Clare GAA discussion thread

Browney7 · 29-07-2014 09:51PM

I'm no fan of Davy's antics but I've had one or two sessions with him years ago and thought he was a great motivator. Now whether or not you'd get sick of the screaming and jumping and shouting I don't know. Looking at him as a TV analyst you can really tell he understands the game.

If he looks back objectively on this year and realises he needs to cool his jets a bit going forward I think he'd be the better for it.

In fairness, he brought Liam back to Clare last year. He deserves another go at it.

Clareman · 29-07-2014 10:00PM

If he can sort out the hassle with the clubs, and can sort out the discipline both on and off the field (3 sending offs and backroom people suspended isn't good enough) then I think we'll have a good season next year.

Hammer Archer · 29-07-2014 10:23PM

Podge Collins' goal for Cratloe last weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riiSh_MF4Rw

The lad is unbelievably talented.

Figerty · 29-07-2014 11:00PM

savannahkat wrote: »

There are no legitimate excuses for Clare's displays this year. They were totally mismanaged. No one in authority in Clare is willing to face the truth. Journalists are banned from press briefings, referees are castigated, Croke Park is anti Clare, anything anti-Davy is now automatically anti-Clare, everything except the truth. Clare were beyond woeful as evidenced by Limericks dismantling of Wexford. That is the truth and some one is to blame and it is not the refs, or Croke Park, or any journalist just doing his job.

Fair attempt at a wind up. About 7 out 10 for it.

Easy to predict Limerick beating Wexford. Some of the Wexford players had five matches in three weeks. Tells us nothing about Clare.
The only team that has been a let down this year is Galway. Barely beat Laois and Kilkenny could have been taken.. what does that say about Kilkenny? Nothing.

savannahkat · 30-07-2014 12:28AM

Figerty wrote: »

Fair attempt at a wind up. About 7 out 10 for it.

Easy to predict Limerick beating Wexford. Some of the Wexford players had five matches in three weeks. Tells us nothing about Clare.
The only team that has been a let down this year is Galway. Barely beat Laois and Kilkenny could have been taken.. what does that say about Kilkenny? Nothing.

It is no wind up. Take offense if you like. Some times as they say the truth hurts.

Figerty · 30-07-2014 08:19AM

savannahkat wrote: »

It is no wind up. Take offense if you like. Some times as they say the truth hurts.

Funny thing is I'm in agreement with you on Fitzs antics. I think he is out of order and doesn't represent the county well on TV. It's the way you say it.

MfMan · 30-07-2014 09:55AM

Figerty wrote: »

Fair attempt at a wind up. About 7 out 10 for it.

Easy to predict Limerick beating Wexford. Some of the Wexford players had five matches in three weeks. Tells us nothing about Clare.
The only team that has been a let down this year is Galway. Barely beat Laois and Kilkenny could have been taken.. what does that say about Kilkenny? Nothing.

Why? What did they do last year to raise expectations this year? (Astonishing though it may be, they were actually a little better this year.) Clare were reigning AI champs but didn't win any c'ship match this year. Dublin were Leinster champs last year and came close to making the final; this year they were hopeless.

Pick on someone else for a change.
(A sensitive Galwayman!)

donnem33 · 30-07-2014 10:02AM

MfMan wrote: »

Why? What did they do last year to raise expectations this year? (Astonishing though it may be, they were actually a little better this year.) Clare were reigning AI champs but didn't win any c'ship match this year. Dublin were Leinster champs last year and came close to making the final; this year they were hopeless.

Pick on someone else for a change.
(A sensitive Galwayman!)

