Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

end of the road · 15-07-2014 10:55AM

wes wrote: »

Well, if you look at his earlier posts, he was calling for the removal of the Palestinians, so I wouldn't expect much.

well what would you expect from someone who tells someone to "go plant a bomb in a bin"

keano_afc · 15-07-2014 10:57AM

Israel has held fire since 9am. In that time, 35 rockets have been fired at them, including one as far forward as Tel Aviv. Would be interested to know from the pro-Palestine lobby here how they think Israel should respond?

intellectual dosser · 15-07-2014 10:59AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Israel has kicked their asses again and again and again and will kick their ass again next time.

Keep attacking Israel and they will get their ass kicked.

Stop attacking Israel and everything will be great.

Their call!:)

What you say sounds so black and white - it makes perfect sense.

Except you left out the settlements - whats your thoughts there?

Process:
1. Peace.
2. New Israeli Settlements.
3. Hamas attacks.
4. Israeli retribution.
5. Return to step 1.

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:01AM

Playboy wrote: »

Not sure if you understand my question. I didn't ask why you hate them? I asked you why do you think Hamas hates the Jews?

Why do keep talking about ass kicking as if this were a playground brawl? Nobody is getting a bruised backside, children are being murdered. This isn't something to joke about, have you no moral compass at all?

They hate them because they are Jew hating Muslim wackjobs.

Have you the Muslim hadiths?

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:03AM

keano_afc wrote: »

Israel has held fire since 9am. In that time, 35 rockets have been fired at them, including one as far forward as Tel Aviv. Would be interested to know from the pro-Palestine lobby here how they think Israel should respond?

Hamas have their chance. Too bad.

FTA69 · 15-07-2014 11:03AM

keano_afc wrote: »

Israel has held fire since 9am. In that time, 35 rockets have been fired at them, including one as far forward as Tel Aviv. Would be interested to know from the pro-Palestine lobby here how they think Israel should respond?

Israel could respond by engaging the Palestinians in negotiation with the view to establishing a Palestinian state. They could stop stealing chunks of the West Bank on a weekly basis as well stealing all the water there to furnish illegal settlements. They could also end the system of apartheid in East Jerusalem and acknowledge it as the Palestinian capital.

The paltry rocket fire coming from Gaza is a symptom of a much deeper-seated problem which stems from Israeli colonialism, it isn't the cause of the conflict there.

davmol · 15-07-2014 11:05AM

keano_afc wrote: »

Israel has held fire since 9am. In that time, 35 rockets have been fired at them, including one as far forward as Tel Aviv. Would be interested to know from the pro-Palestine lobby here how they think Israel should respond?

Very easy to hold fire when you have slaughtered 200.80% civilians and nearly 40 children.They will be slapping each other ont eh back in the Knesset.

Very easy to hold fire when your blood lust has been satisfied for a few weeks.Easy too when you have njured 2000 of the people you want to wipe from teh planet and when you have caused hundreds of million of dollars damage to the peope you detest.VERY easy.

end of the road · 15-07-2014 11:06AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

An 8 year old Israeli boy was wounded by a Hamas rocket which hit Ashdod.

so thats grand then, israel must kill as many people in revenge for it, 100 palestinians for every israely or something like that.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Hamas has been indiscriminately firing rockets all over Israel and trying to kill as many Israeli civilians has they possibly can.

and israel do the exact same thing back 4 times as much yet whine about terrorism

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Stop firing missiles and rockets at Israel and the IDF will not be forced to blow up Hamas rockets and blow up Hamas terrorists and civilians who they use as human shields will not be killed.

i'l explain it again, the IDF are not "forced" to do anything, this is about removing the arab population from gaza and eventually the west bank, even if no rockets were being fired indiscriminate bombing of gaza will happen, but you just keep making excuses for israel when really they are a lot worse with their actions.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

So to sum up?
STOP ATTACKING ISRAEL! ISRAEL WILL KICK YOUR ASS EVERY TIME YOU DO!

and even when you don't, as they don't want you in the territory they want to clame for the jewish state.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Hamas have once again has their asses handed to them and they still won't learn?

thats what happens when you heard people into an open air prison like cattle with nothing, they get so sick of the aggressers and occupiers that they end up commiting actions they shouldn't, more or less the same thing as happened in other occupied territories all though the weapons are different.

wes · 15-07-2014 11:06AM

keano_afc wrote: »

Israel has held fire since 9am. In that time, 35 rockets have been fired at them, including one as far forward as Tel Aviv. Would be interested to know from the pro-Palestine lobby here how they think Israel should respond?

