Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

beakerjoe · 17-07-2014 03:58PM

RobertKK wrote: »

LVG also takes personalities into account.

Guess that is bye bye Zaha.

Rooney too :pac::pac::pac:

redbaron_99 · 17-07-2014 04:02PM

interesting quote about Rooney, all right. Will try not to read too much into that though.

On the Carrick injury, I think we simply have to go out and get another CM now. They're saying 10 weeks, but the guy is 33 (?), and at that age it can take longer to get back to fitness.

Maximus Alexander · 17-07-2014 04:08PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

Rooney too :pac::pac::pac:

He did seem to completely dodge the question on Rooney.

Seriously, he was all "You asked about Rooney, but Carrick will be a big loss..."

Zico · 17-07-2014 04:31PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

He did seem to completely dodge the question on Rooney.

Seriously, he was all "You asked about Rooney, but Carrick will be a big loss..."

He was asked if RVP was a candidate for the capataincy and he didn't even mention him in his response.

What does that mean do you think?

Eh?

Hmmm?

Liam McPoyle · 17-07-2014 04:31PM

Swap Rooney for Cavani anyone?

At least they will pay him what ever he wants and it would be rid of an influence that isn't needed.

v3ttel · 17-07-2014 04:33PM

ToiletFusion wrote: »

Hardly unbelievable... the whole plane thing was farcical

A few idiots pool together to fly a banner over the ground (which was actually booed, and you could hear "You can stick your f*cking banner up your arse" as it flew over), and you focus on that. Typical.

If you some the posters here won a million and lost a tenner, they'd prefer to bitch about the tenner.

0-3 to Liverpool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esuu1tJLtFc

Stoke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwVQrgiqmec

Sunderland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvYa-a-Uwmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kxuoFEBWuo

Fulham:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FaQhuJJXSo

And you'll notice that in every video bar the first one, it's all support for a struggling manager. The fans last year were unbelievable.

redbaron_99 · 17-07-2014 04:34PM

Business Cat wrote: »

Swap Rooney for Cavani anyone?

At least they will pay him what ever he wants and it would be rid of an influence that isn't needed.

Rooney is a better player than Cavani. He was also one of the few that looked like he gave a damn last season.

Too many people read the British tabloids.

Maximus Alexander · 17-07-2014 04:34PM

Zico wrote: »

He was asked if RVP was a candidate for the capataincy and he didn't even mention him in his response.

What does that mean do you think?

Eh?

Hmmm?

RVP out tbh.

Pro. F · 17-07-2014 04:37PM

Business Cat wrote: »

Swap Rooney for Cavani anyone?

At least they will pay him what ever he wants and it would be rid of an influence that isn't needed.

Will Cavani be a better 10 than Mata? Will Cavani be happy to sit on the bench? Will he be happy to play on the wing? Is Cavani any more likely than Rooney to be able to be developed into a central midfielder?

Cavani would have the exact same problems at United as Rooney if they were swapped.

Quandary · 17-07-2014 04:57PM

I hope we don't sign Cavani. We don't need him and the funds should all be ploughed into signing a new midfielder and new centre back, in that order.

17-07-2014 05:04PM

Just got to see the press conference there, my cheeks (facial ones!) are actually a little achy from grinning like a cheshire cat for 22 minutes straight.

I love his conciseness, he addressed every question without giving too much away. He commands respect and attention, with every person in that room hanging on his every word. That's what we need the manager of Manchester United to be like.

David McDonnell got off lightly there compared to Louis' previous reactions to 'stupid questions'. I really can't wait for Jeff Shreeves to get chopped down by our new manager!

On the injury of Carrick, that is a worry. No doubt it could have a silver lining in that it will push us more to sign another CM, but out of all the MFs currently available in the squad, Carrick would be the best back-up option to Herrera and any new additions.

Last season I was in the 'give him time' camp in relation to Fellaini, but having not improved towards the end of the season and subsequently not shining for the national side in the W.C., I now have serious doubts about his ability/future at the club. I'd still like to see him given time with the new manager, see if Louis can bring him back to form, but I'm not too confident.

Even without the Carrick injury, we badly need a strong CM signing. Now, with the Carrick injury and the fact that it has come late in his career, we need 2 immediate CM signings IMO. Also we need back-up at LB for Shaw (if Evra is in fact gone, is he??) and a strong CB signing. Hopefully most if not all of these will come in the next few weeks.

Above all else though, irrespective of more signings, I have full confidence in LVG and am sure that we will fare better next season with him at the helm.

Hank Scorpio · 17-07-2014 05:27PM

Found the Rooney dodge interesting, those 20 minutes just flew by watching it. I do believe he`ll get another another couple of players in before the window closes

Bleating Lamb · 17-07-2014 05:28PM

Has a figure been released for Toni Kroos move to Real?...Impression seemed to be he wasn't going to go anywhere....hope we made some kind of effort to sound him out behind the scenes.

yermandan · 17-07-2014 05:29PM

24 million

Adamocovic · 17-07-2014 05:31PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Has a figure been released for Toni Kroos move to Real?...Impression seemed to be he wasn't going to go anywhere....hope we made some kind of effort to sound him out behind the scenes.

