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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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  • #1292
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Has that video been verified or anything?

    Something doesn't seem right with it.. everyone just standing there while a guy is repeatedly shot in front of them =/

    They'd be in cover while yer man is exposed. The idea is to draw them out and hit them as they come to the body.


  • #1293
    R P McMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    Nodin wrote: »
    They'd be in cover while yer man is exposed. The idea is to draw them out and hit them as they come to the body.

    Looks like that scene from full metal jacket


  • #1294
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Over 500 dead now.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28399287


  • #1295
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    R P McMurphy wrote: »
    Looks like that scene from full metal jacket


    When Gaza was fully occupied, occasionally they'd impose a 24 hour curfew (no leaving the house) that could last for days. This didn't apply to settlers. This was enforced by snipers, rather than patrols, and quiet literally standing out on the step would be enough to draw fire.

    Now and again they'd decide this wasn't enough fun, so they'd turn off the water and power. As a result, the locals in some areas had trenches running from house to house where possible, to be able to swap and trade supplies. There is footage (which I can't find) of young kids having sneaked out with cannisters , running a gauntlet of rifle fire to get water.

    This 'most moral army' thing is a sort of obscene joke. Whats going on now is classic colonial tactics. The 'natives' have been cheeky, so its been decided to go in hard and take out the leaders, and put some fear in the rest. In the strategic sense this translates to putting pressure on the new Hamas/Fatah joint administration, as Fatah are sitting with their hands in their arse pockets while Hamas get pounded. Rockets are somewhat further down the agenda.


  • #1296
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.


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  • #1297
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    Nodin wrote: »
    When Gaza was fully occupied, occasionally they'd impose a 24 hour curfew (no leaving the house) that could last for days. This didn't apply to settlers. This was enforced by snipers, rather than patrols, and quiet literally standing out on the step would be enough to draw fire.

    Now and again they'd decide this wasn't enough fun, so they'd turn off the water and power. As a result, the locals in some areas had trenches running from house to house where possible, to be able to swap and trade supplies. There is footage (which I can't find) of young kids having sneaked out with cannisters , running a gauntlet of rifle fire to get water.

    This 'most moral army' thing is a sort of obscene joke. Whats going on now is classic colonial tactics. The 'natives' have been cheeky, so its been decided to go in hard and take out the leaders, and put some fear in the rest. In the strategic sense this translates to putting pressure on the new Hamas/Fatah joint administration, as Fatah are sitting with their hands in their arse pockets while Hamas get pounded. Rockets are somewhat further down the agenda.

    Yes, I suppose it is a bit cheeky to launch rockets at your neighbour. Israel should just give them a very hard stare.


  • #1298
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.

    What do you make of the brave IDF butchering the civilian looking for his family in the rubble...why did they do that?..war crime or not?.. What say you...


  • #1299
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    obplayer wrote: »
    Yes, I suppose it is a bit cheeky to launch rockets at your neighbour. Israel should just give them a very hard stare.

    What do you have to say about the IDF butchering a civilian looking for his family in the rubble?.. war crime or not?...


  • #1300
    FullblownRose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Has that video been verified or anything?

    Something doesn't seem right with it.. everyone just standing there while a guy is repeatedly shot in front of them =/

    Pallywood, perhaps.


  • #1301
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    WakeUp wrote: »
    What do you have to say about the IDF butchering a civilian looking for his family in the rubble?.. war crime or not?...

    I'll wait until the video has been checked for a final verdict but if it is true then it should certainly be a court martial offence.


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  • #1302
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    obplayer wrote: »
    I'll wait until the video has been checked for a final verdict but if it is true then it should certainly be a court martial offence.

    What do you mean checked? and checked by whom? do you have eyes?..


  • #1303
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,713 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.
    i think you'l find its the truth

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #1304
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    WakeUp wrote: »
    What do you mean checked? and checked by whom? do you have eyes?..

    Do you have no grasp of modern video editing technology? Do you have no grasp of how the Middle East is as much a propaganda war as a physical war? Have you seen the film Superman and if so do you truly believe a man can fly? I'll wait until the video has been checked by experts, and yes I do have eyes and enough knowledge of modern technology to know they cannot always be trusted.


  • #1305
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jamies15 wrote: »
    I was at a vigil for Gaza in Naas this evening and was fairly sickened to see quite so many people using the opportunity to support Gaza as an opportunity to publicise Sinn Fein instead. There were people with Sinn Fein flags and even people with posters that would say something like 'boycott Israel' and then at the bottom they'd say 'vote Sinn Fein'. I'm not having a go at Sinn Fein, just anybody who spotted an opportunity to support a really good cause as an opportunity to publicise a political party

    Ya know the saying..' In politics, never let a good crisis go to waste..'
    ;)


  • #1306
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    obplayer wrote: »
    Do you have no grasp of modern video editing technology? Do you have no grasp of how the Middle East is as much a propaganda war as a physical war? Have you seen the film Superman and if so do you truly believe a man can fly? I'll wait until the video has been checked by experts, and yes I do have eyes and enough knowledge of modern technology to know they cannot always be trusted.

    Seriously this is your retort? some of you IDF apologists display all the characteristics of a cognitive dissonance nearly beyond comprehension. it's borderline delusional.


  • #1307
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,609 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    FullblownRose wrote: »
    Pallywood, perhaps.

    Maybe.. maybe not.

    I tend to be skeptical about any footage emerging from these conflicts unless they're verified journalistically since both sides are more than capable, and are known for their bull**** propaganda.


  • #1308
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    WakeUp wrote: »
    Seriously this is your retort? some of you IDF apologists display all the characteristics of a cognitive dissonance nearly beyond comprehension. it's borderline delusional.

