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More 15 year old boys have smartphones than live with father

  • 13-07-2014 07:27PM
    #1
    MakeEmLaugh
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    Think tank the Centre for Social Justice has revealed that 62% of 15 year old boys in the UK have smartphones, whereas only 57% live with their father.

    A rather shocking statistic, no?


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  • #2
    Nodin
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    It strikes me as a meaningless comparsion.


  • #3
    Muise...
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    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    Think tank the Centre for Social Justice has revealed that 62% of 15 year old boys in the UK have smartphones, whereas only 57% live with their father.

    A rather shocking statistic, no?

    Well, at least they can ring him.


  • #4
    kumate_champ07
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    what does it mean tho, do only 43% live with their mother?


  • #5
    Wacker The Attacker
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    That's a serious amount of potential chavvage


  • #6
    kumate_champ07
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    Irish people eat more pasta than Italians


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  • #7
    Macavity.
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    The smartphone statistic is fairly insignificant but only 57% living with their Father is kinda sad. :(


  • #8
    efb
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    That's the UK. Relevance to Irl?


  • #9
    looksee
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    Whatever about the smartphones, its a bit difficult to accept that only 57% live with their father. One in every two (more or less) teenage boys do not have a father in their lives? In order to account for the huge numbers of stable families, there must be whole estates with no men on them?

    Though reading it again, the 57% figure is a prediction for 2020. Right. What's on the telly.


  • #10
    Nodin
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    Macavity. wrote: »
    The smartphone statistic is fairly insignificant but 57% not living with their Father is kinda sad. :(

    57% living with.


  • #11
    Macavity.
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    Nodin wrote: »
    57% living with.

    Oh I guess that's not so bad. :pac:


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  • #12
    stevedublin
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    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    that 62% of 15 year old boys in the UK have smartphones
    not shocking - they are not that expensive, many given for free by mobile phone operators when you sign up for a price plan
    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    whereas only 57% live with their father.
    sounds shocking - cannot be a good thing


  • #13
    Nodin
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    looksee wrote: »
    Whatever about the smartphones, its a bit difficult to accept that only 57% live with their father. One in every two (more or less) teenage boys do not have a father in their lives? In order to account for the huge numbers of stable families, there must be whole estates with no men on them?


    Ahhh, but that presumes that the absence of the father correlates to the absence of any male in the domestic life of the child, which may not be the case.


  • #14
    Fr_Dougal
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    efb wrote: »
    That's the UK. Relevance to Irl?

    About 5 years.


  • #15
    Nodin
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    Macavity. wrote: »
    Oh I guess that's not so bad. :pac:


    Well you'd have to weigh up the reasons why. I mean people can stay together in some form of mutual loathing relationship for the 'sake of the children', but I can't say it would be too pleasant.


  • #16
    NegativeCreep
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    I thought way more than 62% of them would have smartphones! Who doesn't have a smartphone in this day and age?


  • #17
    darkpagandeath
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    100% of that demographic wear footwear on a regular basis. Or consume food, or bathe.


  • #18
    looksee
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Ahhh, but that presumes that the absence of the father correlates to the absence of any male in the domestic life of the child, which may not be the case.


    True, but I still think its a makey-up statistic. Anyone can say 'this will be happening in (random date in future)'. By the time it is disproved they will have made their few bob from the research and moved on.


  • #19
    allym
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    Not living with them doesn't necessarily mean their fathers are not a part of their lives. Plenty of people don't live with one of their parents but still have a perfectly good relationship with them


  • #20
    MakeEmLaugh
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    efb wrote: »
    That's the UK. Relevance to Irl?

    Some people are interested in what happens outside of Ireland. You know, the ones who completed secondary school and read newspapers?

    But, if that isn't enough motivation for you... The UK is the only country with which the Republic of Ireland shares a border.

    Also, Britain (excluding Northern Ireland) has the highest number of Irish-born people living in it outside of Ireland. 869,093 at the last count (that's about 19% of the population of the Republic of Ireland).


  • #21
    Nodin
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    looksee wrote: »
    True, but I still think its a makey-up statistic. Anyone can say 'this will be happening in (random date in future)'. By the time it is disproved they will have made their few bob from the research and moved on.


    In that sense yeah, maybe.


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  • #22
    Nodin
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    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    I thought way more than 62% of them would have smartphones! Who doesn't have a smartphone in this day and age?

    Me.


  • #23
    mfceiling
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    Anyone read that and not give a shít...


  • #24
    GalwayGuy2
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Ahhh, but that presumes that the absence of the father correlates to the absence of any male in the domestic life of the child, which may not be the case.


    I guess it depends on the UK. But, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Ireland, the main replacement for a father figure would be a grandfather?

    Also, having a smartphones fairly important. Porn Remain in contact, send out job interviews, search for bus schedules, so on and so forth.

    It's probably more important for idiot fifteen year olds to have them.


  • #25
    Nodin
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    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    I guess it depends on the UK. But, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Ireland, the main replacement for a father figure would be a grandfather? .

    ....or maybe the boyfriend of the mother, the new husband of the mother.
    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    Also, having a smartphones fairly important. Porn Remain in contact, send out job interviews, search for bus schedules, so on and so forth.

    It's probably more important for idiot fifteen year olds to have them.

    And take pictures of your own ass. Very important that.


  • #26
    oldyouth
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    allym wrote: »
    Not living with them doesn't necessarily mean their fathers are not a part of their lives. Plenty of people don't live with one of their parents but still have a perfectly good relationship with them

    I think the point is that most people consider it is better to be living happily with 2 parents rather than living happily with 1 parent.


  • #27
    893bet
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    what does it mean tho, do only 43% live with their mother?

    No it doesn't. That 57 percent would include single father familes and mother/father families. It wouldnt include single mother families.


  • #28
    darkpagandeath
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    oldyouth wrote: »
    I think the point is that most people consider it is better to be living happily with 2 parents rather than living happily with 1 parent.

    Pretty modern concept, Having 2 parents alive is a pretty modern thing due to medical care and such. Used to be a lot different in the past. A lot of women died giving birth.


  • #29
    Mr E
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    62% of 15 year old boys in the UK have smartphones, whereas only 57% like bananas.


  • #30
    hatrickpatrick
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    Title should have specified that we were talking about the UK. No offence intended, but socially the UK seems f*cked, and has been for a long time.


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  • #31
    hatrickpatrick
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    oldyouth wrote: »
    I think the point is that most people consider it is better to be living happily with 2 parents rather than living happily with 1 parent.

    However, living happily with one parent is surely better than living miserably with two?
    That's one thing I've never understood about the whole "staying together for the sake of the kids" argument - growing up amongst warring, depressed and angry parents is surely far more damaging to the young psyche?


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