stick it out for a year as backup to Costa.

Anyway we'll be more than doubling our investment in him and i expect him to be sold by everton in 4/5 years for a huge transfer to a big club.

GavRedKing · 30-07-2014 06:06PM

Just another thing on Lukaku he wanted out last year over the competition for places, i imagine the same this year.

So ive no problem with him being sold with that kind of attitude if he doesnt want to fight for place. He cant be assured of a starting place and i reckon we'll do just fine with Costa.

Ranchu · 30-07-2014 06:17PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Just another thing on Lukaku he wanted out last year over the competition for places, i imagine the same this year.

So ive no problem with him being sold with that kind of attitude if he doesnt want to fight for place. He cant be assured of a starting place and i reckon we'll do just fine with Costa.

You can't win if you're a young footballer. He stays where he is and he gets very little game time. That's the reality of it. He's moving to play football and that's clearly an important thing in a players development. You can say what you want about not wanting to fight for a place but it is plain to see that he will be behind Costa. I know it must be a bit galling for the cash rich teams to find out that not all players are willing to sit on their benches indefinitely.

Oat23 · 30-07-2014 06:21PM

I'd rather keep Lukaku who has proven over the last two seasons that he can perform in England. Especially when you consider Costa cost €38m and is probably on twice as much as Lukaku would be. It's Chelsea though so money isn't an issue I suppose.

Great signing for Everton.

Andersonisgod · 30-07-2014 06:22PM

Oat23 wrote: »

I'd rather keep Lukaku who has proven over the last two seasons that he can perform in England. Especially when you consider Costa cost €38m and is probably on twice as much as Lukaku would be. It's Chelsea though so money isn't an issue I suppose.

Great signing for Everton.

Anyone whose seen a handful of games of both players can easily see why Costa is the right choice for CHELSEA rather than Lukaku.

eh i dunno · 30-07-2014 06:23PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Torres in hindsight is the worst signing in Premier League history. Nothing that can be done about that, I don't think anyone could anticipate how bad that would turn out.

Costa, for £32m, which is £7 more than what Lukaku was sold for is a major upgrade. He's already won a La Liga title, scored someting like 8 goals last season in the CL. He has shown that he can do it at the very highest level.

With Sturridge I've no regrets, he's a different animal at Liverpool and I'm happy to see him fulfill his potential. Wasn't going to happen at Chelsea, he was greedy and wasteful for the majority of his time here.

Don't see how he is a major upgrade on Lukaku. One good season is all. Before that he had never scored more than 10 league goals in a season which Lukaku has done in both his previous seasons at a younger age.

GavRedKing wrote: »

Except he doesnt earn 175k a week.

Anyway, good luck to Lukaku. He wanted out last year but for a guy who supports Chelsea and Drogba is his idol, im surprised he didnt stick it out for a year as backup to Costa.

Anyway we'll be more than doubling our investment in him and i expect him to be sold by everton in 4/5 years for a huge transfer to a big club.

Love how Chelsea fans now look down on Everton as a small club

A decade of Russian money has clearly gone to your heads

GavRedKing · 30-07-2014 06:24PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

Don't see how he is a major upgrade on Lukaku. One good season is all. Before that he had never scored more than 10 league goals in a season which Lukaku has done in both his previous seasons at a younger age.

Love how Chelsea fans now look down on Everton as a small club A decade of Russian money has clearly gone to your heads

I didnt mean small and i should have said bigger club. Like a European power house.

Dempsey · 30-07-2014 06:47PM

Great signing for Everton but not a loss to Chelsea at all.

Unless he improves his technical ability and link up play, which he hasnt done since coming to England, he'll always struggle to lead the line for a big club the expects to dominate a lot of possession.

K-9 · 30-07-2014 06:50PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Great signing for Everton but not a loss to Chelsea at all.

Unless he improves his technical ability and link up play, which he hasnt done since coming to England, he'll always struggle to lead the line for a big club the expects to dominate a lot of possession.

Only time will tell if he's no great loss. If he goes onto do what his potential and stats hint at for his age, he'll be a big loss. You could say sure Sturridge and Lukaku wouldn't suit us but once is a mistake, twice is careless.............

JPA · 30-07-2014 07:20PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Great signing for Everton but not a loss to Chelsea at all.

Unless he improves his technical ability and link up play, which he hasnt done since coming to England, he'll always struggle to lead the line for a big club the expects to dominate a lot of possession.

Unless he improves? You know he's 21. Of course he'll improve!
Jose simply isn't interested in developing players, he'd rather buy a finished product.

Lukker- · 30-07-2014 07:23PM

JPA wrote: »

Unless he improves? You know he's 21. Of course he'll improve!
Jose simply isn't interested in developing players, he'd rather buy a finished product.

Pony, last season at Madrid, Varane.

First time around, he turned Lampard into one of the best CM's in the world, Robben was only 20 when he signed, turned him into a top class winger. If the player is there, he'll put his faith in them if he thinks they're worth it.

Quazzie · 30-07-2014 07:27PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Pony, last season at Madrid, Varane.

First time around, he turned Lampard into one of the best CM's in the world, Robben was only 20 when he signed, turned him into a top class winger. If the player is there, he'll put his faith in them if he thinks they're worth it.

