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What was the worst event in modern Irish history?

  • 22-07-2014 12:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    There has been quite a few but DeValera signing a book of condolence for Hitler and the treatment of those who fight in WW2 when they returned home has got to be up there.

    Also, The Omagh bombing was the most pointless waste of life on this island.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Wasting so much of tax payers money during the boom and ending up where we are now is pretty bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Duff


    Jedward in the Eurovis.. in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭hjkl


    Dublin Monaghan bombings is up there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Sending that turkey puppet to the Eurovision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    The whole Garth Brooks thing


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 ardmhacha22


    When people started to turn anti N.I catholic, my grandfather said it was not like that until recent times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    So many to choose from.

    The Omagh bombing.
    Dublin-Monaghan bombings.
    Buttevant rail crash.
    Stardust tragedy.
    Air India plane crash.
    Aer Lingus Tuskar Rock plane crash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭ch20


    the saipan incident with roy keane in 2002.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    The Stardust Tragedy would always come to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Has to be the economic crash.
    End of the "Celtic Tiger".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 LOEF


    The Omagh bombing.
    How quickly the 6 counties were forgotten by Dublin.
    The continued assistance offered to the US Army via Shannon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    the success of Mrs Brown's boys.
    I heard there's a second film in the pipeline.


    Dear.
    God.
    No.
    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    That auld one climbing a fence & walking on to an active runway while security had to be alerted by her friend who phoned them up

    She's literally Hitler


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Bloody Sunday 1972.

    Not for the number of people killed but the backlash it caused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Probably suningdale not being signed. Lead to many many more deaths for no appreciable benefit over what was initially on the table.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Kilkenny for the 5 in a row.


  • Site Banned Posts: 6 N N Nuther 55


    partition,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    That auld one climbing a fence & walking on to an active runway while security had to be alerted by her friend who phoned them up

    She's literally Hitler

    No way, man. Double Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Norman invasion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭john the one


    Micheal Collins taking a bullet. Its a nice emotional scene in the movie, i cried reading about it in my school history books aswell.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    The X case and the subsuquent failure of successive governments to act on it, which eventually resulted in the death of Savita Halappanavar.

    Simply because our poiticians were too spinless to take ation for fear of the inevitable backlash from the altar and the loss of votes from the sheep kneeling before that altar.



    You get the (bigger) picture here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭An Riabhach


    Joining the EU.

    Siúl leat, siúl leat, le dóchas i do chroí, is ní shiúlfaidh tú i d'aonar go deo.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 ardmhacha22


    partition,

    No it made us see what the southern Irish were really like, they stood back and let the Nationalists get literally butchered in the street.
    It is a division of Irish people that will never heal,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 dobz95


    Omagh bombing & Stardust I'd have to say. Sadly there have been many terrible events in Irish history


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    There has been quite a few but DeValera signing a book of condolence for Hitler and the treatment of those who fight in WW2 when they returned home has got to be up there.

    Also, The Omagh bombing was the most pointless waste of life on this island.

    The ones you've mentioned would be high on my list.

    Also DeValera's pointless, moronic, counter-productive trade war of the 1930s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    The whole Garth Brooks thing

    YEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAWWWWWWWWWW








    I'm agreeing with you btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭john the one


    yeah sorry forgot about the famine which is hands down the worst. defined our history


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Lapin wrote: »
    The X case and the subsuquent failure of successive governments to act on it, which eventually resulted in the death of Savita Halappanavar.

    Simply because our poiticians were too spinless to take ation for fear of the inevitable backlash from the altar and the loss of votes from the sheep kneeling before that altar.



    You get the (bigger) picture here.

    On a similar note, but going back further in history, the shafting of Noel Browne by an unholy alliance of clerics and doctors. The latter were worse, as they didn't have the excuse of being brainwashed by a fanatical cult. They did it just for professional monetary advantage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Seasan wrote: »
    Joining the EU.