Well maybe next time, don't deliberately break the cease fire in the first place, maybe?

Regardless, Hamas firing on Israel completely wrong, doubly so, when Israel has stopped firing. Hopefully Hamas are not complete fools, and will put a stop to the rockets asap. It should be noted that Israel will expand settlements regardless, and are still holding 100s of Hamas members (that Israel release earlier) for something Hamas didn't do, and not to mention the continued siege.

Tony EH · 15-07-2014 11:08AM

keano_afc wrote: »

Israel has held fire since 9am. In that time, 35 rockets have been fired at them, including one as far forward as Tel Aviv. Would be interested to know from the pro-Palestine lobby here how they think Israel should respond?

With the required proportion perhaps.

That might be a good start.

brimal · 15-07-2014 11:10AM

davmol wrote: »

... and slowly becoming one ofthe most detested races on teh planet?(not my words)

Then who's words are they?

Sources please.

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:13AM

end of the road wrote: »

so thats grand then, israel must kill as many people in revenge for it, 100 palestinians for every israely or something like that.

Stop firing rockets then.

and israel do the exact same thing back 4 times as much yet whine about terrorism

Stop firing rockets at Israel and then Israel will not whine about terrorism and Gaza won't get smashed every few years.

i know your thick, but i'l explain it again, the IDF are not "forced" to do anything, this is about removing the arab population from gaza and eventually the west bank, even if no rockets were being fired indiscriminate bombing of gaza will happen, but you just keep making excuses for israel when really they are a lot worse with their actions

Israel withdrew soldiers and settlers from Gaza in 2005 and the rockets have been fired continuously by Hamas for 9 years.

The Gazans had their chance to be free and prosperous but they chose terror and attacks on Israel.

Boohoo!

and even when you don't, as they don't want you in the territory they want to clame for the jewish state.

Oh yes. And I suppose Jews control the banks and Hollywood and the Oscars yada yada yada?

thats what happens when you heard people into an open air prison like cattle with nothing, they get so sick of the aggressers and occupiers that they end up commiting actions they shouldn't, more or less the same thing as happened in other occupied territories all though the weapons are different.

They choose to live in Gaza, they choose to hate Israel, they choose to fire rockets and they choose to get their ass kicked.
Don't blame Israel.
Blame Hamas and the Palestinians who support them.
They want to swim in squalor and misery and they are welcome to it.

intellectual dosser · 15-07-2014 11:17AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

They choose to live in Gaza, they choose to hate Israel, they choose to fire rockets and they choose to get their ass kicked.
Don't blame Israel.
Blame Hamas and the Palestinians who support them.
They want to swim in squalor and misery and they are welcome to it.

I asked about Israeli settlements a few posts ago, would really like to know your opinion on the topic.

end of the road · 15-07-2014 11:20AM

Israel has kicked their asses again and again and again and will kick their ass again next time.

Keep attacking Israel and they will get their ass kicked.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Stop attacking Israel and everything will be great.

yeah, we have a delusianel individual here

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:24AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I asked about Israeli settlements a few posts ago, would really like to know your opinion on the topic.

I don't support the settlements. Ideally there would be peace and everyone would get on but the Palestinians have no shown no interest in peace. The only option left is to remove one or the other population from the region.
The Jews have no interest in taking some virgin territory in Arizona or Colorado or some place they can create a Jewish state and build another temple and carry on.
They have guns and nukes and the settlers - hundreds of thousands of them are armed to the teeth and they will fight any attempt to remove them.
So the only option left if Palestinians cannot agree to live side by side with Jews in peace and harmony is to encourage them to leave and live in Arab countries.
It may take bloodshed to get them to go but what alternative is there if all other options prove unrealistic?
Egypt should take in the population of Gaza and settle this for once and for all.
I think that is only fair.
If the alternative is bloodshed well then let's go on with it then.
This conflict has gone on for too long.

davmol · 15-07-2014 11:24AM

brimal wrote: »

Then who's words are they?

Sources please.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/143487/academic-anti-semitism

http://www.realclearworld.com/2012/03/29/why_does_world_hate_israel_so_much_134338.html

http://www.thetoptens.com/most-hated-countries/israel-232444.asp

use google mate,i could paste about 100 other sites.

wes · 15-07-2014 11:25AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Stop firing rockets then.