Think the fee was £24 million, I'd say the move had been agreed before the world cup had ever began and he just decided to wait until he was finished with the national side to finalise it.

Mickeroo · 17-07-2014 05:32PM

It's been widely accepted Kroos was joining Real since before the World Cup I thought?

yermandan · 17-07-2014 05:32PM

Rayne Wooney · 17-07-2014 05:38PM

I thought the questions weren't great but they were probably told not to ask him probing questions on his first day. He mentioned that Ander and Shaw were on the list and I was hoping someone would ask who else is on it to see his reaction

Didn't pick up on the Rooney dodge first time around but it was probably accidental, strange that he was asked about Rooney and changed it straight to Carrick though

KH25 · 17-07-2014 05:57PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I thought the questions weren't great but they were probably told not to ask him probing questions on his first day. He mentioned that Ander and Shaw were on the list and I was hoping someone would ask who else is on it to see his reaction

Didn't pick up on the Rooney dodge first time around but it was probably accidental, strange that he was asked about Rooney and changed it straight to Carrick though

Honestly I don't read that much into it. All he was saying was experience counts for very little at times in his mind. He quite possibly dodged making comment on Rooney because the media would run with it all day long.

grames_bond · 17-07-2014 05:58PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Didn't pick up on the Rooney dodge first time around but it was probably accidental, strange that he was asked about Rooney and changed it straight to Carrick though

Maybe it was just because he wanted to inform people Carrick was injured and found that a good opportunity!

Adamocovic · 17-07-2014 06:48PM

Wonder who hell pick as captain, thought it would be Rooney, but ya never know who will get it. Bookies and paper seem to just be saying RVP due to their relationship in the international scene but surely Rooney and Carrick would be favourites would they not?

DARK-KNIGHT · 17-07-2014 06:51PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Wonder who hell pick as captain, thought it would be Rooney, but ya never know who will get it. Bookies and paper seem to just be saying RVP due to their relationship in the international scene but surely Rooney and Carrick would be favourites would they not?

he could pick rvp or throw a curveball and pick mata seeing as he is our best player imo

OctavarIan · 17-07-2014 06:53PM

I wonder with Van Gaal saying no new players for a few weeks until he's seen the squad try his 'philosophy' will the rumour mill die down a bit. Probably not.

Zico · 17-07-2014 06:55PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

he could pick rvp or throw a curveball and pick mata seeing as he is our best player imo

:eek:

If he's our best player, then we're in deeper sh1t than I thought.

Adamocovic · 17-07-2014 06:55PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

he could pick rvp or throw a curveball and pick mata seeing as he is our best player imo

I dunno I imagine Giggs will have a big say on who should be captain. He will obviously be telling VG who he thinks it should be and I would guess his suggestion would be one of the lads who have been there for a good bit of time. Fletcher, Rooney and Carrick for example.

RVP is a great player and no doubt respected by the team, but if he was selected captain would some of the player who were there for longer get annoyed that they were overlooked? I think Rooney fully expects it.

Would love to see De Gea get the captain role in the future (not now though). Maybe I'm old school in the way I prefer the captain to be a GK, DEF or MID rather than an attacker.

Adamocovic · 17-07-2014 06:56PM

OctavarIan wrote: »

I wonder with Van Gaal saying no new players for a few weeks until he's seen the squad try his 'philosophy' will the rumour mill die down a bit. Probably not.

It will make it even worse in my opinion ha. When we don't seem to be making any real attempts at signing people the papers seem to throw out any rumour at all to keep selling papers. Well be linked with some bizarre signings no doubt!

Vic Vinegar · 17-07-2014 06:58PM

OctavarIan wrote: »

I wonder with Van Gaal saying no new players for a few weeks until he's seen the squad try his 'philosophy' will the rumour mill die down a bit. Probably not.

Not at all i reckon, they still have column inches to fill and a lot of them don't care how they do it.

beno619 · 17-07-2014 07:01PM

Evans is the only player I can think of that has actually displayed proper leadership qualities, he's very vocal and would get my vote.

Adamocovic · 17-07-2014 07:04PM

beno619 wrote: »

Evans is the only player I can think of that has actually displayed proper leadership qualities, he's very vocal and would get my vote.

Very true, and he came through the youths didnt he? I imagine he will be starting centre back and will be either helping a new signing adapt (hopefully hummels :P) or help along a relatively inexperienced player (hoping Jones gets a run at CB).

Evans would be a good option for captain indeed!

DARK-KNIGHT · 17-07-2014 07:06PM

Zico wrote: »

:eek:

If he's our best player, then we're in deeper sh1t than I thought.

are you for real? Juan mata is world class

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