Ragwort

td5man · 22-07-2014 09:59AM

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Seen alot of them myself.. almost kill the plant completely, might start breeding them :P

They had cleaned out the seed heads on some plants. \○/

Qualitymark · 22-07-2014 10:04AM

Cinnibar, bar, bar, eat that ragwort, not the tree…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnabar_moth

https://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/20534/Ragwort_Cinnabar_Moth.pdf

td5man · 22-07-2014 10:35AM

whelan2 wrote: »

none of them here:mad:

I can lend you some

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whelan2 · 22-07-2014 10:45AM

td5man wrote: »

I can lend you some .

send them by email...... was picking some last night, they are alot smaller than other years and easier to pull.

sandydan · 22-07-2014 11:08AM

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Seen alot of them myself.. almost kill the plant completely, might start breeding them :P

might be alternative farming , best hurry before they insist on tagging and quotas::) should be good demand for them,all you need is butterfly house similar to greenhouse,saw one in West Cork around Durrus i think ,

PureBred · 22-07-2014 03:02PM

Different forms of ragworth.

As anyone seen this plant?? It's similar to what i'd call normal rawgwoth althogh not as strong and leaves smaller. Is it ragworth at all?

td5man · 22-07-2014 05:14PM

PureBred wrote: »

Different forms of ragworth.

As anyone seen this plant?? It's similar to what i'd call normal rawgwoth althogh not as strong and leaves smaller. Is it ragworth at all?

Hoary ragwort

Kovu · 22-07-2014 05:16PM

Does hoary ragwort have to be pulled or can I kill it with something in the licker?

sandydan · 22-07-2014 06:48PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

Does hoary ragwort have to be pulled or can I kill it with something in the licker?

if you have spray it should work applied by licker just as well

smokey-fitz · 22-07-2014 07:27PM

sandydan wrote: »

might be alternative farming , best hurry before they insist on tagging and quotas::) should be good demand for them,all you need is butterfly house similar to greenhouse,saw one in West Cork around Durrus i think ,

Probably more profit than sucklers too..

sandydan · 22-07-2014 07:40PM

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Probably more profit than sucklers too..

ssshhhhhhhhh whisper too much publicity could drive down profits:pac:

PureBred · 23-07-2014 02:02PM

Is hoary ragworh as poisonous as the normal ragworth?

Found it:

Hoary ragwort (S. erucifolius), a perennial that is similar to common ragwort and is locally common in England and Wales, also contains the poisonous alkaloids as does marsh ragwort (S. aquaticus) but neither is included in the legislation.

td5man · 23-07-2014 03:26PM

Anyone using forefront t to kill ragwort , not cheap @ €40/acre.

whelan2 · 23-07-2014 03:34PM

td5man wrote: »

Anyone using forefront t to kill ragwort , not cheap @ €40/acre.

used d50 in spring, killed ragworth and thistles

td5man · 23-07-2014 03:41PM

whelan2 wrote: »

used d50 in spring, killed ragworth and thistles

Same here but there is a lot of small plants reappearing.

sandydan · 23-07-2014 03:42PM

td5man wrote: »

Same here but there is a lot of small plants reappearing.

maybe late arrivals ,can be sprayed now though.

whelan2 · 23-07-2014 03:44PM

did some one say you have to spray 2 years in a row to get all the feckers as its a biennial plant?????????????????????

td5man · 23-07-2014 03:45PM

whelan2 wrote: »

did some one say you have to spray 2 years in a row to get all the feckers as its a biennial plant?????????????????????

Yep

whelan2 · 23-07-2014 03:47PM

what we sprayed this spring seems fine, what we sprayed 2 years ago we will spray again in the spring as they are back in it again. This is all on outfarm

whelan2 · 24-07-2014 03:26PM

td5man wrote: »

There's been a huge increase in cinnabar caterpillars here in the last few years.
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saw them today, i sprayed under wires in paddocks a few weeks ago and was pulling the ones i sprayed, they where covered in them

cj maxx · 27-07-2014 01:06PM

td5man wrote: »

Yep

I actually thought it was 3 yrs
Sprayed a field 2 yrs running but couldnt do the 3rd
Feckers exploded over the place !

whelan2 · 27-07-2014 01:20PM

cjmc wrote: »

I actually thought it was 3 yrs
Sprayed a field 2 yrs running but couldnt do the 3rd
Feckers exploded over the place !

no 2 years BUT if the spray wasnt done under the right conditions during one of the 2 years the whole operation would be pointless and you would have to start over, spring 2013 was far from ideal for spraying them

cj maxx · 27-07-2014 01:50PM

whelan2 wrote: »

no 2 years BUT if the spray wasnt done under the right conditions during one of the 2 years the whole operation would be pointless and you would have to start over, spring 2013 was far from ideal for spraying them

True , and theres a short time to hot them before they open

Oldtree · 27-07-2014 02:09PM

There may also be another reason for new plants appearing after spraying, even spraying twice a year. Each plant can produce 50,000-200,000 seeds and the seeds can remain viable for 5-20 years depending on soil conditions. So if the plants have been let go to seed in the last 20 years it can be (possibly) up to a 20 years problem thereafter.

http://www.teagasc.ie/horticulture/advisory/vegetable/ragwort.asp

Dock does something similar.

whelan2 · 27-07-2014 02:12PM

i asked this somewhere else but didnt get an answer, some people dispose of ragworth in their dungheap, does this not multiply the problem when the dung is spread?

greysides · 27-07-2014 02:12PM

And for extra points, can you tell me the name of the type of seed in ragwort and dandelions. Often comes up in crosswords?:)

Oldtree · 27-07-2014 02:14PM

whelan2 wrote: »

i asked this somewhere else but didnt get an answer, some people dispose of ragworth in their dungheap, does this not multiply the problem when the dung is spread?

It would if the plants were setting seed and the seeds had not died off in the heap. As they can persist for so long under normal conditions they are hardy little fellows.

whelan2 · 27-07-2014 02:15PM

greysides wrote: »

And for extra points, can you tell me the name of the type of seed in ragwort and dandelions. Often comes up in crosswords?:)

everyone goes to google to look it up:D

greysides · 27-07-2014 02:20PM

This PDF suggests that you 'Do not compost buds or flowers.'

Another PDF says this: Composting in the open is not recommended. If the composting process does not kill the seeds, there will be a risk of spread of ragwort. Composting should therefore not be used for disposal of ragwort, unless the temperatures reached are sufficient to destroy viable seed.

Qualitymark · 27-07-2014 02:59PM

greysides wrote: »

And for extra points, can you tell me the name of the type of seed in ragwort and dandelions. Often comes up in crosswords?:)

Jinny-joes

Ragwort

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