Expectations are always high in galway every year due to previous minor, u21 and club all ireland teams. Last year Clare came from absolutely nowhere (fair enough they have won a few minor and u21s but were a very young team, but they hadnt even won a match in munster in years) so why cant galway be expected to do something similar as like 2012

Grats · 30-07-2014 10:29AM

donnem33 wrote: »

Expectations are always high in galway every year due to previous minor, u21 and club all ireland teams. Last year Clare came from absolutely nowhere (fair enough they have won a few minor and u21s but were a very young team, but they hadnt even won a match in munster in years) so why cant galway be expected to do something similar as like 2012

Do you think it may have anything to do with Clare minors/u21s been battle hardened and thus ready for the step up to senior?

donnem33 · 30-07-2014 10:36AM

Grats wrote: »

Do you think it may have anything to do with Clare minors/u21s been battle hardened and thus ready for the step up to senior?

possibly...but its a incredibly talented group of players they have. I love watching tony kelly and colm galvin, they dont come much more skillful than those two players

My original point was they came out of nowhere last year to win the all ireland. Im sure even the most optimistic clare follower would not have expected them to win a senior all ireland so soon

Figerty · 30-07-2014 12:09PM

MfMan wrote: »

Why? What did they do last year to raise expectations this year? (Astonishing though it may be, they were actually a little better this year.) Clare were reigning AI champs but didn't win any c'ship match this year. Dublin were Leinster champs last year and came close to making the final; this year they were hopeless.

Pick on someone else for a change.
(A sensitive Galwayman!)

The let down for hurling supporters is the potential that Galway has isn't being realised and I wouldn't put it all down to the management. There have been plenty good management teams that haven't broken through.
The Galway county championship seems to be more like a faction fight sometimes than a hurling contest. You would wonder does this affect the county team inner workings? I lived with Galway county hurlers at one stage and the hatred within the club scene couldn't be put away when you put a Galway jersey on them.

I watched Galway this year and there seems to be a lot more in them. That's the disappointment.

MfMan · 30-07-2014 12:23PM

Figerty wrote: »

The let down for hurling supporters is the potential that Galway has isn't being realised and I wouldn't put it all down to the management. There have been plenty good management teams that haven't broken through.
The Galway county championship seems to be more like a faction fight sometimes than a hurling contest. You would wonder does this affect the county team inner workings? I lived with Galway county hurlers at one stage and the hatred within the club scene couldn't be put away when you put a Galway jersey on them.

I watched Galway this year and there seems to be a lot more in them. That's the disappointment.

I'm sure most counties have their internecine rivalries, but I agree to a certain extent, old feuds between clubs in Galway seem to persist longer than is good for them. You would hope that with lads going to college and mixing more than ever, this old-fashioned approach would fade away.

On a related note, just got round to watching the second half of the Tipp game last night. For all the bad things said about Galway, they just didn't have a lot of luck. Every little mistake they made was punished, e.g. Daithi Burke gave away the ball right on the sideline 50 metres out, Lar scoops it up and throws over an outrageous point; Noel McGrath scoring the type of points he has never done against any other opposition; free given against Cathal Mannion for a hook (even Nicky English said it wasn't); Callinan's goal-attempt rebound falling right into his path etc.

Then Ger Lock comes on the Sunday Game spouting about Galway not able to win ball in the HF line; if he took time to analyse the game he would have seen that Galway, from their own puck out or defensive clearances in the 2nd half, actually won most of them, either directly or at the breakdown.

Grats · 30-07-2014 03:00PM

MfMan wrote: »

I'm sure most counties have their internecine rivalries, but I agree to a certain extent, old feuds between clubs in Galway seem to persist longer than is good for them. You would hope that with lads going to college and mixing more than ever, this old-fashioned approach would fade away.

On a related note, just got round to watching the second half of the Tipp game last night. For all the bad things said about Galway, they just didn't have a lot of luck. Every little mistake they made was punished, e.g. Daithi Burke gave away the ball right on the sideline 50 metres out, Lar scoops it up and throws over an outrageous point; Noel McGrath scoring the type of points he has never done against any other opposition; free given against Cathal Mannion for a hook (even Nicky English said it wasn't); Callinan's goal-attempt rebound falling right into his path etc.

Then Ger Lock comes on the Sunday Game spouting about Galway not able to win ball in the HF line; if he took time to analyse the game he would have seen that Galway, from their own puck out or defensive clearances in the 2nd half, actually won most of them, either directly or at the breakdown.

Don't want to have a Galway discussion on the Clare thread but just to respond to the last paragraph in above post - Loughnane is always waiting for an opportunity to get at Galway. Mind you he criticised Tipp last Sun for not been able to win ball in the forwards also.