    Come off it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    Two treatys that were voted against by the irish electorate,
    but both got a yes vote after the threats....sorry,disscussion,sorry jellybeans...eh..f n hell democracy my arse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Two treatys that were voted against by the irish electorate,
    but both got a yes vote after the threats....sorry,disscussion,sorry jellybeans...eh..f n hell democracy my arse

    This is up there for me. Whatever about tragedies inflicted on us by outside forces the circus that surrounded these was proof that there is no real democracy here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    The bank guarantee and all those responsible for selling Ireland down the river. The founding of the fianna fail party. The ban on corporal punishment in schools. Removal of the height requirements for entry to the Gardai.


  • Site Banned Posts: 6 N N Nuther 55


    the worst event?

    Oxegen 2006








    too soon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    The widespread sexual abuse of young children and the cover up by the church/goverments and other state institutions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Rogers830


    Stardust,any bombings, modern I.R.A, sinn fein. The government, murder of Irish for joining British army the list goes on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭thegills


    The murder by the British of our great leaders in 1916. What would Ireland be like now if they lived?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    The treatment of Bridget McCole and the Hepatitis C scandal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The treatment of Bridget McCole and the Hepatitis C scandal.

    That was Irish Government at it's most cynical true. I remember the inquiry coming out, revealing how the decision had been taken to import the blood product against advice and not bothering to determine the all important "why".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Nodin wrote: »
    That was Irish Government at it's most cynical true. I remember the inquiry coming out, revealing how the decision had been taken to import the blood product against advice and not bothering to determine the all important "why".

    Micheal Noonan is a guy I would generally have some respect for, but his behaviour and attitude towards this woman and her family was nothing short of criminal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    thegills wrote: »
    The murder by the British of our great leaders in 1916. What would Ireland be like now if they lived?

    Probably shíte. Wasn't it the executions of these fellas that gained the whole thing support? So if they had lived....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Pamela Izevbekhai and her five legal teams tying up courts for years with endless appeals and leaving behind a bill of hundreds of thousands to be paid by taxpayers

    Any sympathy for genuine asylum seekers if any existed or any interest in their process has taken a knock and it may never recover


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Controversatial one but the 1916 rising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    Not the IMF bailout, but the bare faced lies by the government that it was not happening, while they were organizing it. Criminal!

    Various IRA bombings

    Michael Collins being murdered

    The patient X case causing the death of a woman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    EyeSight wrote: »
    Michael Collins being murdered

    A soldier shot by another soldier. It's not really murder, it goes with the job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    The Brian Lenihan bank guarantee has bankrupted the state for multiple generations.
    Easily the worst.
    People who do not even exist yet will be paying off the debts of failed banking businesses to unknown bond holders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭4Sticks


    jank wrote: »
    Controversatial one but the 1916 rising.

    Not controversial. Agreed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Zamboni wrote: »
    The Brian Lenihan bank guarantee has bankrupted the state for multiple generations

    Your confusing the guarantee with the bailout.

    The guarantee was necessary, didnt cost that much & was recouped from the banks anyway.

    For me the worst event was when someone... somewhere decided to hand over the fledgling state to the clutches of the RCC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Your confusing the guarantee with the bailout.

    The guarantee was necessary, didnt cost that much & was recouped from the banks anyway.

    No. No it wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Zamboni wrote: »
    No. No it wasn't.

    Deposits were leaving banks at a rate on 1% per week.
    A run on deposits was happening & was getting worse.

    The government (as did many others) guaranteed the first 100k of deposits....
    This guarantee was never called upon & thus never paid out.

    The costs were a little over €400 million.... This costs mostly related to re-insuring the guarantees potential liability.

    These costs were passed onto the institutions protected by same, there was very little net cost to the state.

    ..... as per the central bank:
    The DGS is administered by the Central Bank of Ireland and is funded by the credit institutions covered by the scheme.

    As 'worst events in Irish history' goes, the DGS wouldn't be in the top 1000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    It was Brian Lenihan's bank guarantee that consequently led to recapitalisation and the IMF program.
    The OP asked for the worst event. That single event has led to the downfall of the state.
    If you think Lenihan had no choice on the guarantee, fair enough.


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