What was the worst event in modern Irish history?

John Doe1 · 22-07-2014 12:26am #1

There has been quite a few but DeValera signing a book of condolence for Hitler and the treatment of those who fight in WW2 when they returned home has got to be up there.

Also, The Omagh bombing was the most pointless waste of life on this island.

TeddyTedson · 22-07-2014 12:29am

Wasting so much of tax payers money during the boom and ending up where we are now is pretty bad.

Duff · 22-07-2014 12:29am

Jedward in the Eurovis.. in general.

hjkl · 22-07-2014 12:29am

Dublin Monaghan bombings is up there.

The Backwards Man · 22-07-2014 12:30am

Sending that turkey puppet to the Eurovision.

massdebater · 22-07-2014 12:31am

The whole Garth Brooks thing

ardmhacha22 · 22-07-2014 12:37am

When people started to turn anti N.I catholic, my grandfather said it was not like that until recent times.

greedygoblin · 22-07-2014 12:39am

So many to choose from.

The Omagh bombing.
Dublin-Monaghan bombings.
Buttevant rail crash.
Stardust tragedy.
Air India plane crash.
Aer Lingus Tuskar Rock plane crash.

ch20 · 22-07-2014 12:40am

the saipan incident with roy keane in 2002.

131spanner · 22-07-2014 12:44am

The Stardust Tragedy would always come to mind.

policarp · 22-07-2014 12:45am

Has to be the economic crash.
End of the "Celtic Tiger".

LOEF · 22-07-2014 12:46am

The Omagh bombing.
How quickly the 6 counties were forgotten by Dublin.
The continued assistance offered to the US Army via Shannon.

Panthro · 22-07-2014 12:46am

the success of Mrs Brown's boys.
I heard there's a second film in the pipeline.

Dear.
God.
No.

My name is URL · 22-07-2014 12:54am

That auld one climbing a fence & walking on to an active runway while security had to be alerted by her friend who phoned them up

She's literally Hitler

Karl Stein · 22-07-2014 12:54am

Bloody Sunday 1972.

Not for the number of people killed but the backlash it caused.

Sulla Felix · 22-07-2014 12:55am

Probably suningdale not being signed. Lead to many many more deaths for no appreciable benefit over what was initially on the table.

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-07-2014 12:56am

Kilkenny for the 5 in a row.

N N Nuther 55 · 22-07-2014 1:06am

partition,

banquo · 22-07-2014 1:07am

My name is URL wrote: »

That auld one climbing a fence & walking on to an active runway while security had to be alerted by her friend who phoned them up

She's literally Hitler

No way, man. Double Hitler.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 22-07-2014 1:12am

Norman invasion.

john the one · 22-07-2014 1:13am

Micheal Collins taking a bullet. Its a nice emotional scene in the movie, i cried reading about it in my school history books aswell.

Lapin · 22-07-2014 1:15am

The X case and the subsuquent failure of successive governments to act on it, which eventually resulted in the death of Savita Halappanavar.

Simply because our poiticians were too spinless to take ation for fear of the inevitable backlash from the altar and the loss of votes from the sheep kneeling before that altar.

You get the (bigger) picture here.

An Riabhach · 22-07-2014 1:17am

Joining the EU.

ardmhacha22 · 22-07-2014 1:18am

N N Nuther 55 wrote: »

partition,

No it made us see what the southern Irish were really like, they stood back and let the Nationalists get literally butchered in the street.
It is a division of Irish people that will never heal,

dobz95 · 22-07-2014 1:19am

Omagh bombing & Stardust I'd have to say. Sadly there have been many terrible events in Irish history

porsche959 · 22-07-2014 1:19am

John Doe1 wrote: »

There has been quite a few but DeValera signing a book of condolence for Hitler and the treatment of those who fight in WW2 when they returned home has got to be up there.

Also, The Omagh bombing was the most pointless waste of life on this island.

The ones you've mentioned would be high on my list.

Also DeValera's pointless, moronic, counter-productive trade war of the 1930s.

ardle1 · 22-07-2014 1:19am

massdebater wrote: »

The whole Garth Brooks thing

YEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAWWWWWWWWWW

I'm agreeing with you btw.

john the one · 22-07-2014 1:20am

yeah sorry forgot about the famine which is hands down the worst. defined our history

porsche959 · 22-07-2014 1:24am

Lapin wrote: »

The X case and the subsuquent failure of successive governments to act on it, which eventually resulted in the death of Savita Halappanavar.

Simply because our poiticians were too spinless to take ation for fear of the inevitable backlash from the altar and the loss of votes from the sheep kneeling before that altar.

You get the (bigger) picture here.

On a similar note, but going back further in history, the shafting of Noel Browne by an unholy alliance of clerics and doctors. The latter were worse, as they didn't have the excuse of being brainwashed by a fanatical cult. They did it just for professional monetary advantage.

porsche959 · 22-07-2014 1:24am

Seasan wrote: »

Joining the EU.