    Seriously if you cannot respond intelligently to a post then you have problems. Are you saying that it is impossible for that video to have been faked or tampered with, or that the whole area is so law abiding no-one would do such a thing? As for being an IDF apologist I said that if this happened, and it may have, then it is a court martial offence.


  • #1309
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    obplayer wrote: »
    I'll wait to see how the Israelis spin it in such a way that they're not responsible and regurgitate it

    Fixed that for you.


  • #1310
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    obplayer wrote: »
    Seriously if you cannot respond intelligently to a post then you have problems. Are you saying that it is impossible for that video to have been faked or tampered with, or that the whole area is so law abiding no-one would do such a thing? As for being an IDF apologist I said that if this happened, and it may have, then it is a court martial offence.

    Looking at a civilian neighbourhood levelled and in ruins would indicate to me that the IDF cowardly thugs in many instances that they are are capable of anything though your first reaction is "it must be fake". When civilians die in a shelling Akbar did it it's their fault . When a video showing a civilian death emerges it's probably fake. Is levelling a civilian neighbourhood a warcrime in your eyes?..you told me you have them so I'm assuming you can see the destruction.


  • #1311
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.

    Yet you remain very vague about what part is a fairy story....

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/001/2003/en/9fdf4f64-d75f-11dd-b024-21932cd2170d/mde150012003en.html

    https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/27018

    https://libcom.org/library/observations-gaza-s-ur


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  • #1312
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Maybe.. maybe not.

    I tend to be skeptical about any footage emerging from these conflicts unless they're verified journalistically since both sides are more than capable, and are known for their bull**** propaganda.

    Given the number of deaths involving rifle fire of children and UN workers over the years, a man being shot moving through rubble doesn't strike me as remotely implausible, particularily amongst hundreds of dead and the kind of offensive now occurring.


  • #1313
    galwayrush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    One 'Pallywood ' picture of an apparent dead girl in Gaza doing the rounds is actually a still from the movie Final Destination 4.

    edit, it's the scene where a girl gets her head blown off...


  • #1314
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    galwayrush wrote: »
    One 'Pallywood ' picture of an apparent dead girl in Gaza doing the rounds is actually a still from the movie Final Destination 4.


    Did you find evidence that they don't allow women into the shelters in Gaza as per your claim, or did it slip your mind?


  • #1315
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    WakeUp wrote: »
    Looking at a civilian neighbourhood levelled and in ruins would indicate to me that the IDF cowardly thugs in many instances that they are are capable of anything though your first reaction is "it must be fake". When civilians die in a shelling Akbar did it it's their fault . When a video showing a civilian death emerges it's probably fake. Is levelling a civilian neighbourhood a warcrime in your eyes?..you told me you have them so I'm assuming you can see the destruction.

    I said I would wait until it had been checked, I made no statement on the likelihood of it's being fake. Can you not read?
    My final statement is a reminder that this is a war and bad things happen in wars. The only real answer is to not have wars.
    Goodbye and goodnight.


  • #1316
    Sound of Silence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    galwayrush wrote: »
    One 'Pallywood ' picture of an apparent dead girl in Gaza doing the rounds is actually a still from the movie Final Destination 4.

    edit, it's the scene where a girl gets her head blown off...

    Five-Hundred people are still dead, regardless of whether someone posted a screenshot of some crap B-Movie on their Facebook page.


  • #1317
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,713 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    obplayer wrote: »
    Seriously if you cannot respond intelligently to a post then you have problems. Are you saying that it is impossible for that video to have been faked or tampered with, or that the whole area is so law abiding no-one would do such a thing? As for being an IDF apologist I said that if this happened, and it may have, then it is a court martial offence.
    no, its a war crime/crimeagainst humanity

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #1318
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,609 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Nodin wrote: »
    Given the number of deaths involving rifle fire of children and UN workers over the years, a man being shot moving through rubble doesn't strike me as remotely implausible, particularily amongst hundreds of dead and the kind of offensive now occurring.

    I don't dispute that it's plausible. I'm just wondering if any credible news source has reported or confirmed it..


  • #1319
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    The one thing that annoys me (aside from the complete disregard for human life) is that Israel come up with these excuses such as 'the threat was in this building, it's unfortunate that civilians die' and it's seemingly accepted by those in the UN/US who standby and take it. They shelled a hospital for christs sake. How is that acceptable?

    The only end game here I see is that Israel completely level Gaza and murder a massive amount of those left in Gaza. It's the equivalent of having a bear in a cramped cage and the Israelis are pummeling it to death.


  • #1320
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    tayto lover wrote: »
    So the Israelis continue to murder daily and still no outcry from the U.N. or U.S.

    The IDF can target and murder the children & civilians of Gaza with impunity. And not a peep. 4 boys aged 9, 10 (2) and 11 years of age, are blown to pieces in broad daylight on a beach by an Israeli gunboat. A gunboat that possess the best in digital zoom technology, thermal imaging and surveillance equipment. Then we had 5 killed earlier today and 70 were wounded, when Israeli tanks fired 12 shells into a Hospital Intensive care unit, surgery department and administration building. The Merkava main battle tank has some of the most sophisticated target acquisition technology. Yet they still blast 12 tank shells into a hospital. It's the kind of unabated murderous rampage that a Einsatzgruppen would be proud of. Human Rights groups and likes of Amnesty International might condemn the IDF and speak of war crimes. But as long as they have the support of the biggest bully in the playground - America. The Israeli regime and their IDF war dogs, don't particularly give a fúck about what the rest of the civilised world thinks and they never have. 550 dead and 3300 + injured and as Jon Snow on Channel 4 News said - "What price in civilian blood must Israel extract, before they cease the killing of civilians?"


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  • #1321
    Tilikum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Tilikum


    Did I just hear the news right?

    2 Israeli dead

    Over 500 Palestinians dead??


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