Clare GAA discussion thread

letowski

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

They put it up to them in fairness and only for a few bad wides in the second half we could easily have won and it would have been no fluke. I'd still be hopeful for next year though, Colm Collins seems to have brought them on a huge amount this year.

Ya, I'd agree, just lacked that bit of composure. Kildare were able to bring on good subs which just about got them over the line.

Next year Colm will know a better squad and another year of S&C will be a huge benefit to the team heading into the last 15 minutes. Playing in D3 will also be massive.

There's a real feel good and excitement about Clare football now which is brilliant. I've never seen my granda so excited.:) Colm, Ger, Paudie, Chris deserve huge credit.

Clareman

5 Championship matches with a extremely positive scoring difference, win away from home in the championship, run Kerry close, lose to Kildare by a point, promotion from division 4, yup, that's 1 extremely positive year for the footballers. Well done all involved, have to grow on it now though.

Clareman

Clareman wrote: »

5 Championship matches with a extremely positive scoring difference, win away from home in the championship, run Kerry close, lose to Kildare by a point, promotion from division 4, yup, that's 1 extremely positive year for the footballers. Well done all involved, have to grow on it now though.

Indeed, a great year for both yourselves and ourselves and i hope ye can only continue to get better. Hopefully together the so called weaker four can go on and build on this and then ram it down the necks of the Munster bureaucrats with their seeded draw.

Clareman

Deleted User wrote: »

Indeed, a great year for both yourselves and ourselves and i hope ye can only continue to get better. Hopefully together the so called weaker four can go on and build on this and then ram it down the necks of the Munster bureaucrats with their seeded draw.

I'm afraid the only way the seeded draw will be gone will be when the supporters start going to games, the munster final between Clare and Cork only had about 9,000 at it, it's up to the supporters to get behind the teams, of course the teams can help by being competitive

Clareman

Clareman wrote: »

I'm afraid the only way the seeded draw will be gone will be when the supporters start going to games, the munster final between Clare and Cork only had about 9,000 at it, it's up to the supporters to get behind the teams, of course the teams can help by being competitive

Fair point. Catch 22 really. To draw the crowds you need a good team and perhaps to develop the team in terms of funding you need bums on seats.
Supporters could of course be doing better. I have preference for the hurling admittedly but support the Tipp footballers whenever i can.

Was there much of a crowd in Ennis last night given that Clare are out of the hurling?

Clareman

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair point. Catch 22 really. To draw the crowds you need a good team and perhaps to develop the team in terms of funding you need bums on seats.
Supporters could of course be doing better. I have preference for the hurling admittedly but support the Tipp footballers whenever i can.

Was there much of a crowd in Ennis last night given that Clare are out of the hurling?

7,500, about the same as the under 21 during the week, there was a big Kildare crowd there as well. It's a catch 22 situation really, the great thing about the seeded draw though is that it isn't for Cork and Kerry, it's for the previous years finalists, so if Clare or Tipp were to have won this year they would be seeded next year and Cork and Kerry might have been drawn against each other. Still can't believe that counties (besides Cork and Kerry of course) agreed to it, turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind

windy shepard henderson

good effort last night never easy to lose by a point but our legs went from under us with 15mins to go.

i noticed alot of criticism from the killdare supporters aimed at jason ryan but his use of the subs last night is the main reason they are still in the championship , i dont think he has a better hand of players then we do as it was experience of playing at the higher level that helped kildare over the line

we failed to score for 25 mins in the second half which is something we will have to learn from , and while i dont like naming and shaming players but one or two of our key players failed to turn up , dispite the close nature of the scoreline it wasnt our best performance of the season

maybe the narrow defeat will be a blessing in disguise , it would have been a tough ask to overturn a team like monaghan the next day , its no bad thing to leave the championship with our heads held high , we blooded a number of newcomers and i would expect to see one or two more young lads making the panel for the league next year

the club football championship will start next week as a result , which is no bad thing although i wont hold my breath on another fixtures fiasco raising its head ........not for as long as malty mcdounagh and pat fitz are sitting in the wheel house manning the controls :eek:

windy shepard henderson

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

........not for as long as malty mcdounagh and pat fitz are sitting in the wheel house manning the controls :eek:

wheel house was probably a bad choice of words , cock pit would have been a better example :rolleyes:

windy shepard henderson

first round of the 2014 football championship gets under way tomorrow afternoon with the game of the week end see's a repeat of last years semi final between eire og and eventual winners cratloe in cusack park

14:30 @ lissycaesy: St Josephs Doora Barefield v Shannon Gaels: gaels had a woeful league campaign doora/barefield were not much better but with several players retiring from the west clare side its st Josephs to lose

15:00 @ Doonbeg: St Josephs Milltown v O Currys: miltown came close to winning the muster intermediate championship last year and are set to be major players in this years championship . could be without connor cleary due to his involvement with the clare U21 hurlers Wednesday night

16:30 @ Doonbeg: Kilmurry-Ibrickane v St Senan's Kilkee: The blues are nowhere near the force they once were , KIB should kick of there centenary championship with a comfortable win

