I'm so angry at this country right now

miss no stars · 29-07-2014 07:23PM #1

I've just had a really nice seeming young guy at the door asking me to sign up to the Temple Street Miracle Club. Basically to get donations in to buy incubators and basic equipment. FFS. I turned him away cos I wanted to have a proper look at it first and see what it's about but he didn't have any brochures on him.

What the hell is wrong with this country? We've plenty of money for tribunals and for providing facilities for prisons and fleets of brand new state cars and for bailing out banks and for people to bring nuisance cases to the supreme court, plenty of money to supervise traveller scumbags blockading an entire area, but good people are having to go door to door after work trying to get people to commit to giving 50 measly cents a day to buy basic equipment for a children's hospital.

And what's worse is the government have managed to tax the economy so far into the ground that disposable income is so low that normal people actually have to figure out if they can afford 50c a day.

:mad:

And I know it sounds like another "de gubbermint" rant, but really. Look at where the money actually is being spent and look at what's been cut. Soft targets who can't fight back.

Victor · 29-07-2014 07:25PM

miss no stars wrote: »

I've just had a really nice seeming young guy at the door asking me to sign up to the Temple Street Miracle Club. Basically to get donations in to buy incubators and basic equipment.

This screams scam.

Tipsy McSwagger · 29-07-2014 07:25PM

Anyone who goes door to door looking for money is a nuisance IMO.

michael999999 · 29-07-2014 07:28PM

miss no stars wrote: »

I've just had a really nice seeming young guy at the door asking me to sign up to the Temple Street Miracle Club. Basically to get donations in to buy incubators and basic equipment. FFS. I turned him away cos I wanted to have a proper look at it first and see what it's about but he didn't have any brochures on him.

What the hell is wrong with this country? We've plenty of money for tribunals and for providing facilities for prisons and fleets of brand new state cars and for bailing out banks and for people to bring nuisance cases to the supreme court, plenty of money to supervise traveller scumbags blockading an entire area, but good people are having to go door to door after work trying to get people to commit to giving 50 measly cents a day to buy basic equipment for a children's hospital.

And what's worse is the government have managed to tax the economy so far into the ground that disposable income is so low that normal people actually have to figure out if they can afford 50c a day.

:mad:

And I know it sounds like another "de gubbermint" rant, but really. Look at where the money actually is being spent and look at what's been cut. Soft targets who can't fight back.

Remember this the next time Fianna fail come canvassing at your door. And the billions Bertie ahern and he's motley crew gave to developers and bankers!

Tail Docker · 29-07-2014 07:28PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Anyone who goes door to door looking for money is a nuisance IMO.

I agree. Especially them TV licence scammers, the ESB meter man and those bloody rates collectors.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 29-07-2014 07:30PM

miss no stars wrote: »

We've plenty of money for tribunals and for providing facilities for prisons

You're right, we should close all the prisons.

shruikan2553 · 29-07-2014 07:31PM

The guy at the door probably takes a cut of those 50 cents too.

Tail Docker · 29-07-2014 07:33PM

Giana Sharp Hangar wrote: »

You're right, we should close all the prisons.

It's not like you to deliberately miss the entire point with one of your replies. Are you feeling unwell?

Fr_Dougal · 29-07-2014 07:34PM

miss no stars wrote: »

I've just had a really nice seeming young guy at the door asking me to sign up to the Temple Street Miracle Club. Basically to get donations in to buy incubators and basic equipment. FFS. I turned him away

Ah, I see...

What the hell is wrong with this country?

People turn those in need away without helping.

Dowl88 · 29-07-2014 07:35PM

I would have making him dance for a euro.

LeinsterDub · 29-07-2014 07:36PM

I'm not angry with the country I'm just disappointed

Donkey Oaty · 29-07-2014 07:37PM

I'm sure their corporate staff are fine, decent people - but I can't find any reference to their accounts or a link to their annual report on their website.

Is it just me?

steddyeddy · 29-07-2014 07:37PM

Victor wrote: »

This screams scam.

Besides the point. The fact that charity and the public seem to provide so much essential health care in this country screams we haven't got our priorities right.

GoldFour4 · 29-07-2014 07:39PM

Did he have ID to prove who he was? Seems to me like anyone genuinely out collecting for such a cause would have a few leaflets to promote the good work they do.