Stationmaster · 30-07-2014 05:30PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

good news for all the davy fitz skeptics out there , he has just confirmed that he intends to see out the remaining 3 years left in his"contract" ........ after meeting with the county board , just in time to rule out any talk of an anthoney daly return

clare team announced for the game against cork on wednesday night sees two changes as shane o donnell comes in for shane mcgrath and eoin enright comes in for alan o'neill

the final 2 remaing round 2 group games in the senior club championship games are down for this weekend also with the cracker of sixmilebridge and cratloe is down for saterday evening in cusack park while the ballyea v clooney quinn tie is fixed for sunday in sixmilebridge

4 games to be played to finish round 2. Mills v Josephs at 5.30pm Sat in the park followed by The Bridge and Cratloe at 7.

On Sunday, Wolfe Tones play Eire Og at 12 in the park with Clooney and Ballyea meeting st 6.30pm (I think).

windy shepard henderson · 01-08-2014 08:25PM

Stationmaster wrote: »

4 games to be played to finish round 2. Mills v Josephs at 5.30pm Sat in the park followed by The Bridge and Cratloe at 7.

On Sunday, Wolfe Tones play Eire Og at 12 in the park with Clooney and Ballyea meeting st 6.30pm (I think).

yep all big games , didnt meen to leave any out but i was working of the great clare gaa website, looking forward to tommorow evening and the bridge v cratloe game huge game

no mention of the clare u21s from the other night , good win but in fairness the inter county experience of ourl ads was the massive difference.

also for all the work gerry o connor and donal moloney have done deserve a lot more then what they get , they were the key to last years all ireland senior success , they put together two thirds of davy fitzs backroom team before he even got involved , they brought the players up from under 14s under 16 level , and still continue to work hard at that level behind the scenes

at no point did they ever complain about " the powers that be" ruining clare hurling , at no point did they have to attack journalists for suggesting that they got there tactics wrong , never cared what code of sport the players played when not playing hurling, they never asked for anything they never complained about anything , since 2009 clare have won 2 munster minor titles 4 munster u21 championships 3 u21 all ireland titles 1 intermediate all ireland and 1 senior all ireland

for a county that had little or no sucess that is some reccord , they didnt manage all those teams but they did produce the majority of those players from development stage , and they did bring along the likes of paul kinnerk who was crucial to last years senior sucess, for as long as these two men are working with our underage set ups the future of clare hurling is in very safe hands

letowski · 01-08-2014 09:48PM

The Bridge v Cratloe is going to be an interesting game. Likely there is going to be an edge to it, after what happened last month when Cratloe thought the fixture might go ahead. The Bridge lose their out.

Two very talented teams. Cratloe as we know have some outstanding stars, but the Bridge are young and well balanced thoughout, with no obvious weaknessess.

Looking forward to it. I'd fancy Eire Og (without SOD), Ballyea and the Mills in the others.

letowski · 02-08-2014 11:58PM

Clare SHC Round 2:

Cratloe 1-18 Sixmilebridge 1-15.

Champions are out. In fairness they did have a tough group and only lost both games by 3, so it was as if they didn't totally let themselves down. Still it's disappointing for them as they would have foreseen to have been at the business end of the season. Cratloe on the other hand have done excellent and are well place to challenge for the title. Goes without saying they have some stand-out stars. What's the odds on the double, wouldn't be a massive surprise!!

It was a decent competitve game this evening right through. The Bridge started well in the second half with a goal, but could have had more, missed a penalty. Cratloe showed their class with Cathal McInerney scoring a brilliant point to seal the win. They scored a brilliant team goal in the first half which put them into the lead they never lost. I think they have more maturity about them this year with leaders that will give them a good chance of going all the way.

Clare SBHC Round 2:

O'Callaghan Mills 4-13 St. Joeseph D/B 1-8

Bad loss for Joes. There in Intermediate next year which is very disappointing for their club. For a club that has some of the best facilities in the county, it must be very deflating to see their senior team perform so poorly. I only saw the second half and they were poor to be fair, very aimless and off the pace. I expect The Mills to win the group, they have a good team, with Clare corner back, Conor 'Rocky' Cooney doing well at full forward.

windy shepard henderson · 03-08-2014 03:31AM

letowski wrote: »

Clare SHC Round 2:

Cratloe 1-18 Sixmilebridge 1-15.