Stop firing rockets at Israel and then Israel will not whine about terrorism and Gaza won't get smashed every few years.

Israel broke the recent ceasefire, not Hamas. I agree they need to stop there rockets, just as Israel should release the people the arrested for something they didn't do, and end all settlement expansion, and end the siege on Gaza, and allow in Humanitarian supplies.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Israel withdrew soldiers and settlers from Gaza in 2005 and the rockets have been fired continuously by Hamas for 9 years.

Rockets have not been fired by Hamas continuously for the last 9 years, the most recent ceasefire was largely respected by both sides.

Secondly, Israel grabbed a bunch of land in the West Bank right after removing the Gaza settlements. Its an unfortunate fact that you predictably neglect.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

The Gazans had their chance to be free and prosperous but they chose terror and attacks on Israel.

Boohoo!

The Gazan most certainly choose that, and again with the 5 year old level of debate.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Oh yes. And I suppose Jews control the banks and Hollywood and the Oscars yada yada yada?

No one making that claim from what I can see. Wait weren't you the guy who was calling for the removal of all the Palestinians.......

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

They choose to live in Gaza,

No most are actually refugee's from what is today called Israel, they had no choice in the matter, when Zionist militia's forced them from there homes, in some cases, literally driving them into the sea, where they had to flee via boat to Gaza. Secondly, they can't leave, what with there being a well documented siege.

So again you talking utter nonsense, and making stuff up.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

they choose to hate Israel,

If you imprison people in a open air prison, some of them won't be happy about that. I don't see much choice there really. Still that hardly describes everyone.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

they choose to fire rockets and they choose to get their ass kicked.

Yes, Hamas did choose to retaliate with rockets, when Israel broke the ceasefire, when they started arresting there members for something they didn't do, and that Israel know they didn't do. 2 sides to the story there.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Don't blame Israel.

Netanyahu broke the ceasefire, knowing full well Hamas was not responsible for the kidnap and murder of the 3 settler teenagers. So, yes the blame is most certainly on him. It should also be noted just before that Israel killed 2 Palestinians teenagers, before that happened. Its not like Israel ever stops with violence on there side or anything.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Blame Hamas and the Palestinians who support them.
They want to swim in squalor and misery and they are welcome to it.

So nice of you to say, but then you are the guy who wants them all removed, so no surprise there.

end of the road · 15-07-2014 11:27AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Stop firing rockets then.

Stop firing rockets at Israel and then Israel will not whine about terrorism and Gaza won't get smashed every few years.

Israel withdrew soldiers and settlers from Gaza in 2005 and the rockets have been fired continuously by Hamas for 9 years.

The Gazans had their chance to be free and prosperous but they chose terror and attacks on Israel.

Boohoo!

Oh yes. And I suppose Jews control the banks and Hollywood and the Oscars yada yada yada?

They choose to live in Gaza, they choose to hate Israel, they choose to fire rockets and they choose to get their ass kicked.
Don't blame Israel.
Blame Hamas and the Palestinians who support them.
They want to swim in squalor and misery and they are welcome to it.

definitely an extremist, israel will bomb gaza every so often regardless, end of

intellectual dosser · 15-07-2014 11:30AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

I don't support the settlements. Ideally there would be peace and everyone would get on but the Palestinians have no shown no interest in peace. The only option left is to remove one or the other population from the region.
The Jews have no interest in taking some virgin territory in Arizona or Colorado or some place they can create a Jewish state and build another temple and carry on.
They have guns and nukes and the settlers - hundreds of thousands of them are armed to the teeth and they will fight any attempt to remove them.
So the only option left if Palestinians cannot agree to live side by side with Jews in peace and harmony is to encourage them to leave and live in Arab countries.
It may take bloodshed to get them to go but what alternative is there if all other options prove unrealistic?
Egypt should take in the population of Gaza and settle this for once and for all.
I think that is only fair.
If the alternative is bloodshed well then let's go on with it then.
This conflict has gone on for too long.

My usual stance on this long standing conflict is that Israel should take the high road. They have incredible resources and wealth, they have a lot of western support and largely have no need for violence and war. They have the resources, they should not be listing Palestinian children as collateral damage.

These recent events have swayed me, I recognize Israel's absolute right to defend themselves and seek vengeance for attacks, against those responsible, but I still hold them responsible overall. They have the means to put it right.