Help!!!! · 29-07-2014 07:39PM

Giana Sharp Hangar wrote: »

You're right, we should close all the prisons.

Not close the prisons but take away the games consoles & TV's provided for the cells, dole money should go directly to the prison not wait for the scumbags when they get out.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 29-07-2014 07:41PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

It's not like you to deliberately miss the entire point with one of your replies. Are you feeling unwell?

I am feeling wonderful, thanks for asking.

Muise... · 29-07-2014 07:41PM

miss no stars wrote: »

I've just had a really nice seeming young guy at the door asking me to sign up to the Temple Street Miracle Club. Basically to get donations in to buy incubators and basic equipment. FFS. I turned him away cos I wanted to have a proper look at it first and see what it's about but he didn't have any brochures on him.

Scammy scam is scammy.

miss no stars · 29-07-2014 07:41PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Ah, I see...

People turn those in need away without helping.

I don't earn enough to pay tax. I fcukgin need help. And you can't help every cause. As it happens I did sign up but how dare you.

miss no stars · 29-07-2014 07:42PM

Muise... wrote: »

Scammy scam is scammy.

Welcome pack though.

sleepytrees · 29-07-2014 07:42PM

It could be worse you could be living in GAZA! Perspective!

29-07-2014 07:44PM

The funniest one was the years and years spent raising money for some machine or other for the Louth County Hospital. Finally the machine was bought but it couldn't be used because there was no-one in the hospital who could operate it.

As useless as the HSE is, they usually keep unneeded management workers, they won't keep skilled workers around without a machine for them to operate.

Muise... · 29-07-2014 07:45PM

sleepytrees wrote: »

It could be worse you could be living in GAZA! Perspective!

Or, less dramatically, in need of some of the state services OP deems unworthy in light of children's hospital needing to do a fundraiser.

miss no stars · 29-07-2014 07:46PM

malistheman wrote: »

Did he have ID to prove who he was? Seems to me like anyone genuinely out collecting for such a cause would have a few leaflets to promote the good work they do.

Yeah, he was wearing a temple street jacket, had a temple street ID, had the DD forms and welcome packs as well as a brochure thing, he just didn't have any flier I could take in and fill in myself. Didn't seem like a scam at all to me.

Macavity. · 29-07-2014 07:46PM

This country has let its people down, it's let its family down, it's let its teachers down, but most of all it's let its self down.

Tail Docker · 29-07-2014 07:47PM

Giana Sharp Hangar wrote: »

I am feeling wonderful, thanks for asking.

No bother, I was worried there for a minute.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 29-07-2014 07:48PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

No bother, I was worried there for a minute.

Sure you were, pal. Sure you were.

sleepytrees · 29-07-2014 07:48PM

Compared to A LOT of war zone countries. We have it good, we have it so good! When world war 3 comes then start a thread!

Guy:Incognito · 29-07-2014 07:50PM

Theres loads of money going in to the health system, its what happens between then and the output is the problem.

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-07-2014 07:51PM

Maybe the multinationals could donate a few machines to keep the children alive as a way of saying thanks for saving them billions using the state to launder their profits

InReality · 29-07-2014 07:54PM

Thing is loads of money was spent on the health service during the boom. Chucking more money at it isn't the answer.

Pro Hoc Vice · 29-07-2014 07:56PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Not close the prisons but take away the games consoles & TV's provided for the cells, dole money should go directly to the prison not wait for the scumbags when they get out.

Have you ever actually visited a prison. Mountjoy used to do visits, a cell built in Victorian times to house 1 will now house 4 2 sets of bunk beds, the only thing in the cell besides the beds and property of the inmates is a bucket (I will let you guess what that's for hint its not a play station) I have in my visits to Mountjoy limerick and cork never seen a play station in a cell. I will accept that the female prison the Dochas Centre in Dublin is a lot better than the other prisons I have seen.

It is my understanding that dole money is cut off on incarceration.

http://www.irishprisons.ie/images/pdf/annualreport2012web.pdf

The single largest cost in running prisons is staff wages 237 million out of total budget of 334 million.

BTW if you don't believe me ask a prison near you can you visit, most are not a nice place.

I'm so angry at this country right now

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