18:00 @ cusack park: Clondegad v St Breckans : no tony kelly for clondegad but they do have garry brennan , and the in form podge mcmahon, clondegad should win easy enough, the lisdoonvarna outfit however are favorites to go down this year

19:30@ cusack park :Cratloe v Eire Og possibly the club game of the weekend anywhere in the country , cratloe have added a few more east clare native's to there ranks but the addition of limerick legend john galvin to there ranks will make them major contenders to retain there tittle

The townies are already in the cusack cup final and boast one of the most impressive underage setups seen in the county , expect to see a few make a mark tomorrow night and included in next years inter county setup

cathal mc is out for cratloe , he scored 2 goals in last years semi final , expect the pendulum to swing in Eire og's favor, major outsiders at 7/1

windy shepard henderson

only two games in the senior on sunday with the intermediate kicking off


14:30@ labasheada : Cooraclare v Kilrush Shamrocks : kilrush without nearly half there first team due to injuries or travel commitments , cooraclare just lost narrowly to doonbeg in the gorman cup final could have done better last year , were hampered by county board frolics before there 1/4 final , probably wont win the championship but should win this one

18:00@cooraclare: Lissycasey v Liscannor potential banana skin for last years semi finalists , alot expected of lissycaesy this year they could get caught here , slightly favor lisscannor

(saterday)19:00@ miltown: Doonbeg v Ennistymon: wont be pretty , expect doonbeg to prevail in a tight game

intermediate championship all sunday

13:00 labasheada : kilmihil v kildysert :: verdict kilmihil
13:00 gurteen : eire og v clarecastle :: verdict eire og
14:30 gurteen : kilfarnora v wolfe tones :: verdict wolf tones
18:00 miltown : K.I.B v corofin :: verdict corofin

windy shepard henderson

results so far today

St Josephs Doora Barefield 0-9 0-6 Shannon Gaels

St Josephs Milltown 0-9 0-5 O Currys

St Senan's Kilkee 0-10 0-9 Kilmurry-Ibrickane

big shock as championship favorites k.i b are beaten in the first round , allowed michael o shea to kick 7 points , darragh kelly with the winner in the dying seconds of the game helped the blues through to the next round and screwed up many an accumulator ( mine included :mad: ) should send shock waves around the county and makes the cratloe / eire og game that little bit more interesting in the park tonight ,

windy shepard henderson

Senior football championship round 1

St Josephs doora/barefield 0-9 0-6 shannon gales

St Josephs miltown 0-9 0-5 O'currys

kilkee 0-10 0-9 kilmurry ibrickane

clondegad 2-12 0-10 st breckans

cratloe 2-12 1-12 eire og

doonbeg 2-15 0-05 ennistymon

cooraclare 1-15 0-05 kilrush

lissycasey 0-13 0-07 liscannor

intermediate championship

kilmihil 0-14 0-10 kildysart
eire og 1-11 2-06 clarecastle
wolfe tones 2-18 1-05 kilfarnora
corofin 4-13 1-07 kilmurry ibrickane

draw to be made tomorow morning for the next round of the championship , then all focus on wednesday night for the big one against cork in the hurlling and our last chance at some silverware for 2014 at intercounty level

Boots234

I'd say KIB upset many an accumulator, most of the other results were predicable enough. Some big wins in the intermediate championship for Wolfe Tones and Corofin. Kilmihil had a good win too. The Kilmihil/Kildysart/Corofin group looks to be the tougher group but Wolfe Tones must surely be favourites to go straight back up

windy shepard henderson

Boots234 wrote: »

I'd say KIB upset many an accumulator, most of the other results were predicable enough. Some big wins in the intermediate championship for Wolfe Tones and Corofin. Kilmihil had a good win too. The Kilmihil/Kildysart/Corofin group looks to be the tougher group but Wolfe Tones must surely be favourites to go straight back up

wolfe tones will probably go straight back up , they have put up some very impressive scorelins in the league against senior teams , and todays win underlines that , kilmihil and corofin will probably be there main challengers , corofin were unlucky last year not to beat miltown in the semi final , they also lay'd down a big marker against k.i.b's second team

Boots234

No one will come near Tones in their group. Any idea of when the next round of games is on and are Corofin playing Kilmihil next or are they playing in the last round?

windy shepard henderson

not 100% sure but i think the next round will take place in two weeks time , as far as i know the junior championship starts next week with the hurling resuming on the 16/17 of august so i presume they will try to squeeze in the next round inbetween , i heard somewhere last week that the plan was to go every second week after that with hurling one week football the next , although with our county board that would be too straight forward

and as for the fixtures , again not 100% sure but yeah i think its going to be kilmihil v corofin and k.i.b v kildysart in group 1

Boots234

It's impossible to find out the fixtures anywhere. The Clare gaa website must be one of the worst in the country

letowski

Boots234 wrote: »

It's impossible to find out the fixtures anywhere. The Clare gaa website must be one of the worst in the country

Couldn't agree more, it's diabolical. While other counties websites have match reports, up to date news, player profiles, etc. our county gaa website has, well, barely anything!