As for your post above, oh dear.

end of the road · 15-07-2014 11:30AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

I don't support the settlements. Ideally there would be peace and everyone would get on but the Palestinians have no shown no interest in peace. The only option left is to remove one or the other population from the region.
The Jews have no interest in taking some virgin territory in Arizona or Colorado or some place they can create a Jewish state and build another temple and carry on.
They have guns and nukes and the settlers - hundreds of thousands of them are armed to the teeth and they will fight any attempt to remove them.
So the only option left if Palestinians cannot agree to live side by side with Jews in peace and harmony is to encourage them to leave and live in Arab countries.
It may take bloodshed to get them to go but what alternative is there if all other options prove unrealistic?
Egypt should take in the population of Gaza and settle this for once and for all.
I think that is only fair.
If the alternative is bloodshed well then let's go on with it then.
This conflict has gone on for too long.

yeah, a dangerous extremist we have here, you do know america could and would destroy israel if they were ever to become a threat? doesn't matter how armed to the teeth the israely population are, difference between me and you, i wouldn't support it, nor the removal of the palestinian population who have as much right to be there

davmol · 15-07-2014 11:31AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

If the alternative is bloodshed well then let's go on with it then.
This conflict has gone on for too long.

You do realise israel is surrounded by ARab countries like Saudi arabia,Qatar and if an all out war broke out the Muslim countries would side with Palestine as they do now.
Remeber if you call a holy war against the muslims,a Jihad,this may be answered by other muslim countries ie Pakistan who also have nukes.At least it hink thats what your getting at with your statement.

and ,how brave are you ,"lets get on with the war",when your adversary have no serious weapoary,no airforce,no navy,no nukes.I wonder would you have the same attitude goign up against someone,one of the many countries,that would annhilate Israel

old hippy · 15-07-2014 11:32AM

KindOfIrish wrote: »

Pro Palestinian people is the same type of people who take part in "Shell to sea", Animal Rights, Greenpeace and other modern sects that works as a substitute for extreme forms of religion.

And we grow our own sandals, too. :rolleyes:

The Aussie wrote: »

You forgot the trespassing joke that was the Occupy fiasco...

Obfuscation.

Rightwing wrote: »

At the end of the day, no one gives a sh!t about these arabs. That's the unfortunate reality. Law of the Jungle out there.

I think you'll find there's plenty of us who care. If we polled, I'd say the majority of us on boards care.

Red Nissan wrote: »

The Israelis are the fifth crusade, maybe sixth, we need to support them or we will be fighting in the streets and being bombed ourselves in another 20 ~ 30 years.

I'll mention that to my Muslim neighbours, just so they are aware when it's all going down :rolleyes:

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Allahu snackbar!

Yes, you made a similar comment elsewhere on boards. Your prejudice is shining through.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

Boo hoo! Poor widdle Islamic extremists getting their asses handed to them yet again? Awww!

Ugly, twisted sentiment.

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

They hate them because they are Jew hating Muslim wackjobs.

Have you the Muslim hadiths?

You've probably used that epithet a hundred times now, it doesn't make it any truer.

I'm going to ask you yet again; do you know any Palestinians?

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:34AM

end of the road wrote: »

definitely an extremist, israel will bomb gaza every so often regardless, end of

If Palestinians stop firing rockets then the bombing will stop. It's quite simple to understand. If they can demonstrate they can live alongside Jews without trouble then there can be talks and any issues can be discussed e.g. the Temple Mount, water, land, the right of return, settlements etc etc etc.

But I don't live in a fantasy world.

The Palestinians hate Israel and want to destroy and conquer it. They make no secret about their wish to murder all the Jews and to create an Islamic Caliphate.

As long as Palestinians hold fast to their nihilistic ideology of hate then a single state solution or a two state solution are impossible. They are making them impossible by their blind religious extremism and stupidity.

As I said before the Jews are not going anywhere, they are armed with nukes and guns and they have been attacked and killed by the Palestinians for 70 years. Can you blame Israelis was expanding settlements and ejecting the Palestinians?

Eventually the Palestinians will have no option but to clear out such is the squalor and misery they live in. But it need not have been this way. They could have agreed to two-states way way back in 1948. Too late now.

They have demonstrated generation after generation their utter stupidity and hatred and fanaticism. Tragic but all unavoidable. The Israelis patience is not finite. Firing rockets at them and the Jewish people will kick your ass.