Champions are out. In fairness they did have a tough group and only lost both games by 3, so it was as if they didn't totally let themselves down. Still it's disappointing for them as they would have foreseen to have been at the business end of the season. Cratloe on the other hand have done excellent and are well place to challenge for the title. Goes without saying they have some stand-out stars. What's the odds on the double, wouldn't be a massive surprise!!

It was a decent competitve game this evening right through. The Bridge started well in the second half with a goal, but could have had more, missed a penalty. Cratloe showed their class with Cathal McInerney scoring a brilliant point to seal the win. They scored a brilliant team goal in the first half which put them into the lead they never lost. I think they have more maturity about them this year with leaders that will give them a good chance of going all the way.

Clare SBHC Round 2:

O'Callaghan Mills 4-13 St. Joeseph D/B 1-8

Bad loss for Joes. There in Intermediate next year which is very disappointing for their club. For a club that has some of the best facilities in the county, it must be very deflating to see their senior team perform so poorly. I only saw the second half and they were poor to be fair, very aimless and off the pace. I expect The Mills to win the group, they have a good team, with Clare corner back, Conor 'Rocky' Cooney doing well at full forward.

listen if i was being blunt sixmilebridge left it behind them they had 2 thirds of the possession and still couldnt make use of anything, they missed a penalty with the game in the balance they hit several wides in the process , cratlloe were in and out of the game , other then sean collins and connor mcgrath they played elow themselves a good game but it still looks like clonlara or newmarket for the county championship

windy shepard henderson · 03-08-2014 03:32AM

letowski wrote: »

Clare SHC Round 2:

Cratloe 1-18 Sixmilebridge 1-15.

Champions are out. In fairness they did have a tough group and only lost both games by 3, so it was as if they didn't totally let themselves down. Still it's disappointing for them as they would have foreseen to have been at the business end of the season. Cratloe on the other hand have done excellent and are well place to challenge for the title. Goes without saying they have some stand-out stars. What's the odds on the double, wouldn't be a massive surprise!!

It was a decent competitve game this evening right through. The Bridge started well in the second half with a goal, but could have had more, missed a penalty. Cratloe showed their class with Cathal McInerney scoring a brilliant point to seal the win. They scored a brilliant team goal in the first half which put them into the lead they never lost. I think they have more maturity about them this year with leaders that will give them a good chance of going all the way.

Clare SBHC Round 2:

O'Callaghan Mills 4-13 St. Joeseph D/B 1-8

Bad loss for Joes. There in Intermediate next year which is very disappointing for their club. For a club that has some of the best facilities in the county, it must be very deflating to see their senior team perform so poorly. I only saw the second half and they were poor to be fair, very aimless and off the pace. I expect The Mills to win the group, they have a good team, with Clare corner back, Conor 'Rocky' Cooney doing well at full forward.

thanks for the match report i didnt make the first game , sad to see doora barefield in so much trouble

letowski · 03-08-2014 10:24AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

listen if i was being blunt sixmilebridge left it behind them they had 2 thirds of the possession and still couldnt make use of anything, they missed a penalty with the game in the balance they hit several wides in the process , cratlloe were in and out of the game , other then sean collins and connor mcgrath they played elow themselves a good game but it still looks like clonlara or newmarket for the county championship

Ya that's fair enough comment. I thought it was strange to see them so poor in possession. For a team that isn't as badly effected by county stars, they were poor in their execution. They were very cohesive last year. Jamie was a waste too in full forward, they needed players like him on the ball more.

I'd still give Cratloe a good chance, though the football commitments make things harder. They will have unlimited access now to McGrath, Podge, Ryan, Cathal Mc, etc. and will certainly get better, especially after last night. They are very tight nit.

Should make for a very good championship anyway.

windy shepard henderson · 03-08-2014 12:50PM

letowski wrote: »

Ya that's fair enough comment. I thought it was strange to see them so poor in possession. For a team that isn't as badly effected by county stars, they were poor in their execution. They were very cohesive last year. Jamie was a waste too in full forward, they needed players like him on the ball more.