Yea. He really turned all them young players into top players.

Oh no wait... he paid big money for well established players that were already good well before Mourinho got near them to claim all the credit.

JPA · 30-07-2014 07:31PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Pony, last season at Madrid, Varane.

First time around, he turned Lampard into one of the best CM's in the world, Robben was only 20 when he signed, turned him into a top class winger. If the player is there, he'll put his faith in them if he thinks they're worth it.

He signed Varane and Robben, therefore they were HIS players and were considered some of the best young players around.
Lampard was well established when Jose joined.

Dempsey · 30-07-2014 07:31PM

JPA wrote: »

Unless he improves? You know he's 21. Of course he'll improve!
Jose simply isn't interested in developing players, he'd rather buy a finished product.

He's been criticized for his link up play & technical play since he was 16. It hasnt improved much at all. So in 5 years he hasnt worked on that aspect of his game much but you think its bound to improve because he's only 21. I dont see him improving that aspect of his game much because he doesnt see himself as a back to goal striker, never has.

Captain Morgan Freeman · 30-07-2014 07:42PM

To be fair to Mouriniho, Abramovic is giving him bags of cash to build a team to compete for titles right away rather than build a team who might fulfill it's potential in a few years. You can't hold it against him if he is being being impatient with Lukaku. Besides it seemed like he was going to get his chance last year but asked to go on loan instead.
Chelsea double their money, he gets to go back to a club where he will be the main man and is already well received by the fans. It's a win for all parties.

I have no doubt he will go on to have a great career, just not at Chelsea.

Utopia Parkway · 30-07-2014 08:23PM

£28M for Lukaku.

30-07-2014 08:28PM

He'll prove his doubters (mostly Mourinho-washed Chelsea fans) wrong.

batistuta9 · 30-07-2014 08:34PM

bertrand on loan to southampton = done

Bounty Hunter · 30-07-2014 08:46PM

batistuta9 wrote: »

bertrand on loan to southampton = done

Would have liked to see him stay at Villa but it seems we can't match the ambition of the club who sold almost all their starting eleven

Great deal for Southampton imo, good solid left back, argueably as good as Shaw ( I did say argueably) at least defensively, plus he is free and perhaps could be bought next year at not too much of an inflated fee as it seems he isnt in Chelseas plans and will have a year left on his contract.

Wonder will they actually invest any of the piles of cash they have recieved for their players, saw them linked to loans for the Arsenal lads too (Gnarby and Jenkinson).

Frankie Lee · 30-07-2014 09:01PM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Would have liked to see him stay at Villa but it seems we can't match the ambition of the club who sold almost all their starting eleven

Great deal for Southampton imo, good solid left back, argueably as good as Shaw ( I did say argueably) at least defensively, plus he is free and perhaps could be bought next year at not too much of an inflated fee as it seems he isnt in Chelseas plans and will have a year left on his contract.
.

After a bright enough start for Villa his form deteriorated fairly quickly and I wouldn't have regarded him value for €8m and high enough wages. Richardson is a capable and cheaper replacement especially in a 3-5-2 formation.

ASOT · 30-07-2014 09:04PM

DildoFaggins · 30-07-2014 09:15PM

extra gravy wrote: »

So if Lukaku is sold, Jose's striker options will be a PL unproven player with one good season in Spain, Torres and a 36 year old. Ok then.

Yep Mourinho is such a footballing moron ill phone into Roman 2moro and get in you in.. deal?

Crann na Beatha · 30-07-2014 09:19PM

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Quazzie · 30-07-2014 09:19PM

DildoFaggins wrote: »

Yep Mourinho is such a footballing moron ill phone into Roman 2moro and get in you in.. deal?

Don't waste your time.
Pick up a dictionary and familiarise yourself with the English language first.

30-07-2014 09:21PM

Phoenix wrote: »

Interesting comments by some regarding Lukaku quite frankly his attitude stank,which was very clear after he missed the penalty in the super cup final and from that deteriorated along with gaping holes in his game which questioned his suitability with Chelsea,is it any wonder why Jose didn't pick him with a background to it similar with previous managers who loaned him as he was quite ready to make the jump to a title contending team like Chelsea which also has big European aspirations.
As we saw during the world cup there has been very pertinent questions of Lukaku's play during a high pressure big game stage
All and all I do wish him well there

Are we questioning Hazard? He was dreadful at the world cup, worse than Lukaku in fact.

Crann na Beatha · 30-07-2014 09:22PM

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30-07-2014 09:23PM

Phoenix wrote: »

I dont recall Hazard behaving in a manner like Lukaku prior to the world cup

In what manner was this then?

Andersonisgod · 30-07-2014 09:29PM

AdamD wrote: »

Are we questioning Hazard? He was dreadful at the world cup, worse than Lukaku in fact.

He certainly wasn't worse than Lukaku and the difference between the two in regards Chelsea is that Hazard has proven himself a sublime talent capable of breaking down tight defences, Lukaku in contrast seriously struggles to link up play and his touch is too often woeful. Unless he improves his game significantly, he is a player for an upper mid table club, not a top club.

Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

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