Come off it.

genuine leather · 22-07-2014 1:28am

Two treatys that were voted against by the irish electorate,
but both got a yes vote after the threats....sorry,disscussion,sorry jellybeans...eh..f n hell democracy my arse

Ranchu · 22-07-2014 2:21am

genuine leather wrote: »

Two treatys that were voted against by the irish electorate,
but both got a yes vote after the threats....sorry,disscussion,sorry jellybeans...eh..f n hell democracy my arse

This is up there for me. Whatever about tragedies inflicted on us by outside forces the circus that surrounded these was proof that there is no real democracy here.

foggy_lad · 22-07-2014 2:36am

The bank guarantee and all those responsible for selling Ireland down the river. The founding of the fianna fail party. The ban on corporal punishment in schools. Removal of the height requirements for entry to the Gardai.

N N Nuther 55 · 22-07-2014 2:39am

the worst event?

Oxegen 2006

too soon?

Sunnyisland · 22-07-2014 2:45am

The widespread sexual abuse of young children and the cover up by the church/goverments and other state institutions.

Rogers830 · 22-07-2014 2:51am

Stardust,any bombings, modern I.R.A, sinn fein. The government, murder of Irish for joining British army the list goes on

thegills · 22-07-2014 3:49am

The murder by the British of our great leaders in 1916. What would Ireland be like now if they lived?

padd b1975 · 22-07-2014 4:31am

The treatment of Bridget McCole and the Hepatitis C scandal.

Nodin · 22-07-2014 4:36am

padd b1975 wrote: »

The treatment of Bridget McCole and the Hepatitis C scandal.

That was Irish Government at it's most cynical true. I remember the inquiry coming out, revealing how the decision had been taken to import the blood product against advice and not bothering to determine the all important "why".

padd b1975 · 22-07-2014 4:51am

Nodin wrote: »

That was Irish Government at it's most cynical true. I remember the inquiry coming out, revealing how the decision had been taken to import the blood product against advice and not bothering to determine the all important "why".

Micheal Noonan is a guy I would generally have some respect for, but his behaviour and attitude towards this woman and her family was nothing short of criminal.

Un Croissant · 22-07-2014 4:55am

thegills wrote: »

The murder by the British of our great leaders in 1916. What would Ireland be like now if they lived?

Probably shíte. Wasn't it the executions of these fellas that gained the whole thing support? So if they had lived....

mikemac1 · 22-07-2014 4:58am

Pamela Izevbekhai and her five legal teams tying up courts for years with endless appeals and leaving behind a bill of hundreds of thousands to be paid by taxpayers

Any sympathy for genuine asylum seekers if any existed or any interest in their process has taken a knock and it may never recover

jank · 22-07-2014 5:37am

Controversatial one but the 1916 rising.

EyeSight · 22-07-2014 5:46am

Not the IMF bailout, but the bare faced lies by the government that it was not happening, while they were organizing it. Criminal!

Various IRA bombings

Michael Collins being murdered

The patient X case causing the death of a woman

mikemac1 · 22-07-2014 5:51am

EyeSight wrote: »

Michael Collins being murdered

A soldier shot by another soldier. It's not really murder, it goes with the job

Zamboni · 22-07-2014 5:52am

The Brian Lenihan bank guarantee has bankrupted the state for multiple generations.
Easily the worst.
People who do not even exist yet will be paying off the debts of failed banking businesses to unknown bond holders.

4Sticks · 22-07-2014 5:53am

jank wrote: »

Controversatial one but the 1916 rising.

Not controversial. Agreed.

comongethappy · 22-07-2014 5:56am

Zamboni wrote: »

The Brian Lenihan bank guarantee has bankrupted the state for multiple generations

Your confusing the guarantee with the bailout.

The guarantee was necessary, didnt cost that much & was recouped from the banks anyway.

For me the worst event was when someone... somewhere decided to hand over the fledgling state to the clutches of the RCC.

Zamboni · 22-07-2014 6:04am

comongethappy wrote: »

Your confusing the guarantee with the bailout.

The guarantee was necessary, didnt cost that much & was recouped from the banks anyway.

No. No it wasn't.

comongethappy · 22-07-2014 6:13am

Zamboni wrote: »

No. No it wasn't.

Deposits were leaving banks at a rate on 1% per week.
A run on deposits was happening & was getting worse.

The government (as did many others) guaranteed the first 100k of deposits....
This guarantee was never called upon & thus never paid out.

The costs were a little over €400 million.... This costs mostly related to re-insuring the guarantees potential liability.

These costs were passed onto the institutions protected by same, there was very little net cost to the state.

..... as per the central bank:

The DGS is administered by the Central Bank of Ireland and is funded by the credit institutions covered by the scheme.

As 'worst events in Irish history' goes, the DGS wouldn't be in the top 1000.

Zamboni · 22-07-2014 6:23am

It was Brian Lenihan's bank guarantee that consequently led to recapitalisation and the IMF program.
The OP asked for the worst event. That single event has led to the downfall of the state.
If you think Lenihan had no choice on the guarantee, fair enough.

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