I'd still give Cratloe a good chance, though the football commitments make things harder. They will have unlimited access now to McGrath, Podge, Ryan, Cathal Mc, etc. and will certainly get better, especially after last night. They are very tight nit.

Should make for a very good championship anyway.

it will make for a great finish but i just think newmarket would have the defence to cope with the cratloe forwards and clonlara would have punished them had they being givin the same chances

alan mulready surely has to be called up to the inter county set up for the extended panel later in the year , he was excellent in the air last night and probably the bridge's best forward, he was solid all last year too and a great ball winner , somthing we are missing at inter county level , would he be good enough for the highest level

pa shanahan probably should have started too ,another who had a serious championship last year , made an instant impact when he came on to set up the attack that won the penalty , another inter county hopeful connor deasy didnt have his best 60 mins either but he's young and has a big future ahead of him , probably needs to bulk up a bit though ,he struggled to break the tackle at times

letowski · 03-08-2014 01:33PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

it will make for a great finish but i just think newmarket would have the defence to cope with the cratloe forwards and clonlara would have punished them had they being givin the same chances

alan mulready surely has to be called up to the inter county set up for the extended panel later in the year , he was excellent in the air last night and probably the bridge's best forward, he was solid all last year too and a great ball winner , somthing we are missing at inter county level , would he be good enough for the highest level

pa shanahan probably should have started too ,another who had a serious championship last year , made an instant impact when he came on to set up the attack that won the penalty , another inter county hopeful connor deasy didnt have his best 60 mins either but he's young and has a big future ahead of him , probably needs to bulk up a bit though ,he struggled to break the tackle at times

I think Mulready is about 6'4 or something. The bridge use him well around the square as he has an excellent paw, and gets goals. I think I heard by someone he played 3 years minor but none at U21, which is strange. I'd agree though, Davy needs to start looking at other lads that are prominent in the air. I think Mulready is a bit skinny though and isn't the fastest.

It's interesting wrt Shanahan, how he is playing his best hurling for Clare at wing back. He has never played there at any level for the bridge. Just at a time when Clare have excellent half backs and a lack of half forwards. :rolleyes:

windy shepard henderson · 05-08-2014 08:33PM

results from the weekends hurling championships

Saturday 2nd Senior championship round 2 group 3

Cratloe 1-18 1-15 Sixmilebridge

SENIOR B championship group 2

O'Callaghans Mills 4-13 1-08 Doora/Barefield

Sunday 3rd Senior Championship Round 2 Group 1

Ballyea 1-14 1-11 Clooney/Quinn

Senior "B" Championship Round 2 Group 1

Eire og 0-20 1-11 Wolfe Tones

Intermediate Hurling Championship
Group 3 round 3

Killineana 2-20 2-11 Clarecastle
Sixmilebridge 1-22 1-12 Crusheen

Group 2 Round 3

Feakle 0-24 1-12 Parteen
Corofin 2-18 0-10 Newmarket

Group 1 Round 3

Cratloe 1-14 1-08 0gonnelloe
Smith O'briens 2-22 1-10 meellick

sorry for the delay of results , long weekend and all that

link http://www.clare.gaa.ie/club-games/hurling/hurling-fixtures-2010/senior-hurling-championship for tables and results . final round of group games to take place in two weeks time

clonlara , newmarket , cratloe , clarecastle , crusheen , eire og all through to the 1/4 finals they will be joined by the winners of ballyea v inagh/kilnamona
and the winners of broadford v O'callaghans mills

LuckyGent88 · 05-08-2014 10:00PM

Cheers for all the updates windy Shepard.
Just wondering whether the quarter finals are a seeded draw or an open draw?

Hidalgo · 05-08-2014 10:49PM

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Cheers for all the updates windy Shepard.
Just wondering whether the quarter finals are a seeded draw or an open draw?

