Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

My name is URL wrote: »

Has that video been verified or anything?

Something doesn't seem right with it.. everyone just standing there while a guy is repeatedly shot in front of them =/

They'd be in cover while yer man is exposed. The idea is to draw them out and hit them as they come to the body.

R P McMurphy

Nodin wrote: »

They'd be in cover while yer man is exposed. The idea is to draw them out and hit them as they come to the body.

Looks like that scene from full metal jacket

Over 500 dead now.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28399287

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Looks like that scene from full metal jacket

When Gaza was fully occupied, occasionally they'd impose a 24 hour curfew (no leaving the house) that could last for days. This didn't apply to settlers. This was enforced by snipers, rather than patrols, and quiet literally standing out on the step would be enough to draw fire.

Now and again they'd decide this wasn't enough fun, so they'd turn off the water and power. As a result, the locals in some areas had trenches running from house to house where possible, to be able to swap and trade supplies. There is footage (which I can't find) of young kids having sneaked out with cannisters , running a gauntlet of rifle fire to get water.

This 'most moral army' thing is a sort of obscene joke. Whats going on now is classic colonial tactics. The 'natives' have been cheeky, so its been decided to go in hard and take out the leaders, and put some fear in the rest. In the strategic sense this translates to putting pressure on the new Hamas/Fatah joint administration, as Fatah are sitting with their hands in their arse pockets while Hamas get pounded. Rockets are somewhat further down the agenda.

BlaasForRafa

I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.

Nodin wrote: »

When Gaza was fully occupied, occasionally they'd impose a 24 hour curfew (no leaving the house) that could last for days. This didn't apply to settlers. This was enforced by snipers, rather than patrols, and quiet literally standing out on the step would be enough to draw fire.

Now and again they'd decide this wasn't enough fun, so they'd turn off the water and power. As a result, the locals in some areas had trenches running from house to house where possible, to be able to swap and trade supplies. There is footage (which I can't find) of young kids having sneaked out with cannisters , running a gauntlet of rifle fire to get water.

This 'most moral army' thing is a sort of obscene joke. Whats going on now is classic colonial tactics. The 'natives' have been cheeky, so its been decided to go in hard and take out the leaders, and put some fear in the rest. In the strategic sense this translates to putting pressure on the new Hamas/Fatah joint administration, as Fatah are sitting with their hands in their arse pockets while Hamas get pounded. Rockets are somewhat further down the agenda.

Yes, I suppose it is a bit cheeky to launch rockets at your neighbour. Israel should just give them a very hard stare.

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.

What do you make of the brave IDF butchering the civilian looking for his family in the rubble...why did they do that?..war crime or not?.. What say you...

obplayer wrote: »

Yes, I suppose it is a bit cheeky to launch rockets at your neighbour. Israel should just give them a very hard stare.

What do you have to say about the IDF butchering a civilian looking for his family in the rubble?.. war crime or not?...

FullblownRose

My name is URL wrote: »

Has that video been verified or anything?

Something doesn't seem right with it.. everyone just standing there while a guy is repeatedly shot in front of them =/

Pallywood, perhaps.

WakeUp wrote: »

What do you have to say about the IDF butchering a civilian looking for his family in the rubble?.. war crime or not?...

I'll wait until the video has been checked for a final verdict but if it is true then it should certainly be a court martial offence.

obplayer wrote: »

I'll wait until the video has been checked for a final verdict but if it is true then it should certainly be a court martial offence.

What do you mean checked? and checked by whom? do you have eyes?..

end of the road

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.

i think you'l find its the truth

WakeUp wrote: »

What do you mean checked? and checked by whom? do you have eyes?..

Do you have no grasp of modern video editing technology? Do you have no grasp of how the Middle East is as much a propaganda war as a physical war? Have you seen the film Superman and if so do you truly believe a man can fly? I'll wait until the video has been checked by experts, and yes I do have eyes and enough knowledge of modern technology to know they cannot always be trusted.

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Jamies15 wrote: »

I was at a vigil for Gaza in Naas this evening and was fairly sickened to see quite so many people using the opportunity to support Gaza as an opportunity to publicise Sinn Fein instead. There were people with Sinn Fein flags and even people with posters that would say something like 'boycott Israel' and then at the bottom they'd say 'vote Sinn Fein'. I'm not having a go at Sinn Fein, just anybody who spotted an opportunity to support a really good cause as an opportunity to publicise a political party

Ya know the saying..' In politics, never let a good crisis go to waste..'

obplayer wrote: »

Do you have no grasp of modern video editing technology? Do you have no grasp of how the Middle East is as much a propaganda war as a physical war? Have you seen the film Superman and if so do you truly believe a man can fly? I'll wait until the video has been checked by experts, and yes I do have eyes and enough knowledge of modern technology to know they cannot always be trusted.

Seriously this is your retort? some of you IDF apologists display all the characteristics of a cognitive dissonance nearly beyond comprehension. it's borderline delusional.

My name is URL

FullblownRose wrote: »

Pallywood, perhaps.

Maybe.. maybe not.

I tend to be skeptical about any footage emerging from these conflicts unless they're verified journalistically since both sides are more than capable, and are known for their bull**** propaganda.

WakeUp wrote: »

Seriously this is your retort? some of you IDF apologists display all the characteristics of a cognitive dissonance nearly beyond comprehension. it's borderline delusional.

Seriously if you cannot respond intelligently to a post then you have problems. Are you saying that it is impossible for that video to have been faked or tampered with, or that the whole area is so law abiding no-one would do such a thing? As for being an IDF apologist I said that if this happened, and it may have, then it is a court martial offence.

Karl Stein

obplayer wrote: »

I'll wait to see how the Israelis spin it in such a way that they're not responsible and regurgitate it

Fixed that for you.

obplayer wrote: »

Seriously if you cannot respond intelligently to a post then you have problems. Are you saying that it is impossible for that video to have been faked or tampered with, or that the whole area is so law abiding no-one would do such a thing? As for being an IDF apologist I said that if this happened, and it may have, then it is a court martial offence.

Looking at a civilian neighbourhood levelled and in ruins would indicate to me that the IDF cowardly thugs in many instances that they are are capable of anything though your first reaction is "it must be fake". When civilians die in a shelling Akbar did it it's their fault . When a video showing a civilian death emerges it's probably fake. Is levelling a civilian neighbourhood a warcrime in your eyes?..you told me you have them so I'm assuming you can see the destruction.

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I see it's Nodin's fairy story time again.

Yet you remain very vague about what part is a fairy story....

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/001/2003/en/9fdf4f64-d75f-11dd-b024-21932cd2170d/mde150012003en.html

https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/27018

https://libcom.org/library/observations-gaza-s-ur

My name is URL wrote: »

Maybe.. maybe not.

I tend to be skeptical about any footage emerging from these conflicts unless they're verified journalistically since both sides are more than capable, and are known for their bull**** propaganda.

Given the number of deaths involving rifle fire of children and UN workers over the years, a man being shot moving through rubble doesn't strike me as remotely implausible, particularily amongst hundreds of dead and the kind of offensive now occurring.

galwayrush

One 'Pallywood ' picture of an apparent dead girl in Gaza doing the rounds is actually a still from the movie Final Destination 4.

edit, it's the scene where a girl gets her head blown off...

galwayrush wrote: »

One 'Pallywood ' picture of an apparent dead girl in Gaza doing the rounds is actually a still from the movie Final Destination 4.

Did you find evidence that they don't allow women into the shelters in Gaza as per your claim, or did it slip your mind?