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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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  • #4652
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I can't see how DCC have when in fact they could have refused all 5, but compromised and licenced 3, then again was amiable to the option of allowing matinee shows, of which Brooks himself mentioned first before hurriedly rowing back on when told he could do that if he wants.

    Did they have a choice about allowing the three?


  • #4653
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Did they have a choice about allowing the three?

    Yes, they could have refused a licence for all 5


  • #4654
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i blame aiken promotions more than anyone, they're the ones who pushed this 5 night madness


  • #4655
    Titzon Toast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    I'm glad this nonsense is finally over. I never want to hear Garth Brooks name again.
    Aiken caused all of this with greed plain and simple.
    Good luck.


  • #4656
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Owen Keegan should be given the freedom of the city. Hero.

    I think €175,000 a year is enough tbh :D


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  • #4657
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Its the knock-on effect is the problem going forward.

    Croke Park / Dublin may be ignored in future .

    Find an ideal venue in the Midlands to suit all , like Semple Stadium .


  • #4658
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    muddypaws wrote: »
    Yes, they could have refused a licence for all 5

    Had the 3 concert quota already been used up?


  • #4659
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They weren't wrong - but I can't see how you can call them right either.

    They looked at two concerts that there was a planning application for, and said "no". They had the power to say "yes" if they had wanted to, but they didn't. They didn't have to, and they... well... didn't.

    They said no for a reason, GB fans may not like or agree with those reasons but they didn't refuse the Monday/Tuesday concerts just to piss people off or stick 2 fingers up to Brooks/Aiken/GAA.


  • #4660
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Classic Irish solution to an Irish problem, let someone else sort it!
    GB did sort it by giving up!

    His share of some €32,000,000 plus all the extras.


  • #4661
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    awec wrote: »
    Why do you think it's ok to see tens of thousands of people out of pocket after a concert is denied.

    Why would it not be better that if a concert is denied, nobody is left out of pocket?

    Your genocide nonsense is deflective nonsense. Answer the questions.

    No body is out of pocket - they can still come to Ireland for a holiday, and they get a refund on the ticket.


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  • #4662
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,247 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Umaro wrote: »
    He could still play 3 gigs and bring happiness to 240,000 concert-goers - instead he is pig-headed and arrogant til the end.

    It'll be a long time before he sells out another stadium in Ireland.

    He'd sell ten next year if ye wanted to and probably will once due process is adhered to.
    We're idiots here and theres plenty that'd still buy tickets for other gigs.


  • #4663
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Had the 3 concert quota already been used up?

    Yeah, One Direction did 3 nights in May :)


  • #4664
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    awec wrote: »
    Why do you think it's ok to see tens of thousands of people out of pocket after a concert is denied.

    Why would it not be better that if a concert is denied, nobody is left out of pocket?

    Your genocide nonsense is deflective nonsense. Answer the questions.

    Why should somebody be out of pocket when they have to pull down a house they have built without planning permission.

    How many tickets are sold can never affect a planning decision...ludicrous.


  • #4665
    Tarzana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They weren't wrong - but I can't see how you can call them right either.

    By... not being wrong? That's generally how being right works.


  • #4666
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭Daith


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Had the 3 concert quota already been used up?

    Yes by One Direction


  • #4667
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    bumper234 wrote: »
    They said no for a reason, GB fans may not like or agree with those reasons but they didn't refuse the Monday/Tuesday concerts just to piss people off or stick 2 fingers up to Brooks/Aiken/GAA.

    The reasons listed were noise, parking and general disturbance.

    Not entirely sure how 3 concerts would fix the above.


  • #4668
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,209 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    What a cluster****.

    Get the Germans back in to run the country. NOW


  • #4669
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,068 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    No body is out of pocket - they can still come to Ireland for a holiday, and they get a refund on the ticket.

    Of course they are out of pocket. They paid to come for a concert and there's no concert. What if they had no interest in a holiday?


  • #4670
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    ebbsy wrote: »
    What a cluster****.

    Get the Germans back in to run the country. NOW

    The people who "run the country" are the only people who did their job in a professional manner.


  • #4671
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Tarzana wrote: »
    By... not being wrong? That's generally how being right works.

    Not wrong ≠ right.

    By wrong I meant obviously "breaking rules".

    The rules stated that the DCC had the power to decide - which is what they did.


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  • #4672
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The reasons listed were noise, parking and general disturbance.

    Not entirely sure how 3 concerts would fix the above.

    3 concerts on the weekend, Monday/Tuesday concerts would have caused mayhem along with the normal.rush hour traffic in that area. Traffic due to gigs in croker can have a knock on affect as far out as Dublin airport and Blanchardstown.


  • #4673
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    bumper234 wrote: »
    They said no for a reason, GB fans may not like or agree with those reasons but they didn't refuse the Monday/Tuesday concerts just to piss people off or stick 2 fingers up to Brooks/Aiken/GAA.

    The only reason being disruption being excessive over 5 nights rather than 3.

    4 was offered by the City Council before 3 was officially announced, So in effect we're down to 1 night being the difference. The decision was made based on falsified objections it must be said.

    In my opinion I believe the decision was made not thinking about the ramifications and this fallout actually happening.

    For the peopel praising the DCC manager,lets see how Owen Keegan handles the housing crisis across Dublin.


  • #4674
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,068 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Why should somebody be out of pocket when they have to pull down a house they have built without planning permission.

    How many tickets are sold can never affect a planning decision...ludicrous.

    That's a pretty terrible analogy. If Aiken is out of pocket then that's one thing, but the people who bought tickets and travel expenses is another.

    I'm not saying the tickets sold or travel costs should have affected the outcome, I am saying there should never have been the situation that people were left with worthless tickets, flights, boats or hotels. That scenario should never be allowed to arise again and I suspect it's something that will be policed more strictly going forward.

    The process right now clearly has holes in it. Hopefully they're plugged.


  • #4675
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    awec wrote: »
    Of course they are out of pocket. They paid to come for a concert and there's no concert. What if they had no interest in a holiday?

    it's an inconvenience, but just cause the concert isn't going ahead doesn't mean they are out of pocket. They get the money for the concert back.


  • #4676
    Kangoo Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Kangoo Man


    The law is an ass, that allows any concert tickets to be sold in Ireland, subject to licence. As Garth Brooks said, the system got some pressure on it and it buckled...


  • #4677
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Between this and one direction splitting up my summer is ruined.


  • #4678
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    Between this and one direction splitting up my summer is ruined.

    aw no, are they all going in different directions?


  • #4679
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    No body is out of pocket - they can still come to Ireland for a holiday, and they get a refund on the ticket.

    A self owned and drove bus driver near my home town is out of pocket by around €3,000. Probably would have paid his insurance for the year in the 24 seater bus too.

    In his 40's, has a family. Not that that makes a difference but there are plenty of small guys losing out here that wont be told.


  • #4680
    Tarzana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Not wrong ≠ right.

    By wrong I meant obviously "breaking rules".

    The rules stated that the DCC had the power to decide - which is what they did.

    So what's the issue?


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  • #4681
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭Daith


    Kangoo Man wrote: »
    The law is an ass, that allows any concert tickets to be sold in Ireland, subject to licence. As Garth Brooks said, the system got some pressure on it and it buckled...

    No no, Garth was the one who wanted to put pressure on the system and it didn't buckle.


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