This is how q finals worked last year I think.
The 3 senior A group winners are all seeded. I think one of the 2nd place teams (via a draw) make up the 4th seeded team. That's how it worked a few years ago anyhow. Such a draw would leave the 3 senior A winners and the one senior A 2nd place drawn against the remaining 2 senior A runner ups and the 2 senior B winners.

windy shepard henderson · 08-08-2014 09:15PM

fixtures for the 2nd round of the football championship saterday

17:00 @cooraclare

miltown v kilkee verdict miltown

17: 45 @kilmihil

kilmurry ibricane v shannon gaels verdict kilmurry

19:00 @cusack park

lissycaesy v clondegad verdict : clondegad

19:15 @kilmihil

doonbeg v st josephs doora/barefield verdict doonbeg

intermediate football championship

16:00 @gurteen

corofin v killdysert verdict : corofin

16:00 @ennistymon

kilfarnora v eire og verdict eire og

windy shepard henderson · 08-08-2014 09:22PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

This is how q finals worked last year I think.
The 3 senior A group winners are all seeded. I think one of the 2nd place teams (via a draw) make up the 4th seeded team. That's how it worked a few years ago anyhow. Such a draw would leave the 3 senior A winners and the one senior A 2nd place drawn against the remaining 2 senior A runner ups and the 2 senior B winners.

yeah thats what happened last year with last years 1/4 finals looked like this

ballyea (senior

V crusheen (group winner)

mills (senior B ) v clonlare (group winner)

inagh/kilnamona (2nd placed) v newmarket ( group winner)

sixmilebridge (2nd placed) v tubber (2nd placed)

next years championship will be better in my opinion , it will follow the same line as the current football championship, not a fan of group games in championship

windy shepard henderson · 09-08-2014 09:08PM

senior football championship results

Doonbeg 0-14 -0-04 doora/barefield

kilmrry ibrickane 1-13 0-03 shannnon gaels

clondegad 2-10 - 0-11 lissycaesy

miltown 3-12 0-06 kilkee

intermiedite football championship

kildysert 0-14 - 1-7 corofin

kilfarnora 1-13 1-10 eire og (B)

sundays senior football championship fixtures

@ clarecastle 13:00 cratloe v cooreclare , verdict cratloe

@ doonbeg 13:00 kilrush v o currys . verdict kilrush

@ corofin 17:30 eire og v liscannor verdict eire og

@ corofin 19:15 ennistymon v st breackans , verdict ennistymon

intermediate football championship

@ cooreclare ,17:00 kilmihil v kilmurry ibrickane (B)

Boots234 · 10-08-2014 07:03PM

sundays senior football championship fixtures

@ clarecastle 13:00 cratloe v cooreclare , (Cratloe won by 4)

@ doonbeg 13:00 kilrush v o currys . (O'Curry's by a point)

@ corofin 17:30 eire og v liscannor (Eire Og won 2-12 to 6 point)

@ corofin 19:15 ennistymon v st breackans , verdict ennistymon

intermediate football championship

@ cooreclare ,17:00 kilmihil v kilmurry ibrickane (Kilmihil won 4-17 to 3 points)

Looks to be a battle between Kilmihil and Wolfe Tones for the intermediate championship

windy shepard henderson · 10-08-2014 07:25PM

Boots234 wrote: »

sundays senior football championship fixtures

@ clarecastle 13:00 cratloe v cooreclare , (Cratloe won by 4)

@ doonbeg 13:00 kilrush v o currys . (O'Curry's by a point)

@ corofin 17:30 eire og v liscannor (Eire Og won 2-12 to 6 point)

@ corofin 19:15 ennistymon v st breackans , verdict ennistymon

intermediate football championship

@ cooreclare ,17:00 kilmihil v kilmurry ibrickane (Kilmihil won 4-17 to 3 points)

Looks to be a battle between Kilmihil and Wolfe Tones for the intermediate championship

strange weekend in the senior championship alot of men vs boys type results , out of the loosers probably only cooraclare can hold there head high after running cratloe close enough, they were hammered by them last year

as far as i know the relagation picture looks like this

kilrush v shannon gaels

ennistmon/ st breckans v liscannor

you would imagine kilrush will be too strong for the geals , while liscannor also look in big trouble , if it dose work out to be a kilmihil v wolf tones intermediate final the losers in my opinion would probably be favorites to go up next year , a few of them teams in the play off look like they are in big trouble with little underage coming through , personally i think it will be the gaels who go down they lost a load of players to retirement and there underage set up is amalgamated with kilmihil , although i doubt there will be a senior combination put together if both find themselves at intermediate level next year

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