Tony EH · 15-07-2014 11:35AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

I don't support the settlements. Ideally there would be peace and everyone would get on but the Palestinians have no shown no interest in peace. The only option left is to remove one or the other population from the region.
The Jews have no interest in taking some virgin territory in Arizona or Colorado or some place they can create a Jewish state and build another temple and carry on.
They have guns and nukes and the settlers - hundreds of thousands of them are armed to the teeth and they will fight any attempt to remove them.
So the only option left if Palestinians cannot agree to live side by side with Jews in peace and harmony is to encourage them to leave and live in Arab countries.
It may take bloodshed to get them to go but what alternative is there if all other options prove unrealistic?
Egypt should take in the population of Gaza and settle this for once and for all.
I think that is only fair.
If the alternative is bloodshed well then let's go on with it then.
This conflict has gone on for too long.

You are a racist, bigoted, fool.

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:40AM

Tony EH wrote: »

You are a racist, bigoted, fool.

The racist bigoted fools are the Palestinians who freely choose to be smashed to pieces time and again by the IDF when they fire rockets at Israeli citizens.

Tony EH · 15-07-2014 11:42AM

Again, another racist, bigoted post.

old hippy · 15-07-2014 11:45AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

The Palestinians hate Israel and want to destroy and conquer it. They make no secret about their wish to murder all the Jews and to create an Islamic Caliphate.

the Jewish people will kick your ass.

I think you like typing in those claims. However, that still doesn't make them true and just shows everyone here how prejudiced and bigoted you are.

I'm going to ask you yet again; do you know any Palestinians?

davmol · 15-07-2014 11:45AM

[QUOTE=Azwaldo55;91 The Israelis patience is not finite. Firing rockets at them and the Jewish people will kick your ass.[/QUOTE]

you keep mentioning that the jewish people will kick you ass.
When you murdered/attacked palestinians ,you do it with APache helicopters and F-15 jets.Well outof the way of danger to a land that has no form of defence.The 'jewish people' the orthodox jews wont even join your army,they resist it.The Isreali army was defeated in my opinion in their war with Lebanon/Hezbollah.The jews ran as they were sustaining too many casualties and the Israeli public couldnt stomach it.
When Isrealis put up against worthy foe ,i think the IDF woudl crumble.You won the Arab Israeli war only due to back up from teh US.

The IDf is great when fighting long distance against a land with no defence but when soldiers are brought in in close quarter combat,you fold.

Leaving nukes out of it,i think iran woudl destroy Israel in a conventional war.

Azwaldo55 · 15-07-2014 11:52AM

old hippy wrote: »

I think you like typing in those claims. However, that still doesn't make them true and just shows everyone here how prejudiced and bigoted you are.

I'm going to ask you yet again; do you know any Palestinians?

You are in complete denial of reality. The politics, culture and religion of the Palestinians is dominated by hatred of Jews. Utterly and completely.
They have embraced a culture of martyrdom and death and anti-semitism which has led to this endless cycle of misery and squalor.
They know they will have things better if they give up this insanity and live in peace with their Jewish neighbors in love and fellowship and peace which is what Israelis truly want.
They don't want to be forced into bombing Gaza.
But they have chosen "Death To Israel" and "Death To Jews" and as a result their territory is shrinking, they are living like animals in a cage and they continue to fire rockets at Israeli civilians.
They are the authors of their situation but continue to flush their future down the toilet.
So in conclusion.
STOP FIRING ROCKETS AT ISRAEL!

old hippy · 15-07-2014 11:55AM

Azwaldo55 wrote: »

You are in complete denial of reality. The politics, culture and religion of the Palestinians is dominated by hatred of Jews. Utterly and completely.
They have embraced a culture of martyrdom and death and anti-semitism which has led to this endless cycle of misery and squalor.
They know they will have things better if they give up this insanity and live in peace with their Jewish neighbors in love and fellowship and peace which is what Israelis truly want.
They don't want to be forced into bombing Gaza.
But they have chosen "Death To Israel" and "Death To Jews" and as a result their territory is shrinking, they are living like animals in a cage and they continue to fire rockets at Israeli civilians.
They are the authors of their situation but continue to flush their future down the toilet.
So in conclusion.
STOP FIRING ROCKETS AT ISRAEL!

You really are one trick pony. like most people who follow the doctrine of hasbara. And you do follow it, don't you? I've come across similar inane bigotry before and it usually ends in tears.

Can you answer the question? I've asked you half a dozen times now, do you know any Palestinians. And I don't count the racist picture you posted as an answer.

Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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