Boots234

I thought that they were planning on employing somebody to look after the website? Maybe that was a few years ago but that website is in the dark ages compared to county board's websites

letowski

Boots234 wrote: »

I thought that they were planning on employing somebody to look after the website? Maybe that was a few years ago but that website is in the dark ages compared to county board's websites

Yes, there is a PR manager, that would be his job I would imagine. Club websites are way better than the county one which tells alot really.

windy shepard henderson

yeah its a joke of a website very hard to get any sort of info on it , there is no fixtures for either code tonight on there so no one really knows whats happining,i dont think the county board do at timers either

when the hurling championship was put back before the clare wexford game , all the club hurling matches were put back until the 16 of august , and i heard from someone high up with a west clare club that they recived an e-mail saying the the plan from the county board was to go every second week , however i will believe it when i see it

Gael85

Winners Draw
Clondegad v Lissycasey
Kilkee v Milltown
Cooraclare v Cratloe
Doonbeg v Doora/Barefield

Losers Draw
KIB v Shannon Gaels
O'Currys v Kilrush
Eire Og V Liscannor
Ennistymon v Breckans

Boots234

Some very difficult games to call from that draw. I think the Gaels got the draw that no one wanted in that group!

windy shepard henderson

Gael85 wrote: »

Winners Draw
Clondegad v Lissycasey
Kilkee v Milltown
Cooraclare v Cratloe
Doonbeg v Doora/Barefield

Losers Draw
KIB v Shannon Gaels
O'Currys v Kilrush
Eire Og V Liscannor
Ennistymon v Breckans

forgot about the draw tonight , the lissycasey v clondegad game looks the tie of the round , i would expect miltown and kilkee to be fairly happy with there draw , a good test to see where they really are , doonbeg and cratloe should progress to the 1/4 finals

the losers draw looks fairly straight forward bar the ennistimon breckans game which looks to be a coin toss. the losers of that game i would imagine can expect to be in the hat for relegation play off along with liscannor , shannon gaels , and unless something drastically changes in the next few weeks, kilrush will also be joining them on the drop list , and as one of the main contenders for the drop on yesterdays showing

windy shepard henderson

good news for all the davy fitz skeptics out there , he has just confirmed that he intends to see out the remaining 3 years left in his"contract" ........ after meeting with the county board , just in time to rule out any talk of an anthoney daly return

clare team announced for the game against cork on wednesday night sees two changes as shane o donnell comes in for shane mcgrath and eoin enright comes in for alan o'neill

the final 2 remaing round 2 group games in the senior club championship games are down for this weekend also with the cracker of sixmilebridge and cratloe is down for saterday evening in cusack park while the ballyea v clooney quinn tie is fixed for sunday in sixmilebridge

Figerty

He was always going to get another go at it and deserves it. Davy has a bigger problem than Daly, the U21 management shold be looking to step up.
Davys antics with the journalist and his antics on the sideline show he is a man under pressure. I thought he was going to crack.i thought after the Wexford loss he looked like a man that had a weight lifted of his shoulders.
If Clare don't perform next year then he would be wise to step down before the players turn against him.

marco_polo

I wouldn't be Davy's biggest fan by a long shot but I think it is probably fair that he should get one more crack at it off the back of last year, my only real fear would be if next year doesn't go well, politics will see that he gets another two chance in the following years regardless of performance.

Fireball07

Don't think it's any real surprise that Davy has been given another go. He has something to prove after this year... I suppose the team will get a bit of a break now, and he'll have more preparation time. We'll see how it goes.

savannahkat

There are no legitimate excuses for Clare's displays this year. They were totally mismanaged. No one in authority in Clare is willing to face the truth. Journalists are banned from press briefings, referees are castigated, Croke Park is anti Clare, anything anti-Davy is now automatically anti-Clare, everything except the truth. Clare were beyond woeful as evidenced by Limericks dismantling of Wexford. That is the truth and some one is to blame and it is not the refs, or Croke Park, or any journalist just doing his job.

Clareman

First of all let me just say that Davy has to stay on, the man managed Clare to an All Ireland and his father is the Don of Clare GAA ffs, the only way he's leaving is if he wants to. This season there's been hassle with refs/media/lubs, stories of player unrest, but a lot of that is conjecture, for the purpose of fairness lets have a look at his Championship record since he took over, I'm going to count games that go to extra time as a draw. I don't think it's fair to use the league as a barometer as we have been in different tiers over the past 4 years.

2014 3 games, 1 loss and 2 draws.
2013 7 games, 4 wins, 1 loss and 2 draws.
2012 3 games, 1 win, 2 losses
2011 2 games, 2 losses
Total 15 games, 5 wins, 4 draws, 6 losses.
Allowing for extra time win/loss 15 games, 6 wins, 7 losses, 2 draws

That's a winning percent of 33% (40% if you want to include extra time), that's not a great return considering the quality of the players and the amount of money being spent. As I said, he's not going anywhere, but I would like some accountability for the off the pitch actions as well as my dream of our inter-county manager not being the son